Hi Veeky Forums. I've been trying to kick bad habits for over 2 years and so far I have stopped smoking, cigarettes...

Hi Veeky Forums. I've been trying to kick bad habits for over 2 years and so far I have stopped smoking, cigarettes, marijuana, stopped drinking, started eating healthy and started working out. The only thing I can't get a grip on is my addiction to pornography. Every relapse, I would say that it's the last time and I would go without it for a couple of days but as soon as the imagery floods my mind I lose control as if it is another person taking control of my mind. Has anyone overcome this addiction? I believe my life would be infinite times better without porn in it. Please give suggestions. No meme answers, please. Thanks!!

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I have the same problem society needs to go all out and go to war with Porn and expose the danger too. Honestly what made the battle easier for me was finding Christ.

Good luck to you

It is promoted by literally everyone user and as a result, everything has been sexualized.

Stoicism helped me combat porn addiction OP. Look into it.

This is my biggest addiction too. I think it is because it is free and society has become so sexualized that it is impossible to fully quarantine yourself from pornographic images.

It would be like trying to kick heroin if it was free and advertised on television.

>mfw as soon as I quit porn and regular fapping I go all premature ejaculation

Anybody know how to fix that? It's the only thing stopping me

Any book recommendation? Other than meditations, I mean.

We are all our own worst enemies. To overcome yourself, you must even kill that which you love. Have you ever been a villain to yourself? When you see the villainy of the self rear its ugly head, you must kill it. You must burn the heretic down, and only then can you be reborn like the phoenix and rise from the ashes.

Some things to consider:

Why is porn so readily available free?

Why does it rank among the top data usage on the internet?

Why are you watching a video of two people engaging in sex as if it's normal?

Corporate porn jews have poisoned your mind and conditioned you to sit alone in your room and click on your computer for sexual stimulation while Chad goes out to win the affection of real women and insert his penis in them to make them cum weak-kneed trembling orgasms. Stay woke.

what is this from?

7 days in

an interpretation of Thus Spoke Zarathustra

>mfw 7 days without porn was almost 10 years ago

I couldn't quit porn until I told my girlfriend how bad the problem was. it was one of the most embarrassing and humiliating experiences of my life. if you put yourself through the same, you'll stop.

>Thus Spoke Zarathustra
i've been meaning to read that

me too I think
I relapse often but I get further and further each time

>Why does it rank among the top data usage on the internet?
because humans evolved to want to fuck and see boobies
>Why is porn so readily available free?
because people will get it free anyway, by pirating it, or by starting a site that just copies paid videos. They make money off ads
>you to sit alone in your room and click on your computer for sexual stimulation while Chad goes out to win the affection of real women and insert his penis in them
So in other words Chad wastes all his time chasing after women, while I get something almost as good for 0% the cost and 10% of the time investment

I mean I agree it's psychologically unhealthy, especially since it makes people develop more and more degenerate fetishes until they start watching sissy hypno shit and turn into trannies. But I don't think it's a conspiracy and I don't think masturbation or normal non-fetish porn is all that bad for you

t. on nofap, while on trenbaloney, trying to resist my urge to watch porn right now

>trenbaloney
kek i thought this was a supplement and searched for it on amazon until it hit me

get a porn blocker plugin for your browser, and when you type in the password just smash your keyboard


alkshdfpaosidfj;salfasf

bam.

any idea how to block it in android?

This. DOES. Not. Work.

You will just find ways to get rid of the blocker and vow to never put a blocker.

What you need to do is say you are not the kind of person who look at porn. A tool won't do the work for you.

IMHO:

There's nothing inherently wrong with porn, by itself, nor is there anything inherently wrong with masturbation, by itself. Together and done frequently, that seems to be the problem.

It is natural to want to look at porn because we all want to see attractive people. That's just facts. Masturbation is also natural as a form of sexual release, which is important since our bodies naturally crave it. However, when you masturbate to porn, it's no longer just sexual release: the "high" from masturbating to porn is only slightly worse than the high from sex itself. If you get too used to it, it will 1) make sex less satisfying and 2) make masturbating to porn more of a priority, since it's so easy to do and easy to get more "extreme" versions of (that is, more extreme porn or more extreme masturbation aids).

Ultimately, I'd just stick to the mantra of "don't get easy highs". I'm more lax when it comes to attractive (naked) women, since it could be argued that we'd see attractive women all the time if we lived in an ancient tropical nudist society (and I'm at the point where a sexy picture is no longer a fap trigger). But masturbation and masturbation to porn are easy highs, and you could honestly be doing better things than them. So I just avoid doing them.

a blocker is a reminder you faggot

that's like saying nicorette doesn't work for smoking

i'm sure they have something in the app store

>marijuana
>bad habit

Dumb /pol/ poster.

>don't get easy highs
That an interesting take on it. Also masturbation without porn doesnt fill me with some sort of regret after.

I smoke weed everyday and am from pol, maybe you should be less of a whining pussy

I don't know about you but weed made me really lethargic. Also gained a lot of weight from all the binge eating when high.

D O P A M I N E

Your brain is craving the usual dopamine spike from porn. The method is the same from how you stopped smoking and overeating. THe brain needs to reuptake on dopamine, just say no. It willl beg you to reuptake because you made it get used to that elevated baseline of dopamine.

From now on only get natural dopamine highs liek from exercise or accomplishing things or holding a girl's hand or whatever.

>just say no
when i dont watch it for a few days i feel this sense of dread like an existential crisis and relapse

>From now on only get natural dopamine highs liek from exercise or accomplishing things or holding a girl's hand or whatever.
why are those dopamine highs "good" while fapping dopamine highs are "bad"? what's the difference?

>brain constantly got candy
>candy is withdrawn
>brain craves
>brain begs
>brain starts to sulk

You're paying for all those years of elevated dopamine. Bear it now. It's like losing weight right? All those years of accumulated weight won't magically come off.

It ain't gonna be easy but I suggest you supplement your dopamine reuptake with natural highs. I like meditation and skipping rope.

>I suggest you supplement your dopamine reuptake with natural highs
i already exercise and read desu. but baka brain takes me back to porn.

From the brain's perspective, it's all the same.

It's just that there are healthier means to get dopamine. Watching porn and fapping is NOT inherently bad, it's when you overdo it and get addicted to it that makes it a bad habit.

Besides the addiction part, porn is known to rewire your brain and make you inclined to be socially anxious and even trigger porn induced ED. Weight the pro's and con's.

A benefit is that sexual libido can be assuaged when you need to be focused or not distracted by every skirt and tail you see. Also it's also a form of stress relief, but I really don't advise using it as the main way of relieving stress.

Well, you've already quit smoking ciggies, it's the same ordeal. The longer you go without it, the more it gets easier.

That said, do you have a sexual outlet like a GF? Sexual energy needs to be released and not suppressed.

kek i just installed a porn blocker and it blocked Veeky Forums

>GF
Where u think u are ?

>GF

>get addicted to it
"porn addiction" is not officially recognized. it has been suggested many times, but turned down due to lacking evidence.
>porn is known to rewire your brain and make you inclined to be socially anxious and even trigger porn induced ED
no, it's not "known" to do that. weirdos on the internet (like yourbrainonporn.com) say it will do that, but where's the actual science?

>porn kills love
>what is love?
youtube.com/watch?v=Pe5q_TdKbsk

And thus we get the typical lines of unsubstantiated broscience blaming videos on the internet for their own lack of ambition or drive when really they're just shitty, lazy people

>even trigger porn induced ED
"CONCLUSION:

We found little evidence of the association between pornography use and male sexual health disturbances. Contrary to raising public concerns, pornography does not seem to be a significant risk factor for younger men's desire, erectile, or orgasmic difficulties."
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25816904

I spend hours on the internet watching porn which i could put into something productive. I have no problem with drive or ambition. It because that im ambitous that i wanna be rid of porn

Hardly scientific but
>globalnews.ca/news/1232726/porn-causing-erectile-dysfunction-in-young-men/


>"porn addiction" is not officially recognized
It may not be an offficial medical term but you're addicted when you can't live without, or you do it at least once everyday. To the point where you'd forgoe interaction with women for masturabation. That's addicted to me. You get your fix from that source instead of actually ejaculating inside a vagina.

i tried to quit. then i started fucking hookers, now im addicted to that.

i wish i were joking.

Thankfully, hookers disgust me so no worry there

Love is for faggits

lol just stop being addicted. it's not hard u dip.

Good goy

If you weren't looking at porn you would be playing videogames or watching TV or napping. You aren't addicted, you're fucking lazy, and wishing otherwise doesn't change it

>No meme answers, please. Thanks!!

Quit putting pussy on a pedestal you fucking moron. Not even girls want you to do that

Shut up you worthless ledditor

edging and kegels

i watch it at night user

Thats the thing, you get off to the thrill rush/degradation of the woman.

I can go on tinder and pull a solid 7-8 and fuck her within 2 dates, but id rather go on backpage and find a 3/10 and fuck her because of the thrill rush of not knowing if I will be robbed/killed/raped as well as humiliating a woman for mere change.

Its really fucked up.

>Quit putting pussy on a pedestal you fucking moron.
>implying

Do you actually prefer your hand over a tight wet vagine?

So you're telling me you have a real job, and probably lift, yeah? Then who gives a shit what else you do with your time. How much more productive do you want to be?

Get laid regularly or cancel your internet

Of course not, but the difference is much more marginal then you imply, at enously greater expense and effort

>Christ
Lmao

Not him, but "The Emperor's Handbook" translation is my favorite for Aurelius. Additionally look up Seneca's "Letters from a Stoic"

maybe you are right user. thanks for the help.

will check it out. thanks.

Seriously lad, stop stressing about it. It isn't that big of a deal. Just do shit to occupy your mind, and go out and fucking talk to people. Even if you don't have any friends, if you look semi decent just go up to someone walking the same direction as you and say "Hi I'm user what's your name?". Seriously lad once I started hanging out with friends more I stopped porn completely. Still beat your dick tho, at least once a week. Trust me, if you go too long without a solid fap, the lights start to go out. Use it or lose it.

Don't get rid of it, replace it with something better.
Sexuality is natural. Abusing sexuality is not.
Be at peace with your sexual feelings.
I find fantasies help a lot, as does erotic literature and so on, which is generally regarded as less exploitative and smutty, and downright artistic/tasteful.
inb4 hentai is art

Why would it be the most embarassing experience of your life?

Alright, i will try my best user. Although i dont know if the talking to people thing will work, i am autistic as fuck

t. addict in denial

>if you put yourself through the same, you'll stop.
i dont know about this user. what would your girlfriend think?

>finding Christ
That is theologically incorrect

Basically you cuck yourself by watching another guy fucking a women in front of you. Do you want to be a cuck?

That mindset helped me nearly instantly.

don't you view yourself in the place of the guy?

>€v¶h0r1¢

The funniest is that everytime I fuck a whore I loose interest in porn immediately and don't feel the need to watch and fap at all for a good month.

>unironically /pol/posting
Oh my

I put my crucifix in my usual porn watching spot. The next relapse i moved rooms. I can feel god and satan fighting in my head. Pray for me please.

porn itself isn't bad.

i used to be looking through 20-30 different hardcore videos just to find the one that stimulates me the visually the most. nedless to say that fucked me up real good and it took me months to actually successfully fuck my gf. the sensation could be best described as a sort of a sensory overload, your brain feels like it's on the verge of cumming, but your dick never getting hard enough, making it kinda impossible in the first place.

i've moved on to somewhat more softcore kind of stuff. fb/ig fap threads on /b/ helped the transition. even the same hardcore vids i used to watch, except focusing more on the "boring" undressing parts in the beginning and not jumping from one scene/video to another. amateur POV type of thing is fine too. the key is to not overload your brain with visual stimuli.

another thing is to find your rhythm. for example, if day 0 is my no-fap day, sex/fapping on day 1 will be not so great, but if i fuck again on day 2 it will be particularly great.

Whenever I try not to masturbate I start having depression and start questioning my sad life.

Went about 7 months once. Thought I was done for good but then I just relapsed again. Haven't be able to shake it properly since then. So far I'm on about 1 week. Hoping to get to the 90 day mark again. After that it became so much easier. At the end of the day even if I keep trying and never succeed it's better than just giving in and going back to porn everyday. I've also noticed that in benefit is that vanilla porn works on me again. Before I had to watch some degrading shit.
TL;DR just keep trying because even if you relapse you still end up watching less porn and that's half the battle.

>Did go 6 weeks without porn
>relapsed hard yesterday
>after the first time thought the streak is broken anyway
>jerked off 5 times to porn in the last 24 hours

goddammit, I hate myself and my weak will

>watch porn almost daily
>jerk off almost daily
>still fuck my girlfriend almost daily no problems

if you can't do this, get your t levels tested or be more active

>almost daily
read the post above you to get a feel of what's actually going on in this thread

>I'm not a cuck cos while I watched a guy fuck my wife I was pretending to be him.

She's not my wife.
And since im not gay, im not "watching a guy fuck", im watching the girl.
You sound like those guys that play females characters in MMOs because they "dont want to stare at a man's ass all the time", flash news if the cuck thing pops in your head while watching porn it probably means you are a closeted cuck.

I used to get anxiety thinking about death and my own mortality and occasionally had panic attacks. Then I started getting laid more regularly and they subsided and then I settled down and got married and I haven't had any panic attacks at all since finding out my wife is pregnant.

great goy

love is a lie. don't let anyone else live your life.

With softcore fb/ig pics I imagine super fucked up stuff to make the tame image sexier. I don't know if thats good or bad.

that's precisely the point. when you're overloading your brain with dozens of hardcore clips, your brain doesn't even get the chance to imagine anything. and when you go back to softcore, you don't get anywhere near the same arousal because your brain is way too used to hardcore bombardment by that point. not leaving room for imagination is exactly where the problem lies.

>What you need to do is say you are not the kind of person who look at porn.
THIS. you need to talk about it to someone to put it in perspective

Can going cold turkey on porn cause psychosis? I read this weird story that made me stop all of a sudden 3 weeks ago, and now im super paranoid, jumpy, etc.

That actually helps, thanks user.

I found transitioning to written stuff helped a lot. Just as much variety bit forced me to use my brain more.

literotica helped a lot.

Just one vice? Don't beat yourself up. Most people have way more than that, if they're honest with themselves. If it doesn't interfere with your relationship(s), no big deal.

r/nofap (unironically)

"I didn't come this far to only come this far."

what a goy!

>Why is porn so readily available free?

>Corporate porn jews have poisoned your mind and conditioned you

youtube.com/watch?v=8XkrZPZI2uU

This is unironically what i did. I put k9 web protection in my browser, managed to enter a random password, deleted the email address associated with it, and got rid of my smartphone.

>Stoicism
I'm a Stoic myself. Can I ask what specific attitudes you've inherited from Stoicism that have empowered you to resist porn?

If she can't accept your demons, she is not the one for you.