/mag/ Martial Arts General

>Jiu Jitsu and some striking
>push-ups, sit-ups, dips, dumbbell work, chin ups, suicides, burpees
>not long distance running :(
>haven't competed but I just won an unofficial grappling match against a 230lb powerlifter
>short term goals are to cut down 10lbs of fat and find someone who doesn't mind sparring with grappling and striking simultaneously
>long term goals are to compete in a Jiu Jitsu tournament next summer and eventually amateur MMA
>dream is to fight professionally
I'm 18 and I started doing Jiu Jitsu at 17 so I think I'm off to a good start as a fighter

fine
out of the 3 what should i just do then

What are you looking to get out of it?

My friends are shit stirrers so if they get in a fight i probably have to jump in and i want to end the fights quick with minimal risk to both me and the guy i fight

Boxing or MT as they're more strike focused, really just floor a fucker with a hook and the rest back off.

k
now do you know any good boxing or MT gyms in the Manhattan area

>>What art are you training in?
Judo
>>What does your workout look like?
2 days of barbell push days (bench, ohp, squats)
2 days of pulls (deadlift, shrugs, barbell rows, pullups)
2 days judo
2 days rowing
>>Are you running?
Nope, rowing for pulls
>>What's your record like?
I'm a noob
>>You are running, right?
ROWING
>>What is your goal?
Eventually get a good grip on Judo, Muay Thai, and BJJ and start mma for fun/self-improvement

>tfw no sambo instructors near you

No, but google is just a click away

Its really just Judo with striking and wrestling. Heres a good alternative for you:
>learn Judo
>learn freestyle wrestling
>read some books and internet tutorials on sambo exclusive techniques and try practicing them with sparring partners

>not em but
Look for a gym with pro fighters, doesn't have to be world champs, some competitive fighters.
>sityodtong boston

i was thinking of going to a ghetto boxing gym for that hardcore training or something

Boxing or Muay Thai for sure. You can get away with boxing because you can win a street fight by just using your fists. Muay Thai would be cool if you want to also learn how to throw elbows and kicks and knees. Research the sports and see which one you like more. Research gyms in your area and see which ones are the real deal.

Hey so I want to pick up muay Thai and I've been working out since June however it's just been cardio and body weight stuff, is 120$ a month a good price for a gym? I'm really thinking about it and the gym itself seems solid. Im going to sign up for a free week and see if I like it. What are some red flags?

Alot of that 'hardcore' training is just ghetto crossfit.

How many days a week are lessons?

Where i am lessons for twice a week are $90. But here, CA, is flooded with muay thai and mma cuz chuck lidell is from this city.

WHAT TO LOOK FOR IN A MARTIAL ARTS GYM:
•Physically conditioned, fit participants
•Trainer with certified professional record and a training history with at least one athlete who competes successfully
•Sparring, "aliveness" in training
•At least one participant competes at amateur or professional level
•Physical conditioning part of training

WHAT TO BE WARY OF:
•Fat, physically subpar students and instructor
•Graduation fees (e.g. "pay $200 and advance to next belt extra quick!")
•No proven athletes training there
•No sparring, moves shown are choreographed (e.g. "the attacker does this, then I do this, then you do this...")
•Cult-like atmosphere
•No physical conditioning

oh
well shit

>"combative or commando" in the name
>any camouflage anywhere in the gym
>little to no sparring

what is the best martial arts that would be good for weight loss? I want to buy a bag, gloves, and other equipment. I have MS, so I'm confined to exercising in the house or yard as I can not drive to walk far from my home.

okay so i found this mauy thai place relatively near my college
teamcoban.com/
Is it good? the guy was a pro

Don't let that user mislead you, a lot of "crossfit" stuff has been part of boxing training since forever.

>What art are you training in?
Jujitsu, Muay thai, kali, glock others also, seminars or trial classes
>What does your workout look like?
Shadow kata training for each art, along with strenght and cardio.
>Are you running?
Yes
>What's your record like?
0
>You are running, right?
Yes
>What is your goal?
To be the hardest person anyone or anything trys to kill.

Competetion also
Oh, and teach kids martial arts when I am older.

Making this part of the sticky desu

Now that you mention it, it does look very relative to Judo.

Its already part of /asp/'s martial arts general sticky, heres the full thing:

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Find an MMA Gym in the USA:findmmagym.com/

Styles of fighting:
ufc.com/discover/fighter/martialArtsStyles

BlackBeltWiki, great source of info, trivia and help:
blackbeltwiki.com/

Lifting for MMA:
breakingmuscle.com/strength-conditioning/how-to-train-strength-and-conditioning-for-mma

Beware the MCDOJOS:
mcdojo-faq.tripod.com

WHAT TO LOOK FOR IN A MARTIAL ARTS GYM:
•Physically conditioned, fit participants
•Trainer with certified professional record and a training history with at least one athlete who competes successfully
•Sparring, "aliveness" in training
•At least one participant competes at amateur or professional level
•Physical conditioning part of training

WHAT TO BE WARY OF:
•Fat, physically subpar students and instructor
•Graduation fees (e.g. "pay $200 and advance to next belt extra quick!")
•No proven athletes training there
•No sparring, moves shown are choreographed (e.g. "the attacker does this, then I do this, then you do this...")
•Cult-like atmosphere
•No physical conditioning

>YOUTUBE CHANNELS ON FIGHTING
youtube.com/user/LawrenceKenshin
youtube.com/channel/UCVfmHpXONv-LVACBV68tq5Q
youtube.com/channel/UCl3zMJRgefZm7ELHkIp-xDA
youtube.com/user/GracieBreakdown
youtube.com/user/StephanKesting
youtube.com/user/theKravMagaTraining
youtube.com/user/CombatSportsTapes

Sparring is definitely vital. Also an instructor that will go out of his way if you show sincere interest. My first lesson went way off track because i kept asking questions (there were only two people attending that day cuz holiday week) but i learned a shit ton. Every lesson includes about 1/3 of the time for sparring.

maybe because it literally derived from judo 0.o ever think bou dat!

One of the pioneers of sambo trained under the founder of judo.

fuck, I just want this dude to be healthy....

what a beast.

Hmm, never really thought much about it outside of it being a martial art Russians do. To be fair when I watch Khabib use Sambo in the UFC it doesn't seem very Judo like.

Alot of the classical throws only work with gi's.
All the trips and 90% of throws does work with a slight grip change.

will post some boxers highlights who i rate

Harold Johnson -youtube.com/watch?v=lA2bl81tDpI

Floyd Patterson-youtube.com/watch?v=o1Pq6RmpgaA

Sugar Ramos-youtube.com/watch?v=YYchfcYNLDY

Fighting Harada - youtube.com/watch?v=-9AiV_2rumw

Dwight Qawi- youtube.com/watch?v=sKFuuR6Agp8

Julian Jackson-youtube.com/watch?v=2emS52tdINY

>not calling the general '/maga/ - Martial arts general again' after the first thread
you had one fucking job

This I know. When I do no-gi in class I try to figure out how I can sneak in throws I could do with gi by changing the grips around.

I usually just end up shooting for a leg though.

Id fuck the guy in short shorts so hard, no homo

>>What art are you training in?
BJJ
>>What does your workout look like?
BJJ M-Thr 7-830, Sat 11-1
Lifting Sun Tu Thr
>>Are you running?
No
>>What's your record like?
First Comp in 5 weeks
>>You are running, right?
Fuck running swimming is better
>>What is your goal?
Competition

>What are you training in?
Wrestling
>What does your workout look like?
Currently nothing but about to start cross country
>Are you running?
Not recently, forgive me, user
>What's your record like?
8:4 I think not good but not bad either. I'm JV.
>You're running, right?
You're making me feel bad but no
>What's your goal?
To varsity and place in districts. 5'6 manlet, 165lbs now but 159-161 lbs in season. (In HS with 4 others in same division)

Do you cut to 152 during season?

No, friend but that's a good thought I've had been thinking for a while.

did he dieded?

Probably boxing

Modern points judo (ippon)?

Yeah man.
I haven't competed since i was a yellow.

Just practice sprints or get better friends. Street fights are a good way to get stabbed or end up in jail..

>What art are you training in?
kickboxing
>What does your workout look like?
tuesday & thursday - technical training, sparring
other days - lifting, cardio, stretching
>Are you running?
long distance rarely, I prefer sprints and jumprope
>What's your record like?
newbie
>You are running, right?
see above
>What is your goal?
win a championship, even if it's a small one

Most of the traditional throws that rely on lapel grip can be done with a wizard grip. In general, you just have to get super good at your kuzushi and learn not to rely on muscling through with the grip.

Right on. Just go for it. Start competing again. It's super fun. What's your tokui waza?

ko soto gake.
I do it from the side.
I can never get any hip throws, i have a pretty decent morote seoi nage but i can't find when we spar.

Thinking about starting up Muay Thai and Kendo, thoughts?

no hes Jersey Joe Walcott boxers here should look him up if they havent already the man was way ahead of his time

Sweet. Yeah, I can never seem to get a hip throw off. People just block my hips or lock me out with their arms. I need to practice my kuzushi/entry and hip/foot speed. I mostly just fake osoto gari to try to land sasai tsuri komi ashi.

Just go for sasai tsuri komi ashi right of the bat.
You can sometimes get it.
I don't feel comfortable twisting and turning into throws.

You box in the morning + jits in the evening or?

Most of the week I try to do BJJ class and heavy bag work after. One day of the week we have no-gi and sparring for boxing right afterwards.

Depending on how fatigued I get I might do two days lifting, three days training or vice versa

does training with an MMA group instead of specific martial arts make sense?
I don't want to be that Russian powerlifter guy so I'm thinking about learning some fighting skills but I live in a small town and the only martial arts avaliable are karate, krav maga and mma. there's boxing and bjj in nearby towns (but I don't have a car)

You don't want to use your fists in a street fight. You can easily break your hand. Most of your striking should be done with your elbows and knees.

American education. This is all bullshit.

t. learned from a Tokyo ex-SWAT guy, an ex-national trainer from China, a Black Belt hall of famer, a Karate EU champ, a Bavarian vice champ in Boxing etc.

What you want to look for:
Can they beat you easily in a match?
What you want to be wary of:
Are they afraid of fighting?

>What art are you training in?
Dutch style kickboxing
>What does your workout look like?
Plyometrics, full body lifting, running 3 days a week
Kickboxing classes 2 times a week, involves physical conditioning, some sparring, learning combos, ab work etc.
Bag training 1 or 2 times a week, focusing more on technique
>Are you running?
Yes about 4 days a week for 20-30 minutes at the highest speed I can handle for that time
>What's your record like?
Haven't done actual fights yet, I'm a newbie
>You are running, right?
Yes sir
>What is your goal?
Get into amateur fights, maybe if I get really good go pro. Would like to eventually transition to MMA.

All of that is pretty much covered in that list there.

>Can they beat you easily
Training record and history
>Are they afraid of fighting
Sparring

What does any of that have to do with being American anyways?