Substances to relax?

Using xanax to escape your problems is a really dangerous road to go on OP

Dont do it

Kratum. Doesn't get you high, literally just relaxes you.

This. Just be aware of it interacting with prescription anti-depressants.

Also the longer you go without alcohol (100%) the easier it will become to relax without it. When you first quit, it seems utterly impossible. A year later you'll be a completely different person, and realize you never were really relaxed when you were a drunk.

This. It's pretty much just water anyway.

Krokodil

not OP but i have some xanax's laying around that i got from my buddy. i'm pretty much an alcoholic so right now i'm debating if i should switch one for the other

does xanax really make you black out?

codeine

Thought that was a meme?

doesn't make you black out. don't take it for extended periods of time. I was on xanax and then valium for a couple of years. my short term memory is permanently fucked even though I'm off it now. the withdrawals are absolutely insane too.

>the withdrawals are absolutely insane too.

tell me more user.

Xanax is probably one of the most dangerous drugs you could be legally prescribed in the US. I've gotten off Adderall and Ritalin after taking them for years, and it wasn't anything like the hell I went through getting off Xanax.

Cardio

It's like an invisible demon is standing behind you with a taser, and they zap you in the back of the neck at random intervals whenever you start to relax.

Stay far far away from xanax, it's extremely addicting
First time I tried it I barely made it home, nearly laid down and slept leaving the mall. I decided to use it as a sleep aid, two weeks in I started getting crazy anxiety and trembling later in the day, turns out xanax has a 12 hour half life and I was already addicted and getting withdrawal symptoms. I read online the longer you stay on then the worse it gets including seizures for some people. Into the trash those fuckers went with a quickness

shieeeeet. looks like im sticking to drinking

i do have access to valium as well, and i did try one once. fucking slept like a goddamn baby. hhmmmm......

Fucking this

OP here, I appreciate the help but I got too many buddies that have lost their livelihood after being prescribed Xanax. It's not an aspirin, you will get addicted so be careful with that shit.

I'm just trying to relax after my commute and 12hr shift, I can be random tested at this factory so I can't be on drugs and booze fucks with my gut if I enjoy it too often.

Google search about people trying to stop xanax after YEARS of addiction, literally takes them 6-8 months of slowly tapering down

What you can do instead is try phenibut and adrinifil, both are legal without script. Take 1000mg phen and 300mg adrinafil maybe once a week and you should feel amazing. They are synergetic but if you take phenibut too often you build tolerance up quickly, also neither are addicting

Also important to note that drinking alcohol or taking benzos with phenibut will kill you.

How much alcohol?

I've learned to do neither. I don't smoke or drink anymore.

Get over your need to escape.

tobacco; dip, cigs, or vape or some shit

microdosing on LSD

>alcohol will kill you
Let me guess, you worry about cancer when someone mentions meat

Get the fuck out of here boy

kava

I don't think anyone is really sure. You'd probably survive a couple beers but it's best just to abstain.
try rereading the post, bud

How do I get rid off the dark circles under my eyes?

nonsense. it does make alcohol significantly more potent, but it won't kill you

Valerian root.

Eckhart Tolle

Taurine.
No fucking about, it's put in caffeine drinks to stop shakes.
High enough dose will help you relax and stop anxiety.

Surprisingly worked for me

Phenibut
Codeine
Kratom
Weed

There are a lot of options

>Hipster roommate swears by kratom, likes it better than his vape, pot and alcohol
>Tried a standard dose that works for him and didn't do shit for me, I weigh less too
>Tried a 2.5 dose, but took it in a dry tbsp instead of water mix
Big mistake. It was like trying the cinnamon challenge with dirt-flavored sawdust. Ended up getting a super dizzy spell, and soon nausuea caused me to violently puke my guts up.
>Got better by eating good food and smoking some herb

Fuck kratom. I've heard it's an addictive opioid-like drug as well

Lemon Balm, buy a plant or two from a nursery. When you need to chill just take 3 leaves and chew. It works.

White pine tea is nice

It's because both substances act on GABA receptors. You won't die, but one will potentiate the other so just be careful.

Meditation

drinking, xanax and phenibut have the same (potentially lethal) withdrawals as they all have similar MOA. drinking is the most damaging to your health out of the 3.

dude everyone drinks with phenibut and no one died

Smoke a pipe or cigars. 2/day gives you an overall 2% increase in likelihood of death. Keep yourself to one or two a week and odds are excellent that something else is going to get you.

Phenibut isn't addicting and has no withdrawals. I've used it on and off for two years, usually once a week on a Saturday but many times I've gone without touching it for months at a time. Stop spreading disinfo

you are retarddd

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3604470/
>However, the patient developed not only signs and symptoms of phenibut withdrawal,5 but also other features of DSM-IV substance dependence, including an inability to stop using phenibut on his own.

Maybe I should stop taking it daily...
>8g
Oh never mind, I'm not going to get that bad

I wouldn't recommend Xanax or anything like some of the other anons are suggesting. Stay far away from that shit. I guess maybe look into Kratom or kava or something. Also magnesium and ashwaghanda help with anxiety. You have to take them regularly for them to be effective though.

Heroin

Phenibut is GOAT. If used responsibly makes you feel amazing, no comedown either. Legal too.

Unironically this

Stops working at about year four though

This. Completely legal in USA, bulk powder cheap and easily available online, zones you out, helped me break my insomnia.

Only downside is it tastes pretty bad so you have to gulp it down and move on, its not something you can sip on and enjoy but its no big deal as long as you're not a pussy.

Porn and fapping

acrobolix.com/product/twilite/

i take this before bed, it's just melatonin and some aminos and vitamins and shit but i sleep so well and wake up so refreshed. i feel good the entire day

Doesn't get me super high but I can catch why it's an opioid-type high. Stimulating as it relaxes your nerves at low doses but high doses you might even feel that sweet layer of warmth. Take on an empty stomach optimally but sometimes I like to take it before going out and feel like a south-east asian john travolta

It's not technically pot, but vaping CBD oil. Legal too, at least where I am.
Get a cheap Evod vape pen and use it to vaporize the oil by itself. It's virtually eliminated my anxiety and has helped me have less trouble getting out of bed in the morning.

This guy knows what's good.
30-90mg codeine will bless your soul. If you are in a good mood when you take it then it will be amazing, if not it will be meh.
Just don't use it more than 2-3 times a week or you will risk 'immunity' to the dose or addiction.
Also, codeine stops you from shitting so keep that in mind.

Enjoy your low test you faggots

Name a substance that won't do that

Literally anything except alcohol and opiates/opioids

L-theanine. Shit is awesome, and if you mix it up with cofee you got a win combination to get on the day.

>not drinking a 200ml bottle of rikodeine and riding the 380mg of codeine

>The Virgin Krokodil

Holy fuck you are right user
ffs now i want a time machine to knock out teenage me. God dammit I needed the meds but I would've rather just skipped school than reduce my T by fkn HALF
I don't know how to feel about this.

>12 hour half life
Ooh boii r u wrong.
t ex junkiw

Who the he'll does opiates as a teen? It's all about DUDE WEED LMAO while you're under 18. Anyways why did you need opiate meds as a teen while you were in school?

Shrooms, they're practically harmless, extremely difficult to get addicted to as doing them more then once a fortnight will give you such a tolerance that you won't feel anything, and you can usually only get them for a short few months of every year. They make me euphoric and happy, and cause me to think deeply and reflect on my life from an outside perspective.

I had some un-diagnosed stomach pains. Switching diet didnt help much. Doctors didn't know for certain and the meds they prescribed didn't work either. They recommended Panadol so I tried cold water extractions on Panadol to get higher doses of codeine and no paracetamol. It worked like a charm and it had the benefit of feeling amazing. I wouldn't have been able to finish high school without it honestly but it sucks knowing I probably din irreversible damage.
Now I've grown out of the pains I guess. I nearly never get them now.

I've heard passionflower tea works

How long were you on it and what was the does? If it was a long period of time and u were taking it almost every day, I'm pretty sure you test levels are extremely fucked. Anyways if youre so concered, i suggest getting your hormones checked and maybe get trt if its really bad

Dose* and concerned*

I've been on CBD oil for a few weeks now, shit is legit.

This
The power of now audiobook in youtube
Pay it foward after you get it

trying this now, feel like I'm joining a cult

A bit more than a year and at least 50mg a week.
I probably should get tested. I didn't feel any different then but who knows what sort of growth gains I've missed out on.

>does xanax really make you black out?
it's big pharma alcohol

it makes you addicted and fucks your brain long term

Xanax is a rescue drug from a panic attack. If you use it explicitly for that, and your panic attacks happen two or three times a month, you'll be okay. Use it for anything else or take it once a week or more and it'll fuck you up.

t. been on it for two years and have avoided addiction and side effects

Chamomile tea works wonders. It also tastes fantastic, give it a try OP.

Oh, and don't use substances to relax, you dumb fuck. Learn to meditate and get to a relaxed state of being on your own.

Im on 1g of valerian a day 3x 339mg valerian root pills. Helps to relax, i guess anyone else using them?

my friend in highschool a few years ago used to take them and go to sleep in class. I guess it worked for him. he was hella weird tho

They're meant to take before you go to sleep but i take em for anxiety

Kava is good shit. I make the tea at night when I need to relax.

Heroin.

No joke it makes you really relaxed.

I feel nothing from 2000mg phenibut on an empty stomach, gonna try 2500mg soon

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I won't tell you what drugs to do, but I will tell you should you choose to do them, that this site

erowid.org/psychoactives/psychoactives.shtml

will tell you everything you need to know about them, including dosages and user experiences. Stay safe.

I used to be on sedoxil/diazepam/benzos whatever theyre called in your country. I quit cold turkey but somehow it seems I kinda avoided side effects but it was 4 years ago so I dont remember, or I kinda dosed it down by myself since I never saw the doc again

shortstory, had panic attacks, feeling out of reality, seeing myself in like 3D perspective, cloudy and foggy mind(this shit still persists quite more often than I'd like, constant fogginenss in my brain) and I was on that shit for 2months and half or even 3 and it was awful, suicidal thoughts, depression(which seems to have come back, doesnt help getting cheated on)

would like to smoke weed to relax/foreget all this but im scared it will trigger this shit again, lifting and eating healthy helped A LOT

Cumming inside of a woman

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alcohol is dumb as fuck and kills your gains.

what's wrong with pot tho?

Panax Ginseng ... don't combine with caffeine