How much does fapping degenerate you as a person

>I fuck my girl *almost* everyday
>jacks of several times a week
>thinks he's a "cum factory"

7 a day is a stroll in the park for me bucko, full loads coming out every time, on a good day I can pump out a dozen or so before the loads start getting smaller. I think I've done more than 20 several times before.

No shit you don't need nofap, you are running at like 10% compared to all of us who are trying to do it.

Note that I said porn specifically and not fapping

But nice to know the epitome of sexual pleasure in your life is porn you cuckold

Well if it was my damn career I might be able to train my way to comparable numbers you goddamn professional.

Yeah, it's a total time dump. Which is why we are all trying to quit, at least it's why I want to quit. It's been years of over using porn since I was around 12 or so. It's pretty fucked up to think that I was browsing /gif/ for hours a day as a kid, my parents shouldn't have given me a laptop.

Any straight guy that faps 80+% of the time to traps/trannies?

I really don't know how to interpret this. At first I thought I was going full homo, so I watched some gay porn and I found it disgusting. Really, it does nothing to me.

>inb4 faggot

I guess that sucks. At the same time though I am impressed.

Like, dead unironically, youre fucking gay.

I actually have a gf that I fuck the shit out of on a daily basis. But unlike you I don't blame my problems on porn because nofap is a fucking meme. Calling someone a cuck is such a bitch move. Bet you wouldn't say shit to me irl, you'd probably just look at my gf and save it for your spankbank since you're against internet porn.

>I actually have a gf that I fuck the shit out of on a daily basis
Keep watching your porno cuckee, me and Chad will be fucking her while you're busy

You'd probably gift me your wife because you're a cuck and then jack off crying to me banging her

The moral of the story folks is this:
If you watch porn, you're a cuck
No exceptions

Could you newfags stop using the goddamn cuckold term. You're pissing me off. I bet you think reddit spacing is a thing as well, don't you

What if I jerk it to two men fucking but I'm totally straight

Yep. I fucked one once when i was drunk on vacation. Wasn't as hot irl.

>me and Chad will be fucking her
cuck

t. mad porn watching cuck

Sex is always hot, and youre not watching your gf get fucked youre watching some slut you never met get fucked. There's no possession factor. Only denial cucks think there's something cuck like about porn.

That being said you should still limit how much porn you watch. Fapping is fine tho.

Zero.
The world will do the deed at all times if you are weak.
>you're a career man, your image is important, a 10/10 chick sends you nudes, but wants a pic of your dick if you want more
>what do you do, user, will you do it?

keep telling yourself this bucko if it helps you sleep at night
CHAD knows the true story

ur gay and don't nkow it, why else would you be on Veeky Forums?

no homo tho

Talk her into meeting me

Jacking to fucking 2d anime girls is the only way and true enlightenment.

I fuck one girl a week in uni retard

No, i will honestly get scared, cause its a real person

sommer is over, newfriend. Time to get back on facebook

Is it right after she gets railed by the fraternity CHADS [ie me]?

Unless you could prove it, why would you decide to post this?

For the sake of the argument. Am I supposed to save and snap a picture of every used condom instead of throwing it in the trash like a sane person?

Frat """"" chads"""""" are manlets and usually ugly. Only a few genuine chads there, I.e. competition

tell that to my dick inside your girlfriend cucko

Semen retention is healthy. Increases your test.

>Am I supposed to save and snap a picture of every used condom instead of throwing it in the trash like a sane person?
That's exactly what I mean, dumb dumb. My point is, you're not going to prove it, and no one you're responding to will believe it, so why make the damn claim

[Citation needed]

How then?

Use your imagination. How did you do it before you watched porn?

Went full no fap but see incidental porn and nudes on Veeky Forums. Femanons in cbt threads....the fuck dude.

I....just pissed out what felt and looked like a cup of semen ten minutes ago. I..I don't know what to make of it.
It didn't feel good or anything it was just...welp spunk had to go.

Unless you're doing nofap for the exercise in discipline, it's a waste of time. So, why are you?

Discipline, test boost, self control, ridiculous cunny flooding creampies.
And heavy masturbation and porn use consumed a lot of years of my life so I'm going to become a souless fuckstud and spend most of my time having meaningless sex with thots, the occasional dyke and queer cunts I meat from craigslist and the like. Might even get into orgies and go full bull for married couples. Lord knows I've turned down a lot invitations from swingers.

>Not jerking it to feet videos

You're never gonna make it

Good reasons for doing it, my man. The test boost might as well not even be there, though, since it's such a negligible increase and low duration

Your test levels are increased by noticable and significnat percentage points for as long as you abstain.
Also, test isn't the end all and be all of what makes you a fully functioning and healthy man. It's a good indicator of health and strength and supplementing with it(supplementing not the insane bodybuilding doses that are proposed and used in fitness since sandows time) will force your body to react in a way where it would normally react if you were taking care of business when it comes to your basic health and fitness.

Is it okay if we do it to solo girls? like they aren't doing anything its just the girl

>Your test levels are increased by noticable and significnat percentage points for as long as you abstain.
This is not true. Least, I have never seen a citation to support this. The increase happens on the seventh day, and is around a 100% increase (Don't recall exact amount)
This increase is nothing. I know it sounds like much, but you need a FAR greater amounts to achieve any difference, as is done with steroids. And, as I said, even if you were to gain steroid tier test boost, it wouldn't have any effect, since it's only one day.

If you got a citation for what you said, I'd be happy to read it

They did a two month test on college aged men and they noticed a significant boost in test levels.

Lastly, natural test levels and what you have to do to your body to build and maintain higher levels of test will show real overall life improvements. All of which are noticable by any man who's done it.

Steroids is just bullying your body into changing because you're too impatient or lazy or ignorant to do the long term legwork to build a more fit higher test natural body.

Yes actually.
Solo amature straight girls going to town on themselves is the patricians choice for heterosexual men.
Bonus points if the talk to the camera or are just filthy talkers in general.

Pete Rubish said abstinence made him feel a huge boost in energy and dedication and the dude is juiced to the gills. If he can notice a difference then I'm natties proabably will too.

>They did a two month test on college aged men and they noticed a significant boost in test levels.
Do you have it on hand, because I can't find it. The only I can find is that comes close is: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11760788
and it's not the one you talked about and not very specific in its conclusion
>Steroids is just bullying your body into changing because you're too impatient or lazy or ignorant to do the long term legwork to build a more fit higher test natural body.
Eh, depends on your goal. There is no lifestyle in the world that will give you the test levels of a cycle. So, if you reach the natty limit, or as close as is possible, than steroids can be a way forward

>Calls something a meme without seriously trying it.

NOFAP has origins in Happeh Theory, which although being one of the most ancient and mysterious memes on the internet, has a basis in truth. All religions on earth promote abstinence for males (in spite of there being no evolutionary basis for this) ... the reason? Because spiritual energy DOES exist, and it DOES get expended when you come, whether in your hand or in a female.

Give not your strength unto women.

do not commit fornication with yourself, why is it I see every man his hands on his loins, like a woman in travail? Their faces have turned pale.

Veeky Forums is the blind leading the blind. So is reddit. NoFap has worked for me 100%.

Be careful not to develop autogynephilia (the designed purpose of porn and the scientific name for being a literal cuck)

>Pete Rubish said abstinence made him feel a huge boost in energy and dedication and the dude is juiced to the gills
Can't really use an anecdote for anything. Placebo is also a real thing, so if you actually believe you get energy and dedication from abstinence, then you can trick your body into producing it - to an extend, of course. So it's not a trait of the nofap, but of owns own self delusion.

Placebo or real? more studies are needed. I'd be careful with drawing any firm conclusions

>spiritual energy DOES exist, and it DOES get expended when you come, whether in your hand or in a female.
I had exactly ZERO fucking difference in any spirit, other than the need to fucking wank it, when I did nofap.
Why should anyone believe that it DOES exist. Do you intend to prove it?

see my post. the effect cannot be measured scientifically. If you have common sense though you can perceive it. Don't you feel tired and weak after intercourse?

I'm not gonna go any further than this, if you refuse to concede this point there's no other advice I can give

In the same breath you admit that placebo has effects. We have plenty of documentation that placebo can have very profound effects on the body, to the point that a placebo (which might be working by your own admission) that does show signs of working *could* actually be working in the exact way that is described.

Anyway Pete had no reason to shill for no-fap, the dude always has gfs and is on tren so you know hes banging several times a day. He just made a passing comment on one of his update videos about how much his intensity, drive and focus had increased when his girlfriend had been away (he wasn't fapping either).

>Don't you feel tired and weak after intercourse?
Yes, and that has nothing to do with "spiritual" energy. Orgasm acts as a sleep aid. It lasts all of approximately 20 minutes, after which all is back to normal, if you even felt any different.

Is melatonin, the sleep hormone, also an enemy of the spirit, then? If that's the case, you'd best avoid dark rooms and the night, you silly goose

Wait so you shower with ur friends?

How would that form? I typically just go on /s/ and look at pictures, does autogynephilia form from female masturbation porn or something? I just can't see how it'd form from stuff like nude shots.

>In the same breath you admit that placebo has effects. We have plenty of documentation that placebo can have very profound effects on the body, to the point that a placebo
Exactly. But that, in itself, has nothing to do with nofap. It has to do with the power of belief. I can't be given this placebo, because I don't believe in it. I feel no difference, abstinences or no, in any area other than my libido.
>Anyway Pete had no reason to shill for no-fap, the dude always has gfs and is on tren so you know hes banging several times a day. He just made a passing comment on one of his update videos about how much his intensity, drive and focus had increased when his girlfriend had been away (he wasn't fapping either).
He doesn't have to be a shill to be wrong. The guy is already on tren and test. I'd look more to those.
Again, there isn't enough studies to conclude in either way, but I feel like the effects of nofap are heavily overstated.

>porn is morally bad imo
Why do you think that?

Also, why are you tripfagging?

I can't for the life of me find the study. But it stated that as long as they abstained from jacking off their test levels were high as fuck.

Yes. We all know that.
But no one cares about the unnatural levels of test granted by a cycle. We're here talking about the physical and mental changes that occur within the body when one gives up jacking off and porn.

Also, placebo's potency is different, depending on which area we're talking about. Most medicine, when the placebo substitute is used, doesn't come close to what the actual medicine would do

No

You're sure it was a certified study? do you recall where you read it?

no, for the same reasons that watching normal porn is bad. eventually you'll be desensitized to solo's and will move on

nofap is great if you want to up your energy. it makes you thirsty as fuck. if you're jacking it enough that you're losing energy to work out/pursue chicks, you need nofap. if you want a stepping stone to improve your habits and want someplace to start, you need nofap. if you're looking at weird shit on the internet because vanilla porn bores you, you need nofap. if you don't, you won't get much out of it other than some practice with self control.
it's not magic, it's just taking responsibility for your dick. It's a meme AND it somewhat works. It's not like the movie Limitless in that you suddenly become ultra focussed and motivated but the knowledge that you remained strong instead of giving in to your base instincts will make you a bit more confident and might thus lead to other improvements.

Seriously. How does it take like 200 replies for someone to come up with a balanced and reasonable post in reslonse to this stupid bait thread? Nofap is not magic. Real world results are negligible. HOWEVER if your life is a wreck and you're just jerking off to avoid responsibility, that's a problem. If it takes making yourself sexually frustrated to improve your situation, more power to you. Not everyone needs nofap. But some people do.

I would like to be able to transcend the primitive need to pleasure myself like an animal. Masturbation is spirit degrading, useless, and pathetic. There is a reason it is a sin. Porn is a whole other beast. A Jewish run business that has no other purpose but to make men addicted for profit. Porn creators are no better than drug dealers. In fact, they are worse since most dealers sell due to poverty.

It's nonsense written by someone who's either never actually gone without porn and masturbation ever or a woman.

fapping isn't that bad, the problem is having an arousal addiction or a porn addiction. I think its more about arousal, flicking through pages n pages of ridiculous semen demons, your brain has no idea that its not real and it thinks your some kind of sex god. It does something to the body, fucks with your reward system and dopamine and you start to lose pleasure from regular activities that were otherwise enjoyable in the past. Some people get to the point where they will jerk off quickly just to boost their mood before they do other activities and not even because they were originally turned on.

jerking off itself is fine and if you stop doing it you will get cancer or erectile dysfunction, unless you are sexually active constantly.

>try nofap.
>realize how lonely and dull my life is.
>want to fix it but havent figured out how.

>convincing yourself of all this bullshit just so you feel bad about jerking off
absolutely pathetic

The guys who are getting so shrilly butthurt at the suggestion that their rewiring their brains by constant wanking to degenerate porn are doing a great job of convincing me to do nofap. Honest to god you guys sound exactly like body positivity activists claiming that 5000 calories of pizza for breakfast is a healthy choice.

keep watching porn goy

Go do more steroids, Brad.

you talked about primitive needs then talk about porn with is modern, get yourself sorted out you confused person

ye

I like how porn-watchers and porn-addicts try so desperately to defend their degenerate habit.

While it's true that we all watch porn, NO FAP is valuable and completely worthwhile endeavor. It goes hand in hand with lifting. It essentially urges you to go outside your comfort zone to find sexual pleasure. It tells your mind, "If you want to feel pleasure, you're going to have to work for it," which is exactly what lifting tells your mind.

This summer I cut masturbation out of my life as much as possible. I essentially use it as a reward for myself or if I'm feeling extremely stressed out. This summer I picked up several fuck buddies and had sex just about every week for the past ~3 months. Dating apps are full of solid 7's trying to suck dick. Instead of jacking off, you could spend a day snapchatting your cock and abs to a girl and then literally fuck her the next day.

That's the power of NO FAP. Highly recommend it.

...

and then when you do get laid you cum in the first 5 seconds

see pic

In general, fapping to porn is probably bad for you, but in like a - slouching when watching tv kind of way. Not a big deal on it's own but if it's all you do then it'll quickly cause you more problems.

Does listening to ero hypnos and coming without fapping count?

>go no fap for a month
>takes me only a couple minutes to cum when I try it again
>doesn't feel very pleasurable
>The semen is thick and voluminous
>Go back to masturbating around once a day
>things go back to normal
>feel less stressed
>ejaculating feels pleasurable again

never again will i fall for the meme

Will showing off my gains and thick near ten inch dick ensure that I get a steady supply of warm wet holes to spend hours rage fucking and filing with cum/worshipping my dick and teasing and sucking out my load till I erupt into their waiting warm mouths?

I need to know.

Yes.

I posted this earlier today but I literally advertised myself on YikYak in my college town and found a 5-6/10 girl who wanted to fugg based off of body and dick

I was normie big and 7x6 and she was frothing at the mouth for dick. However you could end being the guy who ended up in this situation. Pic related is the same chick who ended up being pregnant a few months after with some other dude and she kept the baby.

also if you gotta ten inch cock just go into porn

Awesome!

black guy?

Lmao no, there aren't very many blacks around these parts. The dude was actually blond with blue eyes, I know because she started posting pics with him on social media. They weren't dating or anything, and now that guy is stuck with that in his mid twenties, pretty shit deal if you ask me. This girl was fucking cock-hungry though, would send videos of her fingering herself after getting her worked up with sexting and body+dick pics. Her face was total plain jane but she had a decent rack and a tight ass but if you've got a decent body and a nice cock you can pull sluts all day long.

so you fucked her and then that guy fucked her and got her pregnant?

i hope he take care of the baby and the girl

No.
I don't want to have to fuck dudes to get in.
The only other way into that industry without going through a dudes asshole is the queer and kink half of the industry.
Even then I'd still have to do fairly cagey stuff with dudes.
Being a camstud who comes in to bang rando women or a nice affable stunt cock for single independent women seems to be easier. However there aren't that many single black female independents who're making much money and I'd be stuck in HORSE DICKED BLACK STUD porn.

Maybe I should give the last part some thought.