To any other anons with depression, how do you get to the gym on a bad day...

worst fuckin part is the crash after the post workout high wears off. anyone know how to deal with this?

>post workout high
Is this a drugs thing?

How well does distraction work for you? Once you get home, watch a movie or something and ease yourself off

I'm American but antidepressants don't work for me, I wish they did honestly, it sounds fucking amazing to be able to pop a pill and just feel better. Is it really that nice?

Nah

Distraction works maybe 25% of the time, I guess. I often find sperg shit that I've done in the past pop into my head, which leads to thoughts of self hatred, followed by feeling like suicide is the only way out (I'm unlikely to go through with it, but that's just how it feels).

Took me 3 days of taking ADs that I could finally sleep and wake up completely rested
it was fucking fantastic
now I've been off for three weeks to see if the therapy sticks, it didn't, I'm a walking dead until the 15th when I have an appointment again
honestly the ADs changed my life to "bretty gud" again, but I mostly did what amounts to CBT on my own so I never really had many mental issues, only the constant fucking tiredness that doesn't go away

not that other user but I just came off them after about 3 years on a couple different ones

You don't really notice it cause it takes weeks to a month to fully kick in and if you do, you realize you suddenly are enjoying things, at least a little bit, again. You have a little more energy now and seem to be in a general better mood.

Then the ideas of "is this who I am?" "is a life on pills still my own life?" "do I really need to be on these?" start to float around in the corners of your brain, slowly creeping their way up until you can't help but wonder these things frequently to the point where you ponder if you're even yourself anymore because you don't remember what life was like off of them. Maybe you're better now? Maybe you were just being dramatic? So you decide to give sobriety a shot and come off the meds, go through the fucking terrible withdrawals, and then you wait. You wait to see when you'll be yourself. Whether life will forget or remind you of why you took the meds in the first place. Eventually you remember that life never has, nor ever will give a shit about you. So you either decide to hop back on the "not exactly happy but better than depression" pill or you sit on the fence waiting for a good enough reason to which often times just leads you down the dark road you first walked down, but you still don't recognize it

Try discipline, not motivation.

Go even if you don't want to.

If nothing else, you'll feel better afterwards.

I work out at home. I get horribly depressed so I feel the need to work out every day. I guess I'm """"lucky"""" in that sense.

Do your workout before bed, maybe an hour or so before and chill after with some yoghurt and TV. Then you don't have to deal with the crash because you're going to sleep anyway and you have something to look forward to all day.

>how do you get to the gym on a bad day
You just do it. It hurts, it sucks, but that's the price of discipline.
You'll be glad you did it once you're not depressed anymore.

>once you're not depressed anymore
Not so simple m80.

But I agree with the rest of your post.

I'm fighting depression without pills but I feel like I'm slowly losing. I live in a shit country where if I go to a doctor about it I'll probably lose my job. What do? Aside from lift obv.

>Tfw lifting depressed and found this thread

How the fuck do I motivate myself to push another set, increase my weight or even lift at all when I literally just think about dying every waking minute?

>be neet
>family despises me so much for this (unironically treat me like a drug dealer or rapist - it's been 6 fucking months) that home life is absolute shit, feel guilty for ever being slightly happy about anything, all communication is one word grunts from father, mother literally hasn't said a word to me in 2 months other than hurling abuse
The obvious solution is to get a job and leave but then I'd be working a dogshit job 40+ hours a week for shit pay barely making ends meet whilst living in a shithole - which sounds equally miserable and twice as hard

Anyway back to lifting - lifting will fix this r-right?

>working a dogshit job 40+ hours a week for shit pay barely making ends meet whilst living in a shithole

Welcome to real life lad.

>Not so simple
In my case I get big depressions every few years that last 2-3 months, by big I mean having suicidal thoughts and such.
Only thing I can do is hold on, and eventually it fades away. I found that keeping the mind occupied also helps.
Although, since changing my diet and getting Veeky Forums I'm a lot better most of the time. We truly just are just a bunch of chemicals.
On a side note, fuck antidepressants. The withdrawal gave me the worst time of my life.

I guess

I have shit tier qualifications because my very last year of college I fell apart completely and now I need to work full time and can't afford to go back so I guess I get to be a waiter for the next 60 years

God I wish I had the guts to just fucking hang myself already

You should get a job out of spite. Then remember how your family treated you in future.

Anyway it helps keep the mind busy. One must keep working continuously; otherwise, one thinks of death

I switched from sertraline to mirtazapine. It is dopaminergic rather than just serotonin.

Mirtazapine side effects:

- Makes you hungrier (good and bad depending on if you are bulking or cutting)
- Make you sleep like a fucking log. (really great. much of depression and nogainz is to do with sleep and here is the cure.)
- Makes me more motivated (dopamine is motivation chemical) (great)

Overall I rate it 9/10. It stops suicide thoughts 95% and gives a bunch of useful bonuses

Just wish I wasn't on a cut atm!

Also I use a belt while squatting now. It somehow is very motivating and I get more of a chemical "high" when lifting a PB

Best videos/books for CBD? a LOT of trash out there.

Going to the gym makes me feel less depressed, so I use it as a coping mechanism for when I'm sad.

All of the sadness turns into anger and I can let it out on the weights.

see my post on mirtazapine . It kicked in on day 1. sent me straight to sleep. you have to take it before bed. Its great.

I just force myself to do what I gotta do mane.

Bunch of times I was a lazy fuck not wanting to move a muscle but said fuck it and went to do the shit I need, this doesn't imply only the gym, but pretty much everything related in life.

When you have to do something you tend to ignore all the other obstacles and just push through that as fast as you can, then run back to your safe zone.

Do you also have small bouts of mania for 2-3 months at the opposite times of the depressive bouts?

Buy them online. Setraline is the main one.

But try to find the root cause of your depression.

I recommend you look up Jordan Peterson videos on depression.

This one explained to me why being treated like shit at work made me suicidal.

youtube.com/watch?v=ZVwJduAVFY8&t=1s

I thought for a long time that what I wanted in life was to achieve something very high in this field and to never give up. I did just that and I stopped hanging out with people and ended up focusing on studying and learning either at work or at home. Eventually things went south and I was being promoted and had to train other people and teach them my skills, that's kind of where I learned that other people who work with me don't really know shit and they don't put in the amount of effort as me. I stopped studying since I was always alone and always studying or working on something from work, I completely gave up on studying for certifications 3 months ago and have spent every day playing video games. Truth be told, I have no friends and this work/life is really painful on the mind since you can be really good at what you do and one day you figure out that other people actually socialize outside of work and you're the guy who never gets invited anywhere.

These days, I want to start studying again and end up getting promoted in the next few months, but for what reason? To climb the ladder again, and to make more than 150k and join the solutions/architect team?

For what reason? I'm single and alone, the other guys are married and spend their time working or sitting at home with their wife

I have nothing anymore, except this career and I used to be so busy and happy I didn't care about being alone. But now, I can only see myself being alone and miserable at this job forever

I'm also depressed and there is no help or way to deal with it..

Youve got to make some changes, and it will be hard.

You are in toxic environment and will only get worse see this video: youtube.com/watch?v=ZVwJduAVFY8&t=1s

Whats your degree? can you bullshit your way into programming job or something

Spoken like a person that does not in fact have a diagnose with clinical depression, but rather just a lazy person thinking they got over some big hurdle by working out. VERY IMPRESSIVE user I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU MANAGED.
Get on SSRI's dude, if you're ACTUALLY depressed it's likely a chemical imbalanced that can easily be fixed.
Being "depressed" and being depressed are two different things and are treated differently, if you have improperly functioning serotonin receptors it's a physical ailment that you can fix with SSRI medication, you will know immediately, it's like night and day.

95% of the people posting claiming to be depressed don't know the difference between depression and unhappiness

Need some advice

>be me 20 yr old living with parents
>working part time and studying for my CPT
>barely enough money saved but I pay rent to my parents and they only want 300
>I stay busy and try to avoid contact because my family constantly talks down to me
>my mother especially
>everyday she likes to remind me that I'm a failure because she wants to "push me"
>keeps telling me I mad e a mistake NOT joining the military
>keeps bringing up other people's kids
>keeps telling me I'm a lazy bum whenever I'm off work
>yesterday something was especially off
>I get a call before I'm off work and its her asking what time
>let her know and she gets upset because she was planning to go to the casino
>I had no other way to get home, uber and lyft weren't working for some reason and no cash for bus
>I protest and just leave it before it escalates
>she bitches and then hangs up
>few minutes later get another call
>"hey user I'm picking you up. Also Shut the FUCK up. Bye"
>confused
>on the way home ask her if she wants me to drop her to the casino
>"you see this is why I don't like you, you always start shit you just-"
>cut her off and start getting extremely mad
>always had abuse from her but not that I'm older + lift I've gotten extremely angry living here
>start yelling at her and wondering why the fuck she's flipping out when I'm offering to drop her off to gamble the money her boyfriend gives her

Cont.

Pt 2
>fast forward couple hours later
>who time I've been inside my room and calm
>girlfriend is with me and I'm just venting and chilling
>everything is okay
>go inside, knock on her door and ask if I can use the family car
>boyfriend and looking at her waiting for an answer
>acts like I'm not fucking here
>he calls to her and looks at me
>she doesn't bat an eye or move
>still acts like I don't exist
>he then raises his voice a little
>she looks at him then down again and says, "what?"
>he tells me I can go
This was in the span of one day. I've been here almost 2 years and its slowly getting worse. I need to move out desparetly but I don't know where and I have a shitty job. Also,
>same night
>talking to sister because she's sick and making sure she's not dying
>mom comes in the room and shoves me out the way then talks to her
>I walk out and let them chill
>once mom walks into kitchen she seems off
>go to wash dishes and she starts moving me out the way
>ask her what's wrong
>"I don't like you."
>wtf why
>at this point I had it and I get mad
What do you mean you don't like me? The fuck did I do? All day you've had a fucking problem with me. Every day you have a fucking problem with me.
>at this point she starts walking away and being nonchalant about it "yeah yeah."
I don't do anything besides help you with shit and all you do is yell at me to do fucking everything. Is it cause I'm the youngest? I know I'm broke. Is it cause I don't give you enough money? You're happiest person on the fucking planet when I give you the rent and extra money for you.
>"yeah yeah get the fuck out of my house. You're a loser you don't like it get the fuck out of here."
>walk out
>have mental breakdown
>girlfriend then starts arguing with me because I slept in living room to watch over my sister.
Fuck. I'm so exhausted right now I only slept 2 hours because of this. I need to get out but there's no realistic scenario in which its possible.

your an adult. cut ties with your pathological family and become a man

Just move out. It's the only way. So make it happen. You can live off of a part time job. I did it. Rent a cheap room. Eat cheap. Just make it work. Do it for yourself. Trust me, independence is key to peace of mind, especially if you have a fucked up mom.

not the best advice and certainly not something for everyone, but after trying different methods of treatment from therapy to meds, I dipped my toe in psychedelics, mostly out of curiosity. After a couple really horrifying and a couple really therapeutic experiences, I think my mental state has improved somewhat. I don't know if I would go as far as to say that I made some sort "Ego breakthrough" or gay shit like that, but I believe this kind of thing can help.

I live in San Francisco. Its fucking difficult here. Hoping I can live with my cousin but I gotta ask him first.

I can't handle this. Last time I lived with him was when I was 15. I had no motivation and no drive. And I feel like if I go back it'll be the same.

OP here, I do have a diagnosis and everything, along with a few other disorders, but much to my chagrin I've never found any meds to help. I might give them a shot again at some point, but at this point I've learned to deal with it pretty well on my own, and if I'm not in a major slump I can usually just work through it. But that's why I was asking this question, I was wondering if anybody else knew something a little easier than just muscling through it.

Really though, get the fuck out of there, because that situation is not going to get better ever, it'll only get worse

Going to the gym just makes me more depressed desu.

I'm 5ft7 and constantly see guys taller than me who are way less muscular being infinitely more desirable by women

As a short man I feel like I put in more work at the gym and my desirability doesn't increase while I see tall men putting in zero effort and their desirability just constantly stays high due to their height.

I take lexapro and I push myself to go. I know some days blow and I don't want to do anything but I know if I don't I'll regret not going today in the future. Being fit makes me happy. It's led me to finally live to make myself happy instead of being codependent.

t. Depressed for 16 years

it's easy going to the gym.

after all, it's the only time i'm not absolutely, positively miserable.

Rent a room with your gf or just move out ouf San Francisco. Live your life, dude. Don't be scared of change or hardship, as long as you are going your way. Embrace it.

Move man. Get a fresh start. That place is such a shtihole

Height, face, frame

Good

Hey man I have a bunch of extras I'm not using, Im only taking pristiq right now, if you want ill send you some, just pay the shipping and drop me a throwaway email.

I don't know about your financial situation, but if you can risk taking out student loans (you live in a country with loans and you're getting a high demand engineering/software degree) then do it. I know a few guys from poor families who took the risk and got loans for aerospace engineering degrees, and yeah they have to pay $50,000 in loans off but they're making $100,000+ a year and will pay it off in a couple years and not totally worried about their future.

for anyone struggling with deciding to go to school. if you're American, go the best public uni you can. look into getting instate residency (you can after 1 year of living there if you get a drives license and work part time over the summer) and that will mean you only pay out of state tuition the first year. keep your gpa good (take fewer classes in the semester and go for 5 years if you have to. it's that important) do undergrad research and internships and co-ops (co-ops are easier to get bc you have to take a whole semester off school to work and they look better on resumes). sorry I'm rambling but this is all vital info I wish I could go back and tell myself t b h.

I haven't been diagnosed, but I'm assuming depression probably fucks with my progress more than anything else. There are days where I wake up and feel weak, exhausted, and like I can't handle life at all. I've always had trouble sleeping on top of that; I can't fall asleep easily or stay asleep for longer than 6 hours, usually.

I'm on wellbutrin (SSRIs cause people in my family to become batshit and attack cops/school principals, so I never tried it) and isn't a cure-all but it takes some of the edge off.

Hurt your back and get some tramadol.
Jesus fuck if that's not a cure for depression, I don't know what is.
Fucking great man,

if you aren't doing cardio, incorporate cardio. It's been about half a year after my father died from his 3rd cancer and while I haven't been entirely depressed, I've had a rather trifling complication with hypochondria and everyday I'm checking different parts of my body and feeling around for tumors or blood or other shit.

despite all of this hanging over me atm, I know that if I can just hope on my exercise bike, and bike like a healthy madman for 45 minutes, I'll feel fucking amazing from the endorphin and anti-inflammatory rush (/fast/ here ayyyy)

While weights are good in their own way, a nice session of cardio will take you a long way towards getting to a better place

I also HIGHLY recommend hiking on the weekends

I'm have similar issues with hypochondria and was wondering if you've found anything that helps outside of anti-anxiety medications?

it depends, walking for an hour daily and clean diet helped me. just getting a simple walk in does amazing things for endorphins.
meditating daily using a 20 minute meditation like what's offered in the calm app is also good.

Another thing you could look into is just fortifying your health; I'm obsessed with making myself the best version of me possible because something as extremely rare as cancer doesn't seem far away becuase my motherfucking dad had it thrice(never smoke btw); ergo, I do OMAD and 3 day fasts every day and week and get in a lot of cardio and like to make friends.

Your experience will probably be different and better than mine though, I snapped some shit and got my costochondritis again 2 months into my mental recovery, having pain when I breath in occasionally kept bringing me back to thinking about possibly having tuberculosis or some other horrible malady daily which has put a rather silly yet still extant roadblock on my way back to complete mental health; hitting up a chiropractor on monday that's gonna hopefully fix everything up tho.

tl:dr
ensure your good health
meditate
make friends
cardio
see chiro or PT asap if you have recurring pain, it WILL bring you down into a non-resourceful state

We're all gonna make it

Thank you user I appreciate it. Best of luck to you!

I have had severe anxiety and depression since breaking up with the ex a year ago. Like waking up in the middle of the night crying because I'm having a panic attack while sleeping, pretty much being unable to function.

Luckily it has started getting better in general, or at least bearable.

Now I'm able to hit the gym 6 days a week no problem, I had a transition phase where I'd try my hardest not to breakdown at the gym and when I'd get home after I'd breakdown and cry.

During that time I listened to / watched speedruns on my phone while at the gym. For whatever reason, speedruns have helped me out a lot with my depression and anxiety, or at least have helped pass the time and make me feel 'ok' during the worst times. I guess they take my mind of things. I concentrate because I like the games and I want to know how they do this and that, and in some games there's a lot of detail.

So I'd go to the gym and have Pokemon Yellow speedruns playing on my phone on the ground. Looking back, some of the weird looks people had when they noticed was pretty fucking funny.

Anyways, find something that helps you get through it, helps you zone out and take your mind off things. Maybe try audiobooks or podcasts. Or if eating pizza helps with depression, start hitting the gym HARD AS FUCK and start bulking so you can reward yourself with some pizza now and then. Treating myself is awesome now since I'm bulking and working out really hard.

I know this was aspie as fuck but I dont care, I hope it helps user. I'm rooting for you to get through your depression so just keep on keepin on.

What are the early signs of depression to watch out for? I think I may be beginning to have some but I also want to get on accutane soon (I've used pretty much everything else and the doctor has already said it's probably the next step if doxycycline doesn't work which it doesn't) to improve my vile skin which I can't do if I get diagnosed with depression.

Accutane won't make you depressed, it just gives you a lot to be pissed off about. Having gone on it myself, I can tell you that it sucks, but it's very worth it. Think really dry skin, kind of cloudy in the head, and your appetite gets fucked with. Like I said, though, it's totally worth it. I generally wash my face every other day with Dove soap and don't break out unless I eat dairy or do something that specifically makes me break out.
It's worthy of noting that I kind of dealt with some depressive symptoms beforehand, too, but not having them exacerbated by acne all the time has actually made it almost like taking a load off of that.
Pic related is my skin now.

I use lifting as an anger outlet

Both keto and fasting will help get rid of the acne and the scarring

t. guy who couldn't even take off his shirt 2 years ago because he looked like an escaped zombie

Your experience with Accutane is nice and all, but it shouldn't be that easy for everyone. Someone's acne might be caused by hormones or a routine and Accutane won't be of much use there.

Just saying its different for everyone and be careful with this stuff if you decide to go on it.

Hate
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Extra half scoop of pre

Go get thy gains

You have to mentally shift gears so that going to the gym is the thing you look forward to. I have a soul crushing, dog shit, 8-5 job that I absolutely hate. The worst part of every day is 7:20 because that's when I have to get out of bed. Spin class on Monday and Wednesday lets me work out a lot of the negative energy I accumulate from work, no friends, no gf, not enough sleep, etc. There's high tempo music, my body is active, my focus is all on the workout, and instructor helps us push through ridiculously hard workouts together. I would relish getting hit by a bus as much as any of the depressed fucks ITT as long as it doesn't happen on my way to the YMCA.

>Take two kryptonites and call me in the morning

>How the fuck do I motivate myself to push another set, increase my weight or even lift at all when I literally just think about dying every waking minute?
That IS how you motivate yourself. Take your bottled up sadness, hate, and anger and push it into the lift.