Daily reminder the NFL does not use squats, dedL, ohp for gauging strength...

>I'm taller and stronger than the average football player
You're wrong. You're not even taller and stronger then the guys who flunk out of training camp.

>and I've been in boxing and mma for 8 years
They've been tossing around out playing and getting hit by guys as big and bigger then you for hours at a time for decades.

>plus I carry a gun so no
The average NFL player has a small fucking arsenal in their homes and they as well as their posse also carries a piece everywhere. It's a necessity.

Fucking troll/10 I replied. Football measures, records, and compares track exercises and weight lifted in yearly combines/training. Explosiveness is a combination of speed AND power. You need both to lay someone out in a short distance. While they may prefer to record x reps at 225,315 etc that doesn't mean they don't train at higher weights. Tons of college/pro players have vids online of them squatting quite abit of weight, some that even normal gym goer's wouldn't even want to attempt.

Football is not pure strength, so why does would they use lifts for measuring capability?

This thread is legitimately fucking retarded.

>you'd get destroyed by the average NFL benchwarmer linebacker

of course i fucking would, and so would you

>doubt intensifies

>plus I carry a gun so no

To be fair, football is probably one of the most braindead and skill less sports there is, it's almost exclusively about speed and strength

But a good chunk of that is peak strength and the ability to utilize that peak strength for long periods of time and constantly.

They don't have babby bitch peak strength peaks of 405. They have pure realworld useful strength where they can squat 405 for dozens of reps.

That's the most important thing. Not peak strength or strength that is only useful for short periods and under the best circumstances.

It's the kind of oldman strenght that is in their bones and they can use and harness from almost any angle for long periods of time and even go beyond that.

my favorite part is when his friend dive rolls over him as soon as he racks the weight

Early powerlifting and strongman culture is completely intertwined with the NFL. No fucking shit they also do sprints and athletic work on top of it. They're 2% athletes, they have to be good at everthing.

Football > Baseball

What's the smartest sport.
I'm curious.

Football.

crossfit

No idea what the smartest sport is, but it's pretty easy to see that it's not going to be a sport where you stop every ten seconds, lay out a set play, then sub out your entire line-up so that your attackers don't have to learn how to defend

Tetris or chess

Table tennis

While I do enjoy football, I'm gonna be controversial here, and say Rugby is a far superior sport, given what you just said.

petanque

I did not know this, ive started doing Gym Jones routines and can honestly say its the best and hardest training ive ever done

Is this b8? The average NFL playbook is bigger than a college text book.

How the fuck do I get forearms like that?

I don't know if either is superior, but many of the things that make sport enjoyable and exciting for me are removed from football, I like free flowing fast games that make you think on your feet, set plays have a place in every sport, but to reduce a game to practically nothing else drastically reduces the requirements on the athletes participating, leaving practically nothing but speed and strength

>learning set plays
>difficult
wew

Yeah but NFL plays are way more complex than a rugby one done on the fly. Every pre snap there are 3-4 plays the qb can audible to based on the defense, their formation, personnel etc. Then once the play starts he has to make a minimum of three progression reads in perfect rhythm with the receivers in less than 4 seconds. Every play is an incredibly high pressure situation that must be executed perfectly.

>No idea what the smartest sport is, but it's pretty easy to see that it's not going to be a sport where 90% of players are niggers

Fixed that for you.

>Running around until you see a weakness in the defense
>Any intelligence at all required
Wew

what on earth are you talking about

to be successful at most sports you have to be making the correct decisions constantly, the navy calls it the ooda cycle, and they apply it to dogfighting, consider any 1v1 sport, you are playing your opponent as much as you are playing the game

I don't think they know anything about american football.

You mean gay horsehoes?

When you're on as much cocaine as they are, you can play on pure instinct.

That's fucking stupid. Every position is specialized heavily so they can get the most out of every play.

Kick a kickball for an hour then pretend to get hurt then mug for the cameras while everyone screams loudly.

Rugby is essentially a children's little league american football game with no rules or set positions. How is that smarter?

1v1? So tennis or boxing requires the most intelligence?

They werent middle eastern, retard

They were chechens

Don't know if they require the most intelligence, a 1v1 sport is a good illustration of how an ooda cycle and fast decision making works is all

Daily reminder that you're a faggot and I'll SBD if I want to.

>every position is specialised
dead right, so much more specialised than many other sports, this greatly reduces the requirements on individual athletes in terms of game knowledge and decision making, which is what allows them to do one job really really well, because they are specialists

>t.amerifat who's never played or watched rugby before
youtube.com/watch?v=dHkWq9DXrHc&t=133s
let's get this cunt running at you and see what happens

I assume he means European football players.

So are astrophysicist less intelligent than physicists because they're so specialized? Fucking brainlet

>5'11"
>238

You're cute.
youtube.com/watch?v=ENuZHnQlqX0

Clowney is 6'6" 270 and runs a 4.53 40

Maybe, maybe not, but if one of them has to stop every ten seconds and be told what to do then I'm picking that one is the dumb one

You should be doing explosive jumping and loaded carries/sprints too. Only retarded SS manlets strength "athletes" think otherwise.

>posts one hit on stationary small opponent
wow fugg I'm impressed
there's bigger than him on the rugby field that's for sure

Yeah and every position in football is this. Wr vs. db. Tackle vs. de. Qb vs. safeties. Etc. Every play you are setting your opponent up for a deception on the next or three plays down the road etc.

The point is that this applies to every sport, and I don't see a compelling argument that it does moreso in football

good post

>what are sport specific measures of strength
You insipid fucking troglodyte, just because the NFL has chosen some metrics of strength that are useful towards determining the genetic potential/ raw explosiveness of a candidate does not mean that they are the end all be all of performance metrics.
I could just as easily use the stats which olympic throwers or gymnasts use and then invalidate all of your fucking linemen. Or I could use basic strongmen metrics for a different measure of basic strength.
This is completely glossing over the fact that even though the combine does not necessarily test squat/clean 1rms football players will still train them among many other things, because even though the NFL puts them through a combine which has questionable efficacy towards determining who will actually be an effective player, the only thing which is truly sport specific to football is playing the fucking game.

At any rate the argument which you're putting forth is that an average gym goer would be destroyed by a top level athlete who most likely has 100-150 pounds on them and many more years worth of training. Which is correct, but so fucking self explanatory that I do not understand why you would state that unless you wanted to get easy (you)s, or felt a need to justify your own lack of progress and to change the standards used to something which you could better compete in.

Boxing

>elite athletes on an insane amount of roids are stronger than you

Wow OP, that really made me think. Do you think that world class powerlifters could maybe outlift us too?
To be serious, what they measure isn't necessarily a good representation of what they train. Powerlifters do a lot more than just squats, deads and bench press.

>taking the b8

But everything they do is to get better at wide half squats backbreakers...i mean deads and bent back/fat gut bench pressing.
The only strength based "sport" that's even slightly comparrable to football is strong man.
And none of them would survive on the line very long.

graceful

Tennis

t. David Foster Wallace

Inbreeding, country food, steroids

Because it's that plus the extra layers of the most complex team tactics, strategies, and communications.

I think you should maybe re-read my post.

You get that to bait people you need to do more than make yourself look dumb, right?

A coach deciding set plays one after the other isn't team tactics, strategies, and communications, none of the athletes themselves are engaging in strategy and tactics, while I can appreciate the intricacies of set plays, and the options that they open up in a game, and I can appreciate the game of chess being played between the playmakers, a game in which you stop and reset over and over, and have plays laid out to you isn't something that captures my attention, and it is not a particularly cerebral exercise for the players

gonna cause a lot of shit...
boxing is a pretty smart sport
it really is like a chess match inside the ring
>inb4 video of old boxers with slurred speeches
yeah fuck off

>aggressive bouncing
Not comparable to a powerlift. He's a strong footballer, not a strong powerlifter.
Also,
>naturally
kek

This is retarded. Endurance doesn't even come into play until you go well over 20 reps. Until then, just throw 70% of your 1rm on the bar and you'll get 12 reps almost every time. Just look at tom platz, 525 for 23 reps and the dude was just strong and conditioned. Probably never trained squats at over 20 reps and the majority of his work was likely in the 8-12 range.

hunting

>ywn bench 700lb in the most un-legit, spotter-assisted way possible while all your bois holler and woop for you regardless
why even lift

Definitely not basketball I call that a game for mental midgets. There are no great plays in basketball like there are in football.

>rugby players at my gym
olympic lifts, heavy squats/deads, box jumps, explosive power, perfect form
>gridiron players at my gym
meme shit and some wild ego benching

strike another one for the sport they play in heaven

youtube.com/watch?v=5Bqrh04aHmU

Holy fug. This guy is unassailable.

Literally what?

youtube.com/watch?v=efB1gNszf3U

when will you all learn America is just better.

Baseball clearly

Reminder that NFL players' bodies are wrecked has-beens by age like, 32, and most people want to be healthy for their whole lives.

Awesome paydays though, while it lasts.

Hockey. It all happens so very fast when you're on ice. At one point, idiots had a role, but those days are long gone.