/OURGIRL/ wit da massive tits Calls vegans a cult

She is pretty much a square looking body with tits

that shoulder to waist ratio is bad

Hijacking thread because it's shit anyway
Guys, I really want to be vegan, I really do.
I've completely cut out milk, cheese, honey, eggs, whey, and of course all meat.
Please find me a vegan food that does this. If there is one, I'll switch tomorrow.
>Pic related
Costs pennies and contains:
-B12
-D
-omega 3
-1 scoop protein
It's literally the perfect package to add to a vegan diet, plugging all the holes you would need supplements for (the alternative is 4 supplements)

Veeky Forums, all I can tell you, is this:

1. Relevant background: I'm 52 years old
>inb4 grandpa, what are you doing on Veeky Forums, how sad, gtfo my Veeky Forums, etc etc etc DEAL WITH IT, there's more old(er) guys on Veeky Forums than you'd believe, deal with it, okay?
2. I'm an omnivore, have been my entire life.
3. That means I eat meat and dairy, every single day, in various quantities. I also eat whole grains, vegetables, fruits, and nuts. Omnivore!
4. I *used* to be fat (>300pounds) and in shit shape. Not anymore, athletic, on a bike racing team, lots of lower body muscle
>inb4 giving me shit about 'cardio killing gains', 'bicyles are for fags', or whatever other bullshit you want to waste time posting
5. Doctor LOVES me, LDLs are low, HDLs are high, bodyfat is low (around 10% or less all year 'round), not diabetic, no heart disease, no cancer, no NOTHING, healthy as a proverbial horse.
6. I've personally known vegans. They all seem to have mental problems of one sort or another. Might be malnutrition (there's some evidence emerging to support that)
7. Even rational Vegans will admit it's a MORAL choice, not a HEALTH choice, and educated Vegans (yes, there are some, believe it or not) will admit that you can't have *optimal* health being Vegan.
8. Veganism is extremism, and extremism is, overall, *bad*.
9. I firmly believe that the evidence supporting humans being evolved to be omnivores is correct and will stand by that.
10. It's sad that we have to kill animals in order to feed ourselves properly, but animals kill other animals to survive and be healthy, so you have to be pragmatic about some things. Otherwise you're not being rational, and that's bad.

Vegans will refute all the above with their usual arguments, most of which (vis-a-vis the video OP posted) are not strictly factually honest in one way or another -- and therefore I disregard them. I recommend you do the same.

>8. Veganism is extremism, and extremism is, overall, *bad*.
I'm with you in everything except this. It can get far more extreme than veganism. Like breatharians, for example

Relatively speaking, Veganism is an 'extreme lifestyle choice', though. Remember that it's much more than just a diet, it's an entire (extreme) philosophy, and to be quite honest I'd estimate at least 95% of all so-called 'Vegans' cheat on it in one way or another, because the world is not geared towards it.

recover from what?

>HOW WILL VEGANS EVER RECOVER
They never could
Not the strangest thing the cult has spawned
>chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/07/vegetarianism-and-veganism-best.html
>mentalfloss.com/article/32042/corn-flakes-were-invented-part-anti-masturbation-crusade
>chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/07/vegetarianism-and-veganism-are-as.html

1. sure, I doubt that anyway since the rest of your arguments sits on this and I'm sure you are 18 years old.
2. just like most people
3. Great, all omnivores dont eat dairy so you are an omnivore baby
4. wonderful
5. great, that happens once you lose weight and stay lean, specially as a young person who does not sit on his ass all day. Less 10% bodyfat is not "great", sorry. Lets see what happens once you really get 52 years old or 60 years old.
6. You seem to have some mental problems aswell
7. Ah man, why did i read that post. Do some research first why eating a whole plant based diet is much more beneficial to any other diet.
8. You are nothing but a child, not even able to understand the situation you are in. Keep on eating shit meat and call people who dont consume dead flesh "extremist".
9. Good lad, being omnivore does not mean eating 70% of your diet from animals but good luck with that.
10. "Have to kill animals" lol, animals kill other animals because they have to survive or they are carnivores. They also keep the population of other animals low while you are going to the grocery store to pick up dead caged animal flesh.

Your arguments are simply shit, and i had more time I would fucking murder your whole "rational" inferior argument basis.

You know what.. i dont care. Eat eggs, milk and meat and see where it gets you. Good luck.

Wow, I knew I'd get some heat from the Vegans/bait posters, but I never thought I'd piss some Vegan off so bad that (s)he'd write all that. You must be *really* angry. Well, you know what they say: if you're pissing off the competition, you know you're doing something right. I'm sure you'll be muttering to yourself the rest of the day over everything I had to say, and I have to admit that warms my heart a little. Have a nice day, user. Go eat a bushel of raw broccoli, or whatever it is you Vegan extremists do to make yourself feel better.

>let me write angrily about how angry you are

hahahahahah what the fuck is this pasta?

>Do some research first why eating a whole plant based diet is much more beneficial to any other diet.
>This level of projection and not doing yourself what you just told someone to.
>Eat eggs, milk and meat and see where it gets you.
Better health and gains
>chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2014/10/the-simplicity-of-dieting-it-really-is.html
>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3529694/#!po=57.9365
>ajcn.nutrition.org/content/42/1/127
>breakingmuscle.com/healthy-eating/why-all-humans-need-to-eat-meat-for-health
>suppversity.blogspot.com/search?q=eggs
>jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/189529
>bmj.com/content/346/bmj.e8539

No, I wont think about what you said on this thread because all your arguments are weak and I have to deal with much better thought arguments then your gibberish.

I'm so sorry for you. I feel bad now.

>he cataloged 39 different symptoms of a person plagued by masturbation, including general infirmity, defective development, mood swings, fickleness, bashfulness, boldness, bad posture, stiff joints

Hahahah, what a fucking quack.

>, fondness for spicy foods

OH SHIT, HE FOUND ME OUT.

Oysters or mussles. Yes you read right, in fact this same vegan bitch has good arguments for why those are vegan "in spirit" even if they technically aren't: youtube.com/watch?v=IK_tZ7sTwrI

Basically, they have no brain or CNS and are sustainable to grow so basically plant made out of meat. I've never heard a good vegan counter-argument, apart from "well you could be wrong maybe!"

Personally, I eat a pack of mussles almost every day and I'm 100% vegan apart from that. It's a tiny compromise to make in order to be completely sure you don't cuck yourself or fuck your health. And it may just be my mind playing games on me, but I feel way better than when I just was a vegan.

Oh shit forgot about those. You're a lifesaver, thanks
How do I even cook them? Sardines are easy, I just open the can. Those would probably stink up my tiny ass room, wouldn't they? How do you prepare them?

I don't care

6. Anedoctal and your personal opinion. Nice but I don't care. You are lying about the mental health problems of vegans and there is NO concrete evidence for that.
7. Yes, it's ultimatley a moral choice with some potential environmental and health benefits IF done right. You are lying about optimal health being impossible; you can supplement everything you don't get from meat and dairy, and the body doesn't care whether it's a supplement or comes from an animal. In fact lots of nutrients in animals come from supplements the animals are given.
8. This is retarded. Firstly it is only "extreme" in relation to your own beliefs and not inherently so. Secondly, stating that extremism is "always bad" is just stupid. I mean, would you suggest I cheat on my wife because being "extremely" loyal and faithful is bad? That I worship Satan once in a while because being "extremely" pious to my faith in Christ is bad? And so on. You're making up your own, lame, definition of "extreme" and running off on a dumb tangent is what I'm saying. It's a god-damn DIET where you eat TOFU instead of pork, it's not "extreme".
9. True, but naturalistic fallacy. There is no reason to suppose that "being evolved" to do something means that thing is good or vice verse. We evolved to do lots of things; neither using the Internet or trying to become super fucking ripped where among them and yet here we are.
10. You're not jut an animal, you're a rational human being. You don't get do justify killing to eat "because animals do it" more than you can use the same rationale for throwing your shit at people who upset you. You don't get to base your behaviour on what wild animals without rationality do and then decide that doing so is "rational". That's the opposite of rational, it's giving in to animal impulses.

Besides if you think you "have to kill" and that it's "sad", why not minimise the harm done? Like, eat a can of tuna every day and be vegan apart from that or something.

Idk, I buy them smoked and eat them out of the can. Can't stomach it any other way.
Yup they stink a bit and the wifey hates that, but she likes the deep dicking they cause later... seriously, mussles and oysters boost libido.

>1800% RDA zinc per can of non sentient animal food
Dayum
They're really low on omegas though (for seafood)

consider this: you're a fag

-b12 tablet or fortified foods (plants milks etc)
-d3 tablet or fortified foods or leave the basement every once in a while
-flax fucking seeds, 2 tablespoons a day
-protein, eat more legumes

>-b12 tablet
One supplement
>-d3 tablet
Two supplements
>or leave the basement every once in a while
Nordic masterrace, what sun?
>-flax fucking seeds, 2 tablespoons a day
ALA converts to DHA at about a 1% rate, you should supplement. Just because your favourite vegan blogger only talks about B12 doesn't mean everything else is in order
>-protein, eat more legumes
If I eat only legumes (fuckton of volume by the way) I barely reach my protein requirements. But you gotta have some pasta, oats, rice, potatoes and fruit. Can't eat peas 24/7.

if you choose the tablets, then yes, that's indeed two supplements.

ala to dha conversion is upregulated if you don't eat any dha. but even at 1% conversion 2 tablespoons will meet your rda, do the math.

eat more calories. if you want to be actually healthy you should be physically active every day for a couple of hrs anyway, and you'll easily burn of any excess. i meantain weight on 3500 kcal and im not even big

sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0163782715000223

>sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0163782715000223
Dude, it's the brain we're talking about. I'm not gonna gamble on a conversion rate that may or may not be inefficient. Yes a cow's life is more important than my taste pleasure. No, a sardine's life or an oyster's "life" aren't more important than making sure I'm getting the proper nutrition
>Just get a supplement then
And when you have kids, what will you tell them? To start swallowing pills from age 0 like grandma does, or to just eat wholesome, hearty food?

>Dude, it's the brain we're talking about. I'm not gonna gamble on a conversion rate that may or may not be inefficient.
If you're worried I think you can get a test for efficiency of conversion, but after reading the article I linked you shouldn't be very worried. Even with very low conversion

is she dare i say it /ourjew/ ?

sorry, no kikess will ever be /ourgirl/

>some mentally ill people are vegan
>all vegans are mentally ill
logic checks out

Yeah I know I still sup with omegas just to be on the safe side.

>Nordic masterrace
Then take supplements! Jesus there ain't enough vitamin D in food to cover your needs, unless you eat foritified foods (which are just food + supplement) if you're up North. Haven't you heard scandi doctors recommend it to literally everyone during winter times??

Why do feminist SJW types always have big tits and fuckable bodies sometime. even though i hate feminists, im considering converting to feminism so i can fuck em

She reminds me of that creepy white liberal girlfriend of the main character in Get Out

anyone got a pic of her tits, even covered?

>Always sometimes

>There's nothing inherently wrong with supplements. Most supplements are shit, some are ok, some are better than actual food alternatives. That's reality. It's a romantic idea that the very best thing is always just "wholesome" foods, but it's not true. If you make intelligent consistent choices and you educate your children, they'll never have problems
>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5188422/
Shame your IQ could potentially have been higher if you didn't gimp yourself.

I get your viewpoint on supplements but I prefer whole food mostly because it's the "normal" thing to do.
And I would really rather play safe and make sure I get DHA from food
Well there is enough if you eat meat all day desu
Not that I've checked but the average person eats meat, doesn't supplement and isn't deficient
Dunno, I get a bit from soymilk and a bit from whatever seafood I end up buying but if I start feeling tired despite that I might supplement after all

The only source you gave that should be trusted (because it's a peer reviewed study that was not dumbed down by a journalist) is the ncbi link and the only thing it describes is that vegans might have a problem with protein intake because the biological value of protein in soy is 74 compared to eggs and whey powder which are around 100-104, but also ignoring the fact that meat and chicken (probably your main source of protein) is only around 80, barely better than soy and going further, soy powder has a biological value of 96, almost as good as eggs and whey protein powder. Also, about 40-70% of your protein probably already come from non-animal sources of food. If you're really that concerned about protein availability, just increase your protein intake. Not like it's hard with seitan and soy and pea powder.

Did you even read the study you linked?

>And I would really rather play safe and make sure I get DHA from food
If you won't budge on this point, then you can't eat a plant based diet

Did you? Or did you just jump to the conclusion?

Quoted from the study you posted:
>The vegetarian diet can be sustainable at all stages of life and in all physiological conditions, including infancy, pregnancy, lactation, senescence and sports [13]. Compared to non-vegetarians, vegetarians have reduced body mass index (BMI), serum cholesterol, serum glucose and blood pressure with a lower mortality rate due to ischemic heart disease (IHD) [17,204]

Was this supposed to be a counter point?
>vegans live longer, have a lower risk for chd and heart disease, they're not obese but hey, how about de b12, eh?

>Handing out free (You)s to shitposters

MOMMY

I read most studies related to vegan nutrition when they come out.

Please point out to part that says that despite adequate supplementation and blood levels of b12, a vegan diet results in a lower IQ

I can't help myself, sorry

>However, despite the use of fortified foods, deficiency over a period of five years could occur, demonstrating a continuing insufficient intake or a possible decline in the absorptive capacity due to aging

How does this relate to a vegan diet though? Yes, if you have insufficient intake and you don't periodically check blood levels, you'll have problems.
B12 absorbtion in old age is potential a problem for everyone, vegans and non-vegans.

You claim that a magical undetectable b12 deficiency has stunted my brain development is not supported by this study at all

GIB MILKIES NOW

So you're going to periodically get your children to get bloods taken, I legit feel bad for you and your two girls, hopefully they'll get fucked by a normal guy when they grow up and he shows them the light.

I have a fetish for big tit feminists. any porn for that?

>So you're going to periodically get your children to get bloods taken
Um, yes? This is an essential part of detecting hundreds of health problems in time, allowing prompt and effective treatment. Everyone should have at least yearly blood tests done

>im considering converting to feminism so i can fuck em

most feminists are ugly as shit, and you'll find better tits on better girls.

But if you really just want to fuck feminists, the worst move you could make is to become a male feminist. They love to hatefuck even more than regular girls.

>Everyone should have at least yearly blood tests done
I legit doubt your IQ claims now. Why stick to blood tests why not have regular MRIs as well after all you can detect those pesky tumours early?

This is funny because MRIs are actually even lower risk than blood tests, so really the only downside of regular MRIs would be the cost

>Are you sick? why would you want to find out if anything's wrong with your or your children's bodies.
Taking an hour or two out of your day once a year to confirm you're okay should be priority over shitposting on the internet, if you care about your health.

youtube.com/watch?v=QdTc2Gv52uI
>vegans
weak as fuck lmao

yeah I bang feminist types sometimes and I'm always not PC and masculine on purpose when I talk to them (playfully though)

most women just want to be banged by masculine men, it's not a secret

skipped thorugh the video and didnt see tits on display once. This is advertising trash, go suck a fat cock slut.

And the lack of need for it? And the fact that it will delay actual patients displaying symptoms? Do you also want to get PRs at your age? Were your parents surgeons since they're the only specialties outside of GPs that will request stupid shit for no reason.

>Confirm that i'm healthy when i'm not displaying symptoms i'll subject my kids to needles and MRIs
I legit hope you're trolling now.

Eat mussles and oysters and other bivales like another user suggested. Apparently a great source of vitamin D:

clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT02982525
Yeah I mean a "problem" that can be solved by adding an extra scoop of protein powder isn't really a problem, it's a shitty excuse.

>But if you really just want to fuck feminists, the worst move you could make is to become a male feminist. They love to hatefuck even more than regular girls.
Confirmed as 100% accurate.

What do you mean by lack of need? Blood tests are highly effective at detecting disease for the time and cost. Most doctors will recommend regular blood tests.

Doing MRIs randomly is an absolutely terrible way of detecting disease for the time and cost required, unless you're checking for a specific kind of problem in one specific area of the body. I'm guessing you know zero about MRI technology, so I'm not going to go into this further, there's no point

Dad is a cardiologist, Mom lab technician

>What do you mean by lack of need? Blood tests are highly effective at detecting disease for the time and cost. Most doctors will recommend regular blood tests
Who? Post source let's see where it's recommended to get regular bloods.
I'm guessing you have zero knowledge about MRI's clearly mommy didn't teach you.

I'm sorry I don't think I can help you with this any further

>not displaying symptoms
Most symptoms of deficiencies are very subtle, but could still stunt growth or mental capacity of a child. They only become noticeable once it's come to a very late stage where it's actually dangerous. Same with other blood markers that can pick up problems long before they are actually bad and can help you solve them before it ever becomes a real problem. Also, are you afraid of needles or something? They're really not that bad and I never hated them as a kid. Yeah, it's a little uncomfortable, but kids are put through a lot of unenjoyable stuff on their way to becoming adults. Why would 1 blood test once a year be that bad? Also, MRIs are out of the question anyways because they're way too expensive.

TL;DR:
>who cares if my children don't get all their nutrients during childhood which could damage them for life, no needles though

>Not reading, projecting and shitposting proving you didn't read even further; this much

That's fine because you literally have no evidence for getting regular bloods and it's effect on disease prevention.
For symptoms to stun growth and mental capacity you will need quite a deficiency, now what is the rate kids are getting mental and growth stunted due to inefficient diet in a first world country that it will require regular blood tests?

Yeah kids need to go through unpleasant things so fuck em right? You didn't hate them but most kids do, ask any paeds junior doctors.

>For symptoms to stun growth and mental capacity you will need quite a deficiency, now what is the rate kids are getting mental and growth stunted due to inefficient diet in a first world country that it will require regular blood tests?
Short answer: We don't know, because there are no studies on this, but it would be interesting to look into.
My opinion: I think more than we would expect what with the shitty nutrition these days. I'm pretty sure most kids are deficient in a lot of nutrients. Not gravely deficient, but enough that it could affect their mental health, maybe bodily growth, and performance in school or even motivation to do sports and other physical activity.

It's not like you're putting them through it for nothing and it's not like their suffering THAT bad when it comes to needles, also it's once a year. Do you remember how fucking long a year felt when you were a kid? They're going to feel like they almost never do blood tests, and the potential benefits to detecting thing not just deficiencies that could potentially make their life easier or even save their lives, far outweigh the bad experience of getting your blood taken once a year.

>Short answer: We don't know, because there are no studies on this, but it would be interesting to look into.
So you have nothing to base your shit on other than wanting people to go through unnecessary tests and risk false positives, waste time, money, increase waiting times and increase taxes?
How can you be sure that our diet is deficient? Especially since IQ has been increasing since the 1930's, average heights has been increasing as well.

tell me more

Lol at all the meatards that don't understand science

nice anecdote retard