Should there be an organized stoic movement in the 21st century?
Should there be an organized stoic movement in the 21st century?
Noah Anderson
Xavier Martin
Just back the church of Rome boyo, all the best parts of pagan philosophy were taken in and enhanced by her. Those serious about the philosophy of antiquity always end up in Rome, LARPers go off on some tangent
Brody Martinez
>enhanced
You mean a bunch of baggage was added on.
Lucas Russell
>rapes its children
>ivory tower bullshit that can't see anything other than power games that limits it's perspective and therefore it's modern influence
Fuck em.
Ian Miller
Stoics believed that death should not be feared, and we should release ourselves from fears to live free lives. They didn't believe in a meaningful afterlife (your soul just returns back to the logos, but your consciousness doesn't continue).
Believing death should not be feared because you are immortal is a cop out. The Stoics have the right idea.
Thomas Gonzalez
>ivory tower
Better than dark basement crackpots that only post their nonsense on anonymous image boards
Brandon Sanders
>catholic church
>has locked up large amounts of philosophical material in its basement not allowing anyone to see them
>has historically destroyed material of opposing views
>claim to be serious about philosophy
how do you live with this level of cognitive dissonance
Logan Watson
...there already is? There are hundreds of thousands, if not low millions, of declared stoics in the world. They have organised major events where people fly in and gather for presentations. As the years go on, their numbers will grow, as will the numbers of people in other pagan groups.
Nicholas Gomez
>if not low millions, of declared stoics in the world.
LOL
Eli Butler
It already exists...
Carson Howard
[spoiler]Jordan Peterson's self-help advice is just slightly diluted stoicism[/spoiler]
Aaron Diaz
>Jordan"muh ISRAEL" Peterson
literally another attention seeking shill faggot
definitely not a Stoic
Jordan Moore
Peterson is a mix of stoicism, Christian mythology, neitzche, and buddhism.
He's also a crypto-atheist.
Colton Anderson
god can you /pol/ fags fuck off, they have a board for you to be as anti-semitic and moronic as you like. But yet you still keep coming here
Brayden Price
he's a crypto-nigger is what he is
Joshua Smith
An organized movement would be disgusting, if you're a stoic, keep your philosophy for yourself, don't circle jerk and read Pierre Hadot
Nicholas Gomez
>keep your philosophy for yourself,
They literally taught classes on this. That's what Epictetus was doing.
Joshua Phillips
Yeah in ancient Athens where you could go outside and start a philosophy school by arguing with some dude in the street.
In a modern society such thing can't exist and any "movement" on a large scale would be as disgusting as a political party.
Nathan Miller
He taught elites in Nicropolis. THese are guys who were the sons of land owners and other elites. It was just part of education back then.
Cicero's On Duties was part of Uni education in the West for millennia.
Jacob Collins
Church of Rome came after and jsut copied all the good ideas from the Greeks and Romans. So why not just go back to the originals and bypass the guys who hijacked it for their own ends and added stupid shit?
Zachary Walker
>punch a stoic
>he doesn't punch back
>cuck a stoic
>he does nothing
Tyler Bailey
Stoics aren't pacifists. They'll defend themselves. Aurelius is a Stoic Saint, yet he was Emperor of Rome, and led the Roman forces in the Macromanic wars.
Brayden Harris
are you an idiot?
If you punch a stoic once then stop attacking him and walk away he has no reason to hit back? it's not defending himself since the threat is gone?
Dylan Lopez
They're big on justice. They'll try talking to your or report you to the police.
They're /m/ tier UNDERSTANDING, but not pacifists. They just don't believe people should be driven by emotional outbursts.
Oliver Hill
>All the best parts of pagan philosophy
Like burning witches and fucking children. Totally enhanced.
>The philosophy of antiquity
>Catholicism
You pagan faggots are disgusting
Julian Lopez
take out Nietzsche, buddhism and stoicism
Juan Moore
Yes
t. Stoic
Ethan Green
>burning witches
>pagans
Aren't pagans the witches in y'all's minds?
Adrian Peterson
>Dude, do what i say or fear eternal punishment
Jonathan Jones
I certainly think that there should be an organised Neo-Hellenistic religious body that includes Stoicism as part of its core philosophy.
That said, I do not think that it would be something that would be popular outside of east asian nations that already have some degree of cultural familiarity with Confucianism.
I can not really see the atomised, selfish, childish people that comprise most of modern western society readily accepting ideas of self discipline, self sacrifice, civic virtue and (non-corporate/new age) spiritual-naturalism.
Galileans belong on a cross.