Veeky Forums social gains thread

it depends on the person you're talking with.

charm and social skills arent something where simple rules like "always let her talk" apply to everyone or even most people. you have to read the subcontext and develop your own style

I like to think none of us do that IRL though, then again I could be wrong.

>about to give some sort of advice or console you in some way
>2D
The absolute state of Veeky Forums.

If you vent on Veeky Forums because it feels good venting to real people is even better. If you ask questions about herself she'll never run out of things to talk about. Good or bad

>she seems autistic as fuck
>not recognizing the tsundere archetype when it is slapped across your face
>he even says 2D
>not getting understanding it is a joke
>posting with Reddit spacing
Waiting for the inevitable "I was just pretending" response.

Me and this girl have decent social chemistry, we're friends but i want to fuck so i'm going to make my move and ask her to fuck this friday after the concert

Telling 4ch I am a pathetic loser who wants to khs is met with people responding in kind, you realize you aren't the only one and feel slightly better about fucking up your life.

Doing the same IRL results me getting ghosted.

If you meet a girl you're not immediately telling her you want to die because your waifu isn't real. Everyone has an encounter with depression. You can say you've had thoughts of despair and she'll respond in kind

Unless I am very close to the person in question, i.e. their SO, family or very close friend, then I don't want to hear about their shit.
Negativity isn't fun to be around.

The idea should go both ways. Conversations are mutual, so it should be each party remaining interested in the other's words.

Talking about only yourself is a sure sign of a narcissistic fuck to either person.

I still kind of feel like love is an immature concept based on insecurity.
Not for everyone, but certainly for me - going back through my past relationships and thinking about what I felt and when I felt it, it seems quite clear to me that I, personally, don't have a healthy way of experiencing love.

Social gains are fucking hard. I'd rather come off as an untalkative creep than an autistic sperg. Small talk is so shit and I almost always have to repeat myself.

I've lost 100lbs and I'm in the best shape of my life but still can't converse normally. My job requires me to talk to people and I still somehow fuckup outside of work. I just blank out and don't know what to say, or if I have a question it comes off as awkward.

good luck user get straight to the point and dont keep messaging her about it the day before

There is nothing wrong here, she is just being boring as fuck and also plays her supply-demand card.
Drop and text something new, rinse and repeat.

Tbh, I think that was pretty clever. nohomo

there's a middle ground between untalkative creep and autistic sperg. also, don't worry too much about being "awkward" because people don't care that much. I realized this when I was talking to a girl and was proud of myself for not saying anything weird. then later I realized they said a TON of awkward shit and I didn't even notice or care. if you say something "awkward" and end up cringing about it for a week the other person probably doesn't even remember what you said.

Thanks that might be helpful. I just need to talk a little louder.

>Social gains are fucking hard
Are you gonna be the pussy that gives up?

But I meant should I be talking mainly about her or try to keep it 50/50 by using statments to relate to her

No I'm just going to fail 1000x till my shame disappears. It's going to be pure suffering.

Lol is this satire

>being the vent bitch

bahahahahahaha

this is exceptionally funny
>exmormon here

That's the joke

I'm out of school and not old enough to go to clubs. Where can I meet girls?

See a shrink if you want to vent.

Normal people dislike that shit. Especially girls. They may put on a kind face but inside they go like "be quiet, stop, go away".

Just insult her in a funny way and flirt with her friends.

nobody likes being vented at

Tinder.

Social gains are not hard.

The hardest part is courting a girl or building up to taking a girl out, just to be let down and then trying again. Fuck is draining.

well done lad

>It's in Dale Carnegies book and I recommend all the anons here to read it.
Was about to make the same comment. If you're the typical Veeky Forums user and read the book you won't understand how you ever functioned before.

Read his book if you wanna learn how to be a beta cuck, I suppose

You've supposed wrong, an entire section of the book is about getting people to do what you want without realizing it.

Why doesn't Stacy bend over for you? Convince her the dirt at her feet is worth something and she will.

>says social gains arn't hard
>says the easiest part is hard

>he thinks only talking about other people will make people like him
its a sure fire way to make you look dumb and uninteresting

Don't just stand there and listen like a fucking plant. Engage the other person and make sure what they're saying is something they care about. If you continue to direct the convo towards the calculus class you're both in she'll get bored yeah but you can ask a girl how her day went and she'll give you a 30 min spiel about something she actually gives a shit about

>but you can ask a girl how her day went and she'll give you a 30 min spiel about something she actually gives a shit about
and thus you sit there listening to shit you don't want to hear about

this is especially bad if you are versed in a topic and thus asking questions will just make you seem dumb

>What did the 1 say to the 10?
Lol

I'm glad dating dudes is so much easier.

>you sit there listening to shit you don't want to hear about
Of course not, if the other person has nothing to offer you then walk away.

>this is especially bad if you are versed in a topic and thus asking questions will just make you seem dumb
If you can't figure out how to ask an appropriate question to continue a conversation then you need lessons in math and logic not interpersonal skills

once you start talking about yourself and making statements you are by definition not talking about her

I'll tldr the book for everyone. People always have a reason in doing/feeling something, and by looking at a situation in the other persons shoes, it is not too difficult to win their trust.

Notice details about people and their lives, give genuine compliments, there is a certain way in criticizing people, emphasize peoples strengths and praise them for it. etc.

honestly the book is about 80% anecdotes, u can go to the back and theres a list of all the important messages

I have a generally interesting life because I've moved around a lot and traveled to a bunch of places. I have family all over the world and shit so I have a lot to talk about and normally girls don't mind listening and it makes me more interesting to them so idgaf. Most girls are boring as shit and talk about pretty stupid things, sometimes you can catch a good conversation.
I guess talk about yourself if you have something to talk about otherwise listen to a bitch drone on about nothing so she feels special.

top kek

leave then

I never said you had to do that. It's only good to talk about oneself if you can use it to elicit some kind of empathy or reinforce what they already believe.

The anecdotes are valuable because it better shows how you can apply the methods described to your own life.

the reason straight blokes jack off faster to gay porn is because it is something extrinsic and un-navigated territory their brain is full of excitement

you speak the truth user
(u)

Dammit I thought 2D was some type of metaphor or something to describe her. Realize what it is literal.

Top kek though.

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>oneitis ive been after for years rejects me
>he gets together with Veeky Forums oneitis, who he has been pursuing for years
>we three hang around for a few months, get blazed, lounge around in church parking lots, what have you
>im always calling her names, pedophile, fat(she's anorexic i think? whatever), while he's always pampering her as best he can, tells me he's spent $3000 on her in few months he's been here
>one day she confesses to me
>mfw he's actually using the word NTR the next day, asking me not to do it do him

there is no better feeling

Talk about her then reward and relate

For example:
>So did you like The Dark Knight
>"Yeah teehee"
>Cool, I loved that film too, you actually have good taste *gives high five*

is it safe to assume if im getting aroused in a conversation that she's aroused and feeling chemistry also?

Lol i tricked u xppp

Xd

Holy shit
How do I into Mormon forearms?

>Mormon

Go on bumble OP, you'll realize that girls are just as shitty as you at initiating. Forcing them to make the first move throws them off their usual modus operandi. I've had much more success on there than tinder.

>She seems autistic as fuck.

You don't have to follow all of the advice in a book, y'know. Read Machiavelli's The Prince and then 48 Laws of Power afterwards if you want the real influence redpill.

>>Cool, I loved that film too, you actually have good taste *gives high five*
Wew lad

Autism