Eat more salt

eat more salt

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No thanks, my blood pressure is high enough.

sounds like a salt deficiency

>2300mg, or about 5.7g of salt per day
stopped listening right there

I didn't watch the video because I don't care to. I will say that this instinctively caused me to take a huge gulp of aqua vita

Went into this skeptical but god damn I can't argue the facts, I'll do some legwork on the citations but this was relatively educational and has made me change my mind on my dietary habits.

Eat less salt

youtube.com/watch?v=f8-qkrenQr0

>trusting a jewish vegan

2300mg of sodium
1 mol NaCl has 23g Na and 35.5g Cl
0.1 mol NaCl therefore has a mass of 5.85g, of which 2.3g are Na

cmon

>the jews and the vegans want us to NOT eat salt because ???
>we should do as the salt institute says and buy more of their salt

>some mutant kid that needs seawater for blood is evidence i should take more salt
i'm gonna up my salt intake tho

I'm going to suck down a packet of soy sauce and see if this salt shit is any good for post-workout insomnia, hold tight

Go away you unscientific retard.

raypeat.com/articles/articles/salt.shtml

Salt decreases Cortisol and reduces hypertension. That's not news at all IF you read the studies instead of falling for every new fad the "scientists" cook up.

Salt abode 2g /day make me feel like shit , perform like shit , and look like shit ,it's shit , salt's only purpose is to retain water & other minerals , I'm not a retard who eat only 50% of his RDA potassium & magnesium so I don't need to drink salt like a fucking retard

Is this what happens when you don't drink enough water?

Reminder this (((man))) is only 44 but looks 74. Jewish genetics and veganism folks.

So now I'm sure you are getting paid by that idiot to post his poorly researched bias videos. This has been posted 3x in the last 2 days by your ID.

Kinda sad that we have sellouts like you on this board. Pls fuck off and do his 1 meal a day keto diet shit.

Daily reminder to drink more water buddeh

I thought this was bullshit till I saw Tom Cruise is in it. Now I'm a believer.

>unscientific
>uses scientific data to reinforce the mainstream view that high sodium intake is bad

>trusting a jewish with anything that isn't economics

Bs, a lot of salt is irrelevant if you focus on the type of salt and the mineral content, fuck tablesalt, get a high quality sea salt and rock salt to deliver the minerals and elements in the ocean as well as the land

>BS
>goes on to spout bullshit about different kinds of salt

All salt is sea salt. It's all NaCl. Just because a gypsy told you their expensive pink salt had 100 different minerals in it doesn't mean it's a significant source of anything besides sodium.

Post less Greger

>he's not wrong, I just hate the guy

you're a stupid person my dude

You're the one who fell for sea salt "delivering minerals and elements in the ocean" you dumb fuck

tfw i ordered 2 kg of himalayan sea salt after watching this video yesterday.

He's wrong and I hate the guy.

>He's wrong

Alright, let's hear why

Salt is any ionic company involving neutralization of an acid and base you uneducated fishmonger

At least that should last you for a few years I guess.

Memes aside, what is the conclution here?

His whole channel is very good. he's done stuff on porn / keto / fasting / fats / sugars / etc

>American
>not getting too much salt

pick one

yeah i'm researching salt right now...
dont know what to believe anymore.
But since salt is an essential micronutrient....
I'll go with more salt instead of less.

Don't fall for videos that tell you to do the opposite of what every health expert says.

it's better to consume more than you need than it is to consume less than you need, so stop restricting how much you consume

Bonus: it tastes good :D

What if the amount you need is so small that you're not in danger of not getting enough, but the amount that's too much is so easy to get that unrestricting your intake puts you way over?

Salt is fine or even needed if you do cardio and work out a decent amount. Just drink plenty of water (which you should already be doing) and get other electrolytes as well like potassium and magnesium.

did you even watch the video? you'll autoregulate how much you consume based on your needs, and your kidneys can get rid of any extra you consume anyway.

He misinterprets studies, posts no name journal ones and essentially does anything to sell his snake oil.
>inb4 muh money goes to charity
It's his own.
Also as a person that did 4 months in cardiology doctor rotation I can't take anybody with so little knowledge that would say end stage heart failure can be cured with a vegan diet. Only idiots and lazy people (since a whole website exists to show you how to analyse studies) who want an echo chamber follow him anyway.

This is BS. I get maybe 400mg of sodium a day all from my diet, not from processed foods nor tablesalt. I run 3 hours a day with lots of sweating and my vitals are great.

Obviously not, as it causes blood pressure to rise

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22048126
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2573761

Empty criticisms and personal attacks. Show how he's wrong.

>I run 3 hours a day with lots of sweating and my vitals are great.

Only people who don't exercise should care about this "too much sodium" thing anyway

t. not same user

>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22048126
It does so during the meal time.
>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2573761
The people already have hypertension, people with heart disease should not consume high amounts salt a healthy adult is not one. There is no link between salt and hypertension.

you can go dig up as much jew studies as you want. the facts remain the same.

salt is essential.

also the masses are wrong most of the time.
masses believe salt is bad.
so I'll eat salt.

>reduced salt intake
>blood pressure lowered
>re-introduced salt
>blood pressure rose again linearly with the amount of salt

What would it take to convince you that salt is directly related to hypertension?

I don't need to show anything you're an idiot plain and square I've had discussions with you in 4-5 different threads and you even tried to argue with a researcher of oxidation that was literally running laps around your layman ass.

In fact I think you should apply for a study since I'm surprised how an idiot such as yourself has survived till the age of 25+ without drinking bleach yet.

>What would it take to convince you that salt is directly related to hypertension?
Show it's long term effect on a person that does not have a current heart disease.

The hypertension in that case was caused by the salt, which improved when they cut their salt intake.

And you've never made an actual point against anything he's said. You think "he's a liar" is enough of a counter-argument.

your argument sounds like a circlejerk of this board. He does not "misinterpret" studies. You can easily find the studies he mentions by looking at the title faggot. The only thing he sells is his book. I'm sure you did not even read it, right?

His charity is his own, so what? Money still goes to the charity, not to him.

>Also as a person that did 4 months in cardiology doctor rotation

Thats suppose to outweight his career?

>I can't take anybody with so little knowledge that would say end stage heart failure can be cured with a vegan diet.

It seems like you have no knowledge yourself idiot
dresselstyn.com/JFP_06307_Article1.pdf
Just fucking read it you stupid mongo

>Only idiots and lazy people

It seems like you are the idiot and the lazy one. If you are not man enough to agree when you are wrong and you are not even able to prove anything, you should reconsider your believe.

Fucking mungus

But most people mentally and physiclaly autoregulate how much salt they need and take in.
The problem is that so many foods that we have today have so much unseen and unknowable salt/sodium content that it's hard to do that.

every single processed food has salt in it. People eating more processed food, also eat way more salt then they need or their body can handle (long term).

Why are you even arguing, its obv that TOO MUCH salt/sodium is bad. His videos is just retarted and has no meaning besides confusing idiots on the internet to believe that they can eat as much salt as they want.

He is a liar.

>Thats suppose to outweight his career?
A charlatans career is a wasted one. A day would outweigh it.

>I can't take anybody with so little knowledge that would say end stage heart failure can be cured with a vegan diet.
CAD is not end stage heart failure you're a moron.
>It seems like you are the idiot and the lazy one. If you are not man enough to agree when you are wrong and you are not even able to prove anything, you should reconsider your believe.

Seems I struck a nerve. Don't worry we'll still save your life no matter how stupid you are.

>He is a liar.

So make a counter-argument showing this.

>CAD is not end stage heart failure you're a moron.

...

>CAD is not end stage heart failure you're a moron
reversing heart failure is also not what he claims. where did you even hear that?

Can't be arsed to do so again especially when I have given up on educating you, look up the previous tuna thread in the archives,I commented on all the studies he posted had nothing to do to link fish to any of his claims.

All I can find is that he says "All of those who followed the diet experienced significant improvement, in some cases actual reversal of near end-stage heart disease."

nutritionfacts.org/topics/dr-caldwell-esselstyn/

fucking mongo

>look up the previous tuna thread in the archives
why dont you do it yourself, you know best it seems like.

The 25+ vegan kid that posts here said the guy had a grandma who had 6 months to live due to end stage heart failure and thanks to a vegan diet she has lived 31 years, sorry I mean YEARS! because capitalizing words mid sentence makes you more credible.

No..too much salt for long periods is bad.
And like I said, people autoregulate things that they need. I have yet to see someone who eats only homecooked self prepared foods just LOAD UP on the salt just because they think they can.

The preprocessesd foods HIDE the salt content so that they can force people to drink or eat more. Most people don't know they are consuming too much salt and that it is injuring their internal organs.
They simply have no clue that they're eating too much salt.
If they are given a glass of water and a piece of meat and salad with equivalent of the salt in the average soda and processed food sat next to them in a bowl...do you think they'll just pour that salt onto their food and into their water?

No.

>Can't be arsed
Already told you where to look.

But she did live another 31 years...wtf are you on about?

>again

As if you've ever made a valid criticism.

This is a thread about the effect of high sodium intake on blood pressure and general health. It is entirely mainstream to accept that salt raises blood pressure and completely on the fringe to pretend otherwise. This isn't "dr. greger vs the world" this is the world vs. gullible fucks who want to believe whatever they like eating is good for them. All greger does in that video is explain the mainstream side and debunk the claims of the idiots.

so what is it now?

Eat more salt or eat less salt?
I don't eat processed food.

Refer to being a moron.
>As if you've ever made a valid criticism.
Sorry is that because I didn't speak in your language.
Don't worry go back to that thread and add durr between every 2-3 words I'm sure that will make it valid.

Do you have heart disease at the moment? Yes control your salt intake.
No? Apply salt to your meals, it improves nutrient transport, pump and vascularity.

dont overconsume on it, simple at that. Not more then 6g of salt or 2400sodium.

His video has no value.

>Want to get heart disease in the future?
>Eat lots of salt

Eat exactly the right amount of salt

I think we can all agree this approach is retarded.

In addition to no evidence of this, add salt to your food does not mean literally empty half the oceans salt in your meal. I presume the person I'm speaking to has some common sense and taste buds.

Most food has sodium in it, there is no point to add salt to it except for taste you idiot.

If you eat a whole food diet, you may add SOME salt but not drown it in salt

>no evidence of this
what?

>Eat more salt dude it's good for you

Literally Good news about your bad habits , don't worry it's good for you man keep on salting your shit into oblivion , yes yes 5g a day , You sweated today while climbing the stair ? Lots of exercise require lots of salt dude , just open up and put harmless salt on your harmless eggs and go smoke a good harmless cigarette after :)

alrighty. I don't think I even get half a gram of salt per day if I don't actually ... put salt on the food I cook.

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what bout this doctorino saying salt is essential to good atheletic performance?

>what bout this doctorino saying salt is essential to good atheletic performance?
He's right only idiots would say otherwise. Essentially just have it to taste.

>saturated fats are good for you
>Red meat actually improves your health and disease resistance (while eating greens eat greens you mongs)
>You shouldn't eat 3 meals a day
>Salt is good for you

Everything is flipping upside down this decade but everyone is getting healthier instead of eating trash and dying from chronic disease so I am all for it.

The runner's wisdom is that you avoid salt for training, but go balls out on it for competition, and not just for long distance where you sweat it out. When science can't agree with itself, anecdata and folktales win. Salt isn't that complicated or important. It's not really worth thinking about unless you get literally none. Your body tells you what to do and it is only slightly retarded as your tastes will adapt to almost any level of salt.

What was the story with red meat? Like I understand the fats in it were bad but what was bad about it otherwise?

It's backlash from the industries affected by mainstream recommendations. Soon you'll start seeing studies saying that refined sugar and soft drinks are fine

>everyone is getting healthier
wut

thats a bait, right?

Lot's of fitness guru / booksellers / supplement sellers found out that telling people that the unhealthy thing they do is healthy bring on a LOT of money . It started with Atkin but now it's even more prevalent thanks to Internet .

I wouldn't say everyone is getting healthier with obesity rates on the rise it's more like modern medicine is managing to wipe peoples asses in a more efficient way and making them live longer.

Age of Aquarius is upon us famalfam.
the truth is coming out.
we are transforming in better people.

>it's a low carb is actually unhealthy user
figures

Besides it being higher in saturated fat, it has some other potentialy harmful compounds in it

cleveland.com/healthfit/index.ssf/2017/04/cleveland_clinic_research_show_1.html
ucdmc.ucdavis.edu/publish/news/newsroom/11551
inra.fr/en/Scientists-Students/Food-and-nutrition/All-the-news/Colon-cancer-the-role-of-red-meat

nothing in it was bad, a vegan did a study called the china study back in the 70s were he deposited a pellet of carcinogen 1/22 the size of the mouse and then force fed his mice carcinogenic food day in and out for months, the moment a small fraction of the mice got colon cancer he ran in the streets demonizing meat. Funnily enough, he had to skew his data because even though more mice on the meat diet got cancer, more of those mice lived longer than the vegan mice.

There's some good write ups and one great one with a bunch of infographs that will make you laugh at vegans, I'm too lazy to hunt it down on mobile though.

Haha, what the fuck? Do you know what the china study is?

Honestly this, the China study is not a good one at all however what the fuck is that whole story.

I meant more that people in our age cohort are realizing what's coming down the road and are jumping ship and becoming more active and cleaning their diets up.

They didn't control the studies for cured meat. Red meat is not bad for you, cured meat is bad for you. Also chemicals fed to poorly raised animals are bad for you. Organic, free range red meat. It's great.

>cured meat is bad for you

Fuuuuck I love lunch meat.