I certainly think that there should be an organised Neo-Hellenistic religious body that includes Stoicism as part of its core philosophy.
That said, I do not think that it would be something that would be popular outside of east asian nations that already have some degree of cultural familiarity with Confucianism.
I can not really see the atomised, selfish, childish people that comprise most of modern western society readily accepting ideas of self discipline, self sacrifice, civic virtue and (non-corporate/new age) spiritual-naturalism.
> can not really see the atomised, selfish, childish people that comprise most of modern western society readily accepting ideas of self discipline, self sacrifice, civic virtue and (non-corporate/new age) spiritual-naturalism. /thread
Camden Howard
religion and ethics are two different things
Gabriel Myers
You are looking for monasticism
Joseph Moore
>Dudes we fucked up our societies! Now let's fuck up East Asia!
Wh*Teoid "reasoning"
William Smith
>monasticism
Stoicism is compatible with acetic lifestyles, but it's not required of it.
Christopher Roberts
>organised >stoicism
Hunter Carter
They literally taught classes on this shit.
Ayden Kelly
>organised >stoicism
>self sacrifice
you are fucking spooked/cucked
Jose Barnes
They had entire schools devoted to teaching Stoic ideas. They had little buildings in the major cities.
Anthony Sanders
I suppose that I'm rather flattered that someone turned one of my posts into a thread. Even if I don't quite understand why.
>?? If a religion wants to have any sort of appeal, being universal in nature is simply the reality of the situation. Besides, my point is that the people in east Asian nations already live under the cultural influence of Confucianism; This would make then more inclined to be receptive to Stoic ideas then the modern westerner for who the idea of anything beyond mindless and selfish consumerism is anathema to their understanding of the world.
I'm sure you would be more at home on some embarrassing subreddit filled with snake memes.
I understand this may be quite difficult for you to process, my American friend. But if you pay very special attention to the OP, you will see that I'm talking about incorporating Stoicism into a religious body.
My suggestion is that you try not to show off your American level of reading comprehension.
Nathaniel Evans
Stoicism lines up more with Buddhism than Confucianism.
Hudson Rivera
Overall I certainly do not disagree with that (In-fact the Buddhist missionaries in the eastern mediterranean at the time of Stoicisms formation very likely had some degree of influence on it). However those similarities to Buddhism are not what I think would cause your modern, average westerner to reject Stoicism. It is the similarities to Confucianism that I believe the modern western psyche and meta-culture is simply too degenerated to accept.
Leo Clark
Sounds not too dissimilar from certain views of Christianity, OP :^]
Kevin Harris
Christians looted Greek philosophy and added a bunch of new concepts that are either unneeded or counter to stoicism.
Michael Jenkins
>We need to be more like the Ching Wing Bug people.
i don't see the need for the trappings of Hellenic culture. Stoicism can survive on its own. Through Christianity, and Alcholics Anonymous, we can see that stoic concepts are quite popular.
A stoic community can work in the real world. Small little community centers. Nothing special. Like little churches. Guiding people, social gatherings, etc.
Matthew Wilson
Our society is literally based on stoicism. You people just wanna larp as toga faggots.
Matthew Turner
Stoic ideas were influential, but we moved past them. We need to return to them.
