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You're going to make it brah.

>Recently cut off all friends. Keeps me in the house to prevent myself from blowing money on party shit
>Reduced myself to 3 beers a day and cut off liquer because I'll drink the bottle
>Found a casual(ish) look I like. Pic related. Plan to have a more down-to-earth feel to it, though.
>Booted up the old PS3 to try and get back into Vidya. Bought a few games.
>Cleaning my house
>Preparing myself to head to a doctor to get a full checkup. No health insurance is really gonna fuck everything up but it'll be worth it
>Made a food list
>Making an effort to walk my ass to the gas station to grab the paper. Trying to be more aware of what's going on
>Grabbed a membership for planet fitness

Things are looking up so far, guys. Getting a license is still a big barrier though since my tax collector's office requires you to bring your own car. How would I go about doing this?

So I'm basically doing fine in several aspects of my life, graduating from electrical engineering next semester, pretty darn Veeky Forums after working out for a few years.

But talking to people is fucking hard. I feel so phony trying to be empathetic and nice in conversation, when in reality I'm a pseudointellectual selfish asshole with a sick sense of humor.

Do you guys completely change your personalities around different groups of people? I was on a date the other day and my date bitched out at me when I joked about autism.

None of this is "looking up."
You appear to be closing your eyes while spiraling down.

How do you learn to be more engaging in a conversation? I was a huge loser for most of my life and was ignored by people my whole life so I involuntarily became the quiet guy who barely talks to anyone. Now I have a great paying job, don't look half bad either, but when I open my mouth I'm still the same autistic retard I was years ago.

>giving up all friends
>still drinking bear
>dressing like emo mop head preppy twink with a dog collar and chain, probably cosplaying something or heading to a Veeky Forums meetup
>getting back into videogames
>getting a checkup without insurance
>reading the paper instead of going online
>getting a planet shitness membership

JUST

>You appear to be closing your eyes while spiraling down.

DELET THIS

my SIDES have been DESTROYED
i am fucking DONE

People like to talk about themselves. Ask tactful questions about things they are passionate about.

i have a 100-150mg IV oxy habbit

where do i go from here?

Even though i sleep pretty well comparable to most people i know, do you think there's still room for improvement if i cop some ZMAs?

Not sure if I should waste my money on sleep sups if they're not intended for people who get average sleep

Nothing about that fit is casual my friend

Make eye contact and ask pointed questions. The other guy is right, people love to talk about themselves. When I was first trying to figure out the conversation thing I kinda just sat back and let them do the legwork, people will rarely ask you something about yourself but if they do just answer honestly. You should learn how to listen before you learn how to speak

I'm the same bro. I think it's just levels of politeness. Depends on how comfortable you are with the person. Also if you take the risk and bee urself with the person, you've got a chance of having a closer connection/relationship with the person. So my advice is to just bee urself as much as possible and if people don't dig it, then who cares

Is this me? Same thing in conversations, glad that my friends are a bit same like me and gf approves of sick humor. How the fuck should you act in normal convos with strangers..

>been depresed for weeks for tfwno gf
>some girl of my gym come to me super hard
>i drop the spagheti of my life sweating bullets
> she leaves disgusted
Well at least i dont want a gf anymore

novidya: 139
noporn: 1

I am at 180 noporn
45 novidya
Life is soo boring. How normies dont kill themselves

mirin do you have sex regulary?

>8-9 hours

the fuck man
isnt 9 hours way too long for sleep?

appreciate the advice

Depends on the person, the rule of thumb is 8, but if you live a physically demanding life more is perfectly fine

I want to get more social exposure in order to develop solid relationships. I'm an 18 yo from a suburb attending a local community college for a year before I transfer away and start living on my own. I also started a job, though it's pretty much entirely signiticantly older people who work there. Do any fellow suburban bros know how to connect with nearby people without having things like school? A friend told me to consider tinder, is that a legitimate course of action?

>tfw becoming more normie and less weird
>tfw invited to parties
>tfw feeling good

Now I just need to fix my work ethic, read more, start learning an instrument and start programming again.

If you want friends find something you're interested in and join a club. Or just go somewhere and talk to people, for example I go rock climbing and there's heaps of friendly people there that you can ask for advice on routes and stuff

I updated the meditation section.

Also, I created a simple template for noticing and reframing negative thoughts. This is really important for long term mental health gains. It's based on a template provided by David Burns in his book "Feeling Good," which you can easily find summaries of:

docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yULe28huqH3QhzL3bWaePvDcHaxtCvb88igaj_9Zw6s/edit?usp=sharing

Thanks for the advice man, what I'm taking away from it is to meet people by focusing on very specific interests.
How can I find clubs?

Fuck that start drawning cute anime girls

Online probably, whether it's clay pottery, life drawing, or bouldering they'll probably have a facebook page or something. Just google x club in my location

Suburban bro here. Completely unironic but the gym. Met one of and probably my best friend through the gym. Just started lifting together and played some basketball once a week. I'd would take a bullet for that guy and I'm sure he would for me.

My gym might be different then yours though, mines got a bunch of sports leagues you can show up for a participate like basketball, tennis that stuff. I'd say just try and find a lifting buddy or meet someone through a league. Best of luck user.

Rehab

DROP THAT COFFEE!

I remember you. Help your family. Skip Disneyland until your parents aren't homeless.

Good job. I quit cold turkey 3 months ago.
I smoked weed/tobacco literally every single day for years before the meme even got popular.
Aside from the ways it can fuck up your mind, body, motivation, it burns a big hole in your wallet.
If you truly feel like quitting, take note that this process might take a while.
I've been sweating buckets during sleep, coughing boogers for weeks, felt really hollow inside, and find things to motivate me in life again.

I've been going out a few times and going to parties/bars/nightclubs with some classmates but honestly it sucks
just a waste of money and time and I don't really like them for reasons other than "networking"
I'd rather stay at home and be the shut-in who plays video games all day but then I don't feel productive

I just watch zyzz videos, gets me positive and psyched

I know I'll probably get made fun of for this but I'll post it anyways. I'm finally learning to be hygienic. I'm a depressed disgusting /r9k/ neet but for the past week I've managed to brush, floss, and shower every day.

I also have not had soda or juice in a week. That's good

you have a home gym?

Twice a day man

Don't do it they're addictive and won't give you good sleep

If they suck fuck em
Find people who share your interests

>hopefully getting low pay good exp job soon
>gonna use money to pay for gym and food
>starting a better sleep schedule with set times
>got back into reading

A-am i gonna make it boys?

Ha, I have to take Oxycodone to sleep properly; it also helps my depression get worse.

No I don't lift but I've been running

I know

You absolutely have to change your sense of humor around different people. Just gauge the room and figure out what's acceptable. There are VERY few people who are comfortable with autism jokes

It's definetely a good start. What are you reading atm?

...

>coffee
>any better than coke

I dont have any interests, I dont care about anything

You like fitness?
Anime?
Veeky Forums?
Politics?

sure
only a few
yes
no

Make an anime club then
Or a bodybuilding club

I need help and am posting in here because I'm losing it right now and want some advice to move forward in my life

Plz help me find my path again

That outfit is ridiculous but my penis likes it.

well i'm not in college, training is for my job

Dear user, some things about my post caught my attention and I want to question you about it.

>I am losing it right now

What exactly are you losing? Could you describe it?

>want some advice to move forward in my life

Forward? to where? what will advice do to make you move? advice on what?

>plz help me find my path again

So you had found the path? And what was this path? And what were the advantages of this path to you?

Most importantly, how did YOU find it in the first place?

Why were you homeless?

Ironing my shirts today. Another pile of "things I don't want to deal with" has been defeated. Now I think it's time to shift back to social gains.

>What exactly are you losing? Could you describe it?

I am losing my life right now, been successful for a long time and have found out that I am fucked up and can't move on in life

I';m throwing away my career and I'm afraid to advance in this field

>Forward? to where? what will advice do to make you move? advice on what?

I have money, and a good career I could probably do anything I want and I don;t know how to do it

My life is empty right now, I make 100k a year and work 3-4 hrs a day

Sometimes I work 5hrs in a day but most of my work is complete and projects are completed right now. Literally sit at home, computer online and just do work. I have no actual work anymore, and I'm alone

I have money but not much else, nothing satisfies me anymore

>So you had found the path? And what was this path? And what were the advantages of this path to you?

I used to be broke, and started studying, and applying for jobs. found a field, applied, and dedicated a few years of my life to work only. Than became promoted and a top engineer, now I see and have come to realize what I have become, I'm a lonely 30 year old man with no direction in life and all I have earned in life is money

>Broke and poor
>Work hard
>Found success/wealth
>Now I don't know what to do and I'm bored

If you were given your current salary to do any job, what job would it be?

10 days nopron and intermittent fasting here.

Never been this easy. Just might make it...

dropped 14 pounds since i came back to college, i have to drop 16 more to hit my end semester goal. It feels good being able to feel the progress

Some points here and there I wish to say, but only with your permission. But always remember to take them for what they are, just words uttered by a man who does not know you, and is not familiar with your struggle, for your struggle is unique (as is anybody elses).

>I am losing my life

The way you phrased this made me think a little bit. Because it leads me to several paths. Consider the following (this is what you said in your post):

You've described your current life as that of an "empty" 30 year old man who only got money who only works and sits on his computer. You said this, more or less.

So... what part of your life are you actually losing? And wouldn't you want to lose these things (that I assume you dislike) in the first place?

Or are you losing something else thats entirely separated to your current life? as in, something that is actually good - to you?

My point here is that we have to recognize the importance of phrasing things and be as accurate as we can be on describing what we are actually feeling.

>and can't move on in life

Define this. From the point of view of your - current state - what is it to - move on - ?

>My life is empty

Lets take a couple steps back, about 2300 years back actually. Old age philosophers who predated Aristotle defined two things: that of matter (being) and that of emptiness (not being). To this they proposed the age old question (one of the most important ones in my book): What is it - to be - and what is it - not to be -?

The interesting thing here is to put it face to face to what they considered - not being - or "emptiness". Now don't take this too literally, just imagine it as an abstract concept with no actual grounds in "reality".

(1)

From this I want to ask you two questions, regarding your emptiness.

1. Could we say man - is - ? (being) If so, when does he get to be? (what are the conditions prior to his being)
>But ask yourself this counterexample: Could we say there are no conditions prior to his being? (So he would simply be, at all times)

2. Could we say a man - is not - ? (not being) Likewise, what conditions predate his - not being -?
>And ask yourself the following: Could he actually - not be -? If so, what is this state (death)? And, if he could not be, then he was at some point, correct?

These questions yield many assumptions. Here are some:

Consider the abstract idea of man as an empty shell.

>Conditions prior to being

This implies there are a set of - objects - which, when used by the man, he becomes. So man is - not - when hes brought into this world, yet he - is - once he knows of these conditions.

>Conditions prior to not being

Likewise, there may be some things which are opposed in direct magnitude to those which aid man in his path to becoming.

Some fill the shell, some empty it, more or less.

So consider the following:

Did you ever put care onto your - shell?
Was your shell ever "filled"?
Are you sure its really empty? (Because I do not believe you are empty)
Would you say that the things that you did up to now ever filled it? (But if they had done it, you wouldn't be empty right now!)

(2)

>nothing satisfies me anymore

And we've arrived to one of the most prominent stones in our path. I predict I will find it many times in my life, so will you, so will most of the people. That of the - point - of doing things, another age old question that will haunt (or delight us) for generations to come.

Notice that there's a problem here, which I am sure has been phrased infinitely many times on a better manner by a myriad of philosophers. To - do - and - why do it -? This makes me see two cases.

Case 1: Something comes prior to doing.

The intent of he who - does - come to be when he comes in contact with a certain set of objects.

1. Assume that this set is finite.

Then there's only a finite amount of intent and a finite amount of doing. So there would be a limitation to what man can do.

2. Assume that man should - do - because of satisfaction.

Then, at some point, he will become unsatisfied. So man is doomed to be unsatisfied (and perhaps end his life for his lack of doing).

Case 2: Nothing comes prior doing.

Then - intent - is on itself the prime mover of what drives a man to do, and not the object itself. In other words: It is not the object which moves man to - do - man himself does it.

So now we wouldn't be limited by a finite set of objects, correct? Because intent is not limited by what there is to - do - out there.

(But the question still stands, ¿Should man do out of satisfaction or reward? Perhaps yes , perhaps not)

My point is the following, dear user:

I don't think - nothing - satisfies you anymore. I believe your problem does not have to do with the - objects - out there. It has to do with your - intent - and what composes you (your soul, your mind, whatever). And you need to identify this.

People need an aim in life. It sounds like you have your money sorted, so there are a few directions you can go from here:

>Social:
Connect with old friends? Checkout meetup.com for shit you like. Join a sport/martial arts club? Get on a dating app and work at it!

>Hobbies:
Most people would kill for that free time/money combo you've got going on. No excuse not to dive into a hobby you've always wanted to try. Make it a daily habit and keep track of your progress/

>Meaning:
A reason to get up in the morning. Try and find something that helps other people or your community. If your job doesn't give you that satisfaction, maybe look for a political or volunteer group that aligns with your values and helps those around you.

And of course strive in your career, stay Veeky Forums, and maybe read a little.

Good luck, senpai.

dont fuck with opiates user but since your already down the rabbit hole you might as well get professional help

ZMA makes me have crazy dreams which means im hitting REM stage of sleep pretty hard but i dont feel alot better desu but then again im just fucked in the head with anxiety. maybe it will work good for you.

just broke a 40 day no vidya fast since i was about to kill myself out of boredom

>complete and utter 23 y/o social retard
>living with dad and mom who perpetually treat me like a kid
>can't talk to anyone, feel like I'm suffocating in public situations
>all my good friends are in other states or dead
>go through the motions in college, show up, take test/sit through lectures, beeline straight home
>lifting is my only solace but realized my form was really shit since lift alone and have no one to tell me otherwise and had to start on square one
>interests are extremely autistic (American history/Early Indo European History/Guns and Militaria)
>spend my weekends shitposting on Veeky Forums and /k/, perpetually stoned to feel like I'm hanging out with friends while doing so
>scared off any girls I've tried talking, shithead DYEL brother there to constantly remind me what a social failure I am
>go to church and straight back so my hyper-religious parents won't kick me out of the house
>mfw nearly committed suicide the other night while drunk and stoned out of my mind

I'm kind of in a rut gents

If you like your own humor find someone else who likes it too. Use it as a social filtering mechanism unless you're cringy McCringester.

Screencap of the flossing post?

What do you guys think about channels like Alpha M or Charisma on Command?

The latter basically addressed why people hate me in conversation with this video: youtube.com/watch?v=R20DrhsdJaQ

Literally me in college.

Take it from me and realise that your time in post secondary will effect the rest of your life in more ways that you can count. You can either make a complete waste of it and fall miserably into mediocrity or worse - OR you can use it as a catalyst for your human potential and makes gains (social, knowledge/career, physical) across the board and substantially increase the baseline for the rest of your life.

Please, user. Try and be social. Baby steps if need be. Quit smoking weed and get involved in clubs/school events.

I was you except completely lacking self awareness. While i've managed to make light of my situation, I can't even imagine where I'd be if I'd taking my post secondary experience even remotely serious.

If you're not willing to do this for yourself, do it for me.

>>interests are extremely autistic (American history/Early Indo European History/Guns and Militaria)
Niche hobbies like that usually have great tight-knitted communities surrounding them. Aren't there any clubs at your college about those subjects? Maybe join a civil war re-enactment group? You have those in murrica right

I've been trying user but I just don't know whats missing, feels like I'm wearing a veil over my face that only goes away when I drunk or high. Even when I try to be sociable I scare people off, I've been told that I come off as incredibly insincere and I have no idea what the fuck that even means

god I really want the old warhammer online days back ;_;

You dont play on that one server made by the community? Age of reckoning

Sounds like you could benefit from some therapy or cognitive behavioural therapy.

I managed to brute force my way through it (some combo of luck and will) over the years to have some semblance of social grace.

I just focus on trying to have positive interactions with those around me, seeing as we're all human beings with problems and interests (despite the mask we all wear). I take interest in people and their lives prevalent to our current circumstances. The common trope of people loving to talk about themselves is true, and in getting them to do that you'll learn some interesting shit.

I originally had this autistic method of conversing with people when I first started (that has no come second nature to me). I used to picture a dialogue d-pad(cross) like you would see in an RPG.

When I asked somebody how things were going in their lives/whatever we were involved with. I pressed a button on the dialogue d-pad.

>Forward: Enquire further into what they were saying. Asking about a specific detail, or asking for more details.

>Left or Right - Giving my take on it, relating it to something in my life,

>Backwards - Talking about the abstract principle of it. Zooming out in a way. Asking what they liked about certain principles/underlying structure of the subject.

Now I can talk to a stranger about literally anything and get them to spill the beans.

Like I said. Baby steps. Just make sure to speak the truth and take interest in people. You're not going to be a smooth talking charmer in a week. You're going to stumble along the way and make an idiot of yourself. Accept that now. But soon you will notice changes, and with that -friends, maybe an S/O, confidants, contacts, refrences etc.

Speak the truth (save for some white lies and social tact), take interest in people, try and learn something.

Sheeit bro you only 23, I'm 2 years younger than you and I realize things seem tough but its only due to naivete of our youth so let me red pil you on some stuff.
1. Friends honestly don't matter buy the time we are thirty(unless you meet them in a setting where you meet at least once a week, i.e religious place, school, or work), you hardly ever see them or will the be able to be there for you.
2.Women aint nothing but hoes and tricks, personally I don't care for interacting with cunts due to the fact they all have more or less the same vapid interests, i'd suggest avoiding them until you can make money, then you can spin them like plates
3. Granted i'm a religious guy I would say don't attend your parents religious stuff ... buut they probably would toss you out so maybe keep going for the time going.
4. Develop and strengthen your hobbies and skills trust me it'll help when your older(hell Tesla was still inventing well into his late 70s).

oh yeah, I did, but then I stopped playing. God I remember when the game came out and I was like 13-14 playing witch hunter, those were the times.

We should play sometime!

>meditate (get rid of the thoughts)
this

It is only after you calmed yourself down that you can get to the point where you realize that all of it's in the past.

I always point that out to myself, after my heart stops beating so crazy and I can think for myself.

Is this what a panic attack is like by the way?

also
>pic realted

I'll try it out user, its better than nothing at this point. At this point I was considering going up to random people and just putting it out there from the start that I have severe social anxiety.

I've also thought about picking up music again, I tried after I got out of the military but it just wasn't the same anymore

youtube.com/watch?v=Tu9KgGqXDyw

yea, let's do that

>Forward: Enquire further into what they were saying. Asking about a specific detail, or asking for more details.

>Left or Right - Giving my take on it, relating it to something in my life,

>Backwards - Talking about the abstract principle of it. Zooming out in a way. Asking what they liked about certain principles/underlying structure of the subject.

not the user you were replying to but holy shit that's a great idea

R-really?!

B-But how will we contact each other user?!

I'm only 19 and I'm a DYEL LMAO 1pl8 cunt who doesn't know how to talk to girls, or anyone, without getting way too personal way too fast. Am I a lost cause?

If I may, my friend.

Leave. Leave your house, your family, whatever friends you might still have, leave your country. Just fuck off somewhere else, start anew.
That's what I did when I turned 19. As soon as I finished high school, I literally had no ideas what to do anymore. I hail from a shithole in northern Italy with not many hopes for a grand future. Most of my friends ended up doing shit manual jobs 8-10 hours a day and doing nothing in their free time but drinking. They literally have no interests, they are complacent with their total lack of dreams, desires and wishes for the future.
Everything is boring. There is nothing to do at all. No more clubs anymore, no cinema, no bowling, no anything you could think about, Just the same 3 fucking pubs everybody always go to.

When i finished high school, I did fuck all for 5 months. My surroundings were starting to get at me, I was losing all the interests I always had. I tought that I was gonna either join the military, start doing heroin, leave my home or just throw myself off a bridge. Boredom was all I knew, i almost couldn't feel anything else anymore.

So I chose the best option and fucked off to Australia for two years, Never regretted it once, I have honestly never felt happier. Don't underestimate what a clean slate can do. New people, new surroundings, new jobs, new cities.

To me it appears you loathe yourself right now. You loathe yourself, even. While awful, this can be a good motive to change. You said yourself you almost committed suicide, friend. You are at a point where little interests you anymore, so whats' stopping you from doing all the things you have always dreamt of? I realize this all seems like wishful thinking right now, but trust me, think about it. While cliche, the world IS yours for the taking,

Leave your home for a year, or six months, even. Start anew. What's the point in keeping at what you're doing if none of it gives you happiness?

god dammit, I often don't go on normiebook but i just did my weekly check, and it hurts. My friends have seemingly fulfilling lives (even though i know that photos don't mean shit). New profile pics with friends while in vacation in [insert chill destination here].
I'm not to blame, I lift, have a few acquaintances, practice boxing and study toward earning a good degree. But still it hurts because I will have gone through uni making almost 0 meaningful connection.
Also does someone have a good book collection on ancient & modern history ? Would really like to read about the greeks and romans, their fucked up stories seem very entertaining