Reminder that fat was considered attractive for the last 25,000 years...

Great, how fucking sad will it be when future aliens find our fucking DeviantArt furry homo yiffing drawings?

That emperor had the right idea.

It's a natural response to our changing survival modes

Fat, in a cultural of little means equates to health, wealth and strength

Fitness in a culture of excess equates to health and strength

This fucking meme.
Fertility idols were not intended to be attractive
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6247625.stm
>Slim waists have been the mark of attractive women throughout history, says a US scholar who has analysed thousands of ancient texts ... He found that slimness was the most common term of praise from an author
>"The finding that the writers describe a small waist as beautiful suggests instead that this body part - a known marker of health and fertility - is a core feature of feminine beauty that transcends ethnic differences and cultures."

That's the thing. As an [spoiler]Art History[/spoiler] student, describing the difference between what art is representative of a culture or nation versus the art that is about the thoughts of the person who made the art is difficult, especially with the explosion of individualism after the Industrial Revolution, and art wasn't just reserved for people making commissions for rich or powerful people anymore.

Art nowadays is almost guaranteed to be the reflection of the individual because nobody commissions anything important in the means of art anymore because art is no longer the most effective means of propaganda or influence. Its pretty much lost its old meaning.

Huh. Thanks for sharing user.

Good luck with that art history degree.

The state of being pregnant isnt the same as being obese. If half of our kids today died in childbirth and a quater were miscarried we would probably put alot more emphasis on the way women look in the later stages of pregnancy and find it more attractive.

Thanks buddy, I intend to fight my way into the field tooth and nail. Already have an internship at an auction house so hopefully that'll be some valuable experience on a resume

/blog

this post made me laugh so much for some reason
>mommy and daddy pay for college
>mommy and daddy pay for internship scam at some pretend job
>"oh yeah i'm """interested""" in """art""", gonna fight my way into the field tooth and nail"
you fucking clown hahaha

But prehistoric humans no doubt interpreted women with more fat as better vessels for offspring than sickly thin ones. Its a fair assumption that the exaggeration of the fat on the prehistoric figures is just that, an exaggeration - since that much fat probably wasn't really possible on a human body at the time, a sculptor could have very easily thought "the fatter the woman, the better the carrier" and exaggerated what he would have thought a woman larger than the best carriers would look like. That even kind of bleeds into it as it being a sort of idol - if that size was unattainable in prehistoric times, then a higher, unseen being fatter than any human could possibly definitely fits the prereqs for a god-figure

How did you know I was going to clown school too??

Blah blah blah, if it has a vagina men will fuck it. Nothing to see here. Move along.

t. stem retard

Whatever you're studying is not more lucrative than what a well connected humanities major can put together.

I'm studying a highly applied science by the way, so don't think this is some butthurt humanities fag coming at you.

Ya I agree. But a healthy weight is always going to be the best for bearing children. Unhealthy at either end of the spectrum is typically unattractive unless you have fetishized it.

I havent laughed this hard in weeks. Thanks man.

As a med student, I can guarantee it is.

>going to Veeky Forums
>creating a thread about how fat was attractive
Well, OP went full faggot. Go back to wherever you came from.

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My point is that the high end of the spectrum (i.e. obesity) didn't exist to prehistoric humans, so they wouldn't have known that. By making their idols fat as fuck, they're creating something that doesn't exist in their world and represents what they (incorrectly) want their women to achieve to reach peak child bearing potential

Maybe they were just shitty sculptors.

I don't think that was the case either, because the navel on the Venus of Willendorf (pic related) is actually a natural formation in the rock. So the prehistoric boy took a look at this rock and said "man this would make for a great sculpture of a fatty" and incorporated the deformity in the sculpture. Honestly, that's kinda impressive.

>sickly thin ones.
What makes you think they associated thin and sickly?
Look at modern hunter-gatherer tribes in Africa or South America. They have beauty standards very similar to the Venus posted above. Women are expected to contribute to society through foraging, carrying water and construction. These are all easier for someone with a bit of muscle and not a lot of fat. Obesity shouldn't be (and indeed, isn't) considered attractive there.

These fertility idols aren't intended to represent someone who's fat. They represent someone who's pregnant.

It was a joke sperglord.

mfw

Hey, its a legitimate criticism. You could tell they didn't completely understand anatomy, and that all of the figures are faceless

Well then I disagree. I think they are intended to be like about to burst with kids. Like giant stomach and heavy breasts did exist, right before a baby pops out. I think its more about the state of being pregnant than them thinking "fatter means better at bearing children" because that isnt true today and it wasnt then either.

You know these statues could have been of their mother right?

Not true. Most of those fat cave carvings were of demons.

>I'll just pull some nonsense out of my ass and hope nobody notices

ITT: American education.

>What do you mean different cultures have different ideal from us? That must be wrong! America is everything!

nice try roastie. being fat was always considered ugly, but back in the day it was also a sign of wealth. now it's just a sign of gluttony and laziness.

>fertility idol
>fertility
>not beauty

Why is this so hard for them to understand?

They're an exaggeration of the pregnant female form; a deification of the creation of life. You're not supposed to pop a boner to them.

Tell that to my dick.

Yeah but 25,000 years ago, medical "science" was Eat this, and we'll see if you are still alive tomorrow.

That's impossible - the Earth is only 6000 years old

This guy is right. All these fetishes are fertility idols. Take an ancient history class FFS.

Sexual preferences don't just change from generation to generation. We're instinctually wired to be attracted to a certain type of female or male, and paintings or statues confirm that.

If you look at the male version of these fertility idols you'd see a beastial form hardly related to the human body at all. Does that mean women's ideal man is a bull? How you answer that question will let you know if you're retarded or not.

highly applied science is the same as humanities, fag

there is no what way that an average ancient human could EVER get fat, the resources weren't there until the 1800s.

Obese people would be considered freaks, and probably had endocrine problems

>there is no what way that an average ancient human could EVER get fat
Exactly. Only wealthy ancient humans could get fat.

Reminder that Rubens drew tits on fat men.
Fat women who call themselves rubenesque are referring to themselves as looking like androgynous men with wigs and fake boobs.

That's just caveman fetish porn. On the Paleo for realz diet very, very few women got fat. Only the ones whose men were the best hunters and had enough daughters to do all her chores could get even a little chubby, so they were status symbols and all the caveman wanted to chuck their husbands and fapped to grossly exaggerated versions of them.

>American education

Actually, those are mother figures. They're not a sign of beauty but of motherhood.

>make money off being skinny

you do know that the diet industry doesn't make even a hundredth of what fast food, junk food etc etc turn over right?

And this was probably cool in the 1980s, guess what? things change. Fatties look ugly with generic round faces, no striking features, lumps and shit smells. It no surprise we moved on to thinner being better.

>taking advice from literal cavemen

Partially true. This is an American world. You're just living in it