Veeky Forums's resident (((animal ag shills))) and useful idiots think they can argue against this.
Look at them try.
Not pictured is the fact the human body can combine proteins while carnivores can't Humans can not synthesize Vitamin C while carnivores can. Vegans have higher rates of testosterone, lower LDL cholesterol, longer lifespans, longer telomere lengths, lower rates of disease, lower rates of depression, lower rates of heavy metals, lowest body mass indexes.
The origins of modern medicine (Big pharma is the reason the Vegas shooter went off the deep end. Benzos for now. Will find out about SSRIs later) youtube.com/watch?v=ySnk-f2ThpE&t=1s
Humans are omnivores, your picture just points all the things arguing for the herb part of omni and thinks its making some point. Humans can't digest cellulose properly, we can only eat certain plants that don't exist in all regions. Human stomach acidity (conveniently left out on yourr list) is much higher than other higher apes to make meat eating possible.
Tell me. How would a hunter gatherer tribe in Holocene Europe survive without eating meat? There are no edible plants during the winter, only grazing grasses that humans can't eat. What about modern eskimos? Humans are omnivores? Get over it veganfag.
Luke Evans
Oh sorry, stomach acidity is in the picture but it lies about it. Gastric acid is 1.5 to 3.5 ph not 4 to 5
Landon Kelly
Not mentioned in picture: the fact that a typical Frugivore diet is about 30% meat. They're called Frugivores because the other 70% is fruit, not because they only eat fruit.
Charles Jenkins
This image sucks ass OP. All it produces is confusion and endless discussion about meaningless shit.
These classifications are arbitrary.
Alexander Perry
>we are more like apes than lions this is truly groundbreaking.
Leo Evans
I think you got that number wrong. It's around 3% not 30%
Michael Morgan
there is no such things as a true herbivore or a true carnivore. these are just very general categories to help dumb humans who can't handle subtleties think about nature
William Gonzalez
Yes.
We've all seen the video of the deer eating a bird. Here's a horse doing the same thing.
Are horses and deer omnnivores? Of course not. But they're animals. There's no reason one animal cannot digest and consume another animal's proteins. It all came from plants and it stored in animal bodies.
What we should eat is very simple. We should eat the healthiest and most ethically sound options. Which is obviously plants.
Ryder Jackson
>There's no reason one animal cannot digest and consume another animal's proteins. It all came from plants and it stored in animal bodies. wow so deep... mother nature man.. we're all the same.. f*ck scientist man..
Adam Sullivan
No need to convince me, I'm vegan. The fact that the herbivore/carnivore classification is silly, doesn't dictate what's healthy or ethical to eat. It's just a technical point. All the time I see people go back and forth over this, it's completely meaningless, just arguing the semantics of a loose definition
Logan Barnes
>We should eat the healthiest and most ethically sound options. Which is obviously plants. Source on the ethics part, please. What is the equation or formula used to define that plants are the most "ethical"?
David Kelly
Oh fuck it. Give a source on the word healthy as well. Many of you vegans might be surprised by the fact that there's no single definition for health.
Aaron Howard
Our proteins and the vitamins we store are the same.
Do you think you couldn't take another humans nutrients? They have the exact amino acids you need in perfect proportions.
This is not an argument for cannibalism.
Thomas Mitchell
We're omnivores. That's why we're top of the food chain because we have the ability to survive and thrive anywhere living off almost everything we can eat
Chase Perez
Given that people can eat plants or animals, it is more ethical to eat plants because that causes less harm.
This isn't complicated. Stop pretending that you don't know right from wrong.
>t there's no single definition for health cringed. please don't reply to me again until you stop being this gross.
Matthew Flores
>How would a hunter gatherer tribe in Holocene Europe survive without eating meat? The same way people take care of their animal bodies in the cold with heating, or pressurized cabins in the sky, the frontal cortex.
Does the ability of the human being to smoke cigarettes or to shoot up heroin mean we 'evolved' to smoke and shoot heroin? By your logic we did and we are meant to.
Logan Foster
Eating anything causes harm user. Do you know how many animals died, how much habitat for animals and people was destroyed, and how many human beings were exploited and died to put that mango on your plate?
You don't care about harm. You care that people think that you're not doing any harm. You're jacking/shlicking off to the idea that you're somehow saving animals lives by not eating a freshly caught fish rather then beans and oranges grown in a place where varmints had to be murdered, earth had to be rendered sterile and people had to be enslaved.
Hunter Rogers
No. It's arguing correctly what the human body's natural, non-culturally influenced optimal diet is.
James Scott
>you vegans might be surprised by the fact that there's no single definition for health. "the state of being free from illness or injury." according to the dictionary you fucking dumbass.
Evan Perez
>You don't care about harm. Yeah I do. That's why I'm vegan. Because eating plants (instead of animals) causes the least amount of harm possible.
I can't express how sad it makes me to have to constantly explain he most basic aspects of morality. It's a dark reminder that most people never contemplate this sort of thing.
Try not to murder anyone you immoral psychopath.
Colton Cruz
Cancer, diabetes, and heart disease are what you're calling 'thrive'.
Austin Young
It doesn't user. The harm was already caused. You not eating animals and emotionally attacking people who do does more harm then anything else.
You're not saving the life of any animals or helping to change the lives of local small farmers so they can grow vegan foods that can help feed people locally.
You're merely masturbating over your own goodness.
Gavin Hill
If you're upset about the impact of farming plants then you should stop eating animals since we have to grow an exponentially larger amount of plants in order to feed the animals.
Samuel Wilson
Yes. People who eat factory farmed animals to excess. The people who eat factory farmed vegan(if they don't fuck up the food selection)die from other neurological causes.
A vegan with a well thought out plan of eating and low body mass does not live any longer then an omnivore who eats well and has low bodymass.
Noah Mitchell
Those farms are forced to grow that feed by government user. You have any idea of how much corn and the like is just sitting around in silos rotting right now? If they could grow crops that weren't for feeding cows and making ethanol and corn syrup and sell directly to people...they would. But they can't.
Want to help farmers...on second thought. You don't. You don't care. Because you get your veg from all over the world and from slavers.
Charles Moore
So, you just say things, huh?
Nobodies dying from your stupid fucking neurological causes. What the fuck are you even talking about? Are you a child? Eating any amount of food from an animal source increases LDL cholesterol, lowers testosterone, increases rates of the top ten, increases uric acid, inflames the vascular system, increases BMI, increases rates of depression, etc.
You can look at populations studies of the Okinawans and the Vegetarian, Californian Adventists for lifespan.
Nathaniel Flores
I'm supposed to care about somebody's job when I buy a product? You buy everything you buy for charity. You don't understand how the market is supposed to work. Animal ag is pure socialism. It would collapse without government subsidies. The subsidies are provided because big pharma and the greater petro chemical and banking industry wants to keep people as fat and stupid unit movers.
Ian Martin
The chinese eat meat are constantly active and have obscenely low bodyfat. They are fucking omnivores. And if you're claiming that you're not eating meat because of suffering of the animals but bringing up the chinese as proof of the superiority of your choice then you're fucking insane. Also the adventists outright fucking lie.
Adrian Anderson
user, they've been buying up and shutting down successful small farms for years. Of course they can't make any fucking money when they force them out of the fucking market and make the government strong arm them into doing what they want. Are you fucking retarded?
Jason Perez
Not just bodyfat, bmi as well.
When they stopped moving so much and were able to eat more of their traditionally healthy diet they started to get fat, get diabetes, and get certain cancers.
Gavin Rogers
And no, this isn't racist. The Chinese love to eat meat and they outright state that the meat tastes better if the animals suffer a bit. I think the Chinese are awesome. I'm just stating a fact.
Oliver Wright
When you buy a chicken, they chicken factory breeds another chicken for slaughter.
This is how buying things works you fucking IDIOT.
Colton Long
>mfw vegan from hungary the struggle is real
Eli Edwards
Incorrect. Doctors actually studied the impact of meat diets coming to then rural China. They barely ate any meat before industrialization. The ones who started eating meat animal products got as much diseases as we get. It was called THE CHINA STUDY. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_China_Study
Ryder White
Yeah well the scientists probably forgot something and did a mistake haha science is confusing
Plus lions eat meat so...
Tyler Brooks
You don't make sense. The government pay upwards of 50 billion to farm and promote animal ag to create a poisonous food that's making everyone fat and sick.
Justin Young
user...the china study was discredited numerous times. Numerous.
We know that the problem isn't the meat. You said so yourself. The problem is eating excesscive amounts of both meat and their traditional diets and current industrialized foods.
An average vegan who simply eats the same industrialized foods but doesn't eat meat or meat products is as sick and fat as one that eats meat.
Nolan Rodriguez
user, look into corn. Take a good long look at it.
Christian Nguyen
Corn is a whole grain and the tastiest of them all.
Jose Edwards
That doesn't follow logically. It's just a nature fallacy
Nolan Perez
This chart is just as wrong as the last 50 times you posted it, you retarded fucking faggot
Josiah Thomas
None of this is true, being fat, causes these, just don't overeat
Asher Morgan
plenty of thin people get heart disease from their buttery diets
Julian Ross
No they don't. Some people who are not overweight get heart disease because they have so little lean mass that they can still have very high BF% with a non-obese or even non-overweight BMI. This is common among older people
Caleb Morales
source: your butt
Caleb Lewis
You're seriously asking me to prove to you that sarcopenia exists?
Xavier Smith
ugh shut up you stupid fuck that's not what I said at all
Logan Evans
You're right, you barely said anything, jist an autistic screech
Angel Perez
>jist you're too mad to type
Christian Moore
fucking idiot
Cameron Ward
you didn't make an argument. asking for evidence is not "an autistic screech" you mad little babby
Jeremiah Rogers
It is when you're asking for proof to common knowledge, and when you ask for proof after starting a thread with an image that claims that the human GI tract is 60 feet long
Gabriel Richardson
>common knowledge >skinny people only get heart disease because they're actually fatter than they look!
that was a dumb argument and you've got nothing to support it
James Lee
They're not fatter than they look, they're fatter than they WEIGH. Old people are built like someone taped sandbags to a skeleton from lifetimes of inactivity and overeating
Cooper Long
Shoo shoo gains goblin
Blake Howard
Oooohhh ok *rolls eyes*
Jack Gray
What about B12 tho
Joseph Lopez
>That info graph
Its like someone just took their first Anatomy & Physiology class and used it to fuel their own agenda. Half the shit you're comparing doesn't even make sense to compare, the other half plain doesn't make any sense.
Nicholas Collins
Available from natural plant source in form of unwashed dirty vegetables that's why Indians can stay healthy while being vegan
Bentley Jenkins
>Indians >healthy
Joshua Gomez
>Veeky Forums's resident (((animal ag shills))) and useful idiots think they can argue against this. >time.com/4252373/meat-eating-veganism-evolution/ >livescience.com/23671-eating-meat-made-us-human.html >livescience.com/24875-meat-human-brain.html >thefreelibrary.com/Meat in the human diet: an anthropological perspective-a0169311689 >People who read books know a fact that vegetarians do not- that at one point in history, the Earth's total population of humans dropped to between 5,000 and 10,000 individuals, due to the eruption of Mt. Toba in Sumatra, which killed off most of the available plant and animal life on Earth in 71,000 BC. During this period of time, humans were confined to an >extraordinarily small area of Africa that escaped glaciation, where they subsisted on a diet that was "approximately 50-70% meat and 50-30% plants, respectively." This diet was necessitated by the die-off of plants and animals, and the lack of a varied diet that could have been otherwise obtained though plant gathering. It was at this time that the Neanderthal diet came to consist of naught but meat, due to the complete lack of availability of edible vegetation, which likely lasted for at least 1000 years.(Plants/climate) >chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/07/vegetarianism-and-veganism-are-as.html
In Indonesia natural non animal b12 is widely available in tempe and oncom, but there are more cannibals than vegans there
Eli Clark
>Eating any amount of food from an animal source increases LDL cholesterol, lowers testosterone, increases rates of the top ten, increases uric acid, inflames the vascular system, increases BMI, increases rates of depression, etc. >Contrary to popular belief, consuming a higher amount of fat (about 35 per cent of energy) is associated with a lower risk of death compared to lower intakes. However, a diet high in carbohydrates (of more than 60 per cent of energy) is related to higher mortality, although not with the risk of cardiovascular disease. >The research on dietary fats found that they are not associated with major cardiovascular disease, but higher fat consumption was associated with lower mortality; this was seen for all major types of fats (saturated fats, polyunsaturated fats and mono unsaturated fats), with saturated fats being associated with lower stroke risk. The researchers point out that, while this may appear surprising to some, these new results are consistent with several observational studies and randomized controlled trials conducted in Western countries during the last two decades. >The large new study, when viewed in the context of most previous studies, questions the conventional beliefs about dietary fats and clinical outcomes, says Mahshid Dehghan, the lead author for the study and an investigator at PHRI. >sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/08/170829091027.htm >(cont.)
