So women are starting to notice me and seem interested, whether it be in class or at bars...

So women are starting to notice me and seem interested, whether it be in class or at bars, but the issue is that I have no idea what to do.

Throughout all of high school and the start of college I was kinda fat with a chubby face and bad haircut, so I have zero experience with women.

Can some anons who have gone through this, or are going through this, shed some insight or tips? I've worked really hard on improving myself, so it'd be cool finally start reaping some benefits from being Veeky Forums. ty

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more of this girl?

help me out fampai
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You're built for this. Let intuition and nature guide you.

Pretty open ended question. Any specifics?

Just start approaching them, if you swing and miss analyze what seemed to go wrong and correct in the future. There is no silver bullet here, you're going to have to get rejected in order to learn this skill. Even those who were sociable in school went through this period of shakedown cruising. You got this bro

I had a feeling it was more like this. It's a solid rationale too.

1. If I try and approach and get nothing, I'm at the same position I was at had I never approached. But now with more experience.

2. I'm likely to never see these women again, so real risk of losing "social capital".

Is awkwardness and moments of silence kind of expected when talking with new people?

Dude I mean you're exactly correct about the two things. It's just pride, we're afraid of failure and being "awkward" yet we still loathe our current social state.
If you didn't give a fuck and weren't so self-conscious, you would you have built on your social skills/interaction with women much faster but I'm in the same boat and it fucks with me. You need courage and expose yourself to failure. You can read/watch a fuckton about such things but you will still have to go for it, fail, understand where you fucked up, what could be proven upon, go for it, fail better, etc.

Yes, and try your damnedest not to fill the silence with spaghetti, instead strive to say poignant things. Things that relate to what is directly at hand. Small talk works well if you can divide you and your conversational partner away from the rest of the bar, museum and club etc. The feeling you should be striving to imbue into her is that it's the 2 of you chuckling at the rest of the world. In all seriousness, also learn some dad jokes as these can help alleviate those tense moments

Ill give the advice I learned for going though this about that age.
Just be yourself, be a good kind person with self motivation. And remember women are just people too. If you treat them like a human being, someone with struggles, anxieties, goals, dream, like you would a close friend that you touch penises with, it will all come together naturally. Also dont be afraid to say hello to a girl you find attractive, if you break the ice often times they will do the rest of the talking.

>oftentimes they will do the rest of the talking
True fucking shit

You are all wonderful people, thank you.

>somebody actually has the sauce

wew lad

don't be an autist. just talk about normie things like tv shows even if you aren't interested in it then you can shape it to your tastes once you're both comfortable with each other.

if you fail, don't be wojak and move on to the next qt.

can you show us your body, im very curious at what point they start to notice

Smile at a girl you think is cute.
Say "Wow, I like your _____." (Shoes, pants, shirt, earrings...whatever)
How she reacts gives you a clue as to your chances.
If she gives a polite smile and says "Thanks." and that's it, fuck it. Move on.
If she gives a genuine smile and says "Thank you" or compliments something of yours then forge ahead.
Relax. Just talk to her like any other person you want to learn about.
Things should develop from there.

I’m not very big, but I leaned out a lot. My face looks 10x better than in HS but I don’t feel comfortable posting it here. Also, 6’2.

Thanks user

>see a girl at gym
>catch eyes a lot over a few sessions
>today
>asks me for advice
>end up talking about random stuff
>"let me just finish this set" when I'm out of things to say
>finish workout
>go get a drink
>she's gone

Can't figure out how to ask her out. Our times are in evening so everything nearby is closed, can't ask for a cheeky drink or sandwich.

What excuse do I use to get her to go out with me?

>start peaking at 23
>I graduated last May

why couldn't this have been sophomore year

>Is awkwardness and moments of silence kind of expected when talking with new people?
yeah. the best thing you could ever do is pretend like you don't care about it, like you're fine with being silent for a minute. don't desperately try to fill the gaps with pointless drivel

I'm a tripfag, son.

And you're welcome

>I'm a tripfag, son.
that's not a trip. stop posting and lurk more.

boi dont listen this faggots, i know how you feel and the only solutioın is start socialise more.

At first dont try to flirt with girls just try to be friendly,when your social skill get better , you will see that you can spak fine with girls.

just socialise more, say hi to people and make a conversation with theme...

dont listen this faggot...

DO NOT COMPLİMENT A GİRL UNLESS SHE REALY DESEVES İT!!!

" do you want to drink coffe after workt out?"
thats it

>risk of losing social capital
which you don't have in first place??

Meant to say no real risk

Going through your exact situation but with more progress. Here is your next step. You need to enter a mind frame that doesn't care about rejection. It doesn't matter these people mean nothing to you if you really think about it. Everyone nowadays is a big giant pussy and if you have even an once of alpha it will show. Take what you like and say whatever comes to mind(no memes and anime) everything else is on the table. Women dont care about your taste, they are going to try and change you anyway if you get close to them. Be a mix between drive and Bateman and you will see results you cant believe. Keep getting gains in the meantime brother I wish you well.

Obviously, I meant to compliment something she is wearing that deserves a mention.
Don't compliment her ratty, 2 year old Chuck Taylor's.

I just explained we work out late and everything is closed nearby. Also I just moved to the country so I don't have a car

so if she talks with you again try to make a conversation . she will start to like you , and that when you ask her for coffe.

and stop finding exuces like not having a car

>asking someone out for a coffee on a different day
Sounds a bit gay doesn't it? Like a movie cliche? I haven't been with a girl since high school so I don't know about real world dates.

ok then go masturbate

just next time you see her take her phone number and start to talk her . then ask her to drink a coffe thats it bro

This thread is comfy and nice, need more like it guys.

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Here's a tip that worked for me:
Whenever possible avoid asking women questions. Dont say "can i have you phone number?" say " you should give me your number" at an appropriate time. Makes them think youre more alpha i guess

Get a 4/10 practice gf that you aren't nervous to be around and then upgrade

I changed my body through lifting and weightloss. It is amazing how the same whores that always ignored me would literally rub her wet cunts on me, the cheeky smiles, the hints they dropped at all times. Really, women are fucking WHORES and doesn't deserve any respect. Screw the hell out of all of them until you find the one that suits your interests, bro.

>ewww chad why did you cum on my eyes and not my tits!?!?!?

"Hey, you wanna get coffee this weekend? I just moved here but I think I know a good spot."

Or anything else. It doesn't matter. There's no magic phrase to say to trick her into seeing you outside of the gym. If she's at all interested in you, it's a good place to start. It's quiet, a place where you're both not in the middle of doing something else, it's laid back, etc.

Question for you guys. Would you ever do a cold-approach in the middle of a busy city? If you have, how?

There's been so many times I'm walking or waiting at the crosswalk and I see a girl just eyeballing me and I wanna go talk to them but it seems weird to just stop and talk while everyone passes by. I got kind of bitter about it to be honest because I felt like i missed so many chances the other day.

I'm almost the same as you except I peaked around 20-21 but was still far from finished, then I got complacent, essentially made no progress for two years, and now that I graduated and reality set in, I'm finally getting my shit together again.

>99% of men weightlift for pussy
>WOMEN ARE FUCKING WHORES
how many levels of irony are you on right now, my dude?

When an attractive guy has an ugly gf women begin to think there's sth wrong with him and he loses his social status
Fuck them but don't show in public with them OP

You are missing the point of my post.
I was the same guy, just better looking, and I could see the absolute change of behaviour from almost nasty and certainly disrespectful to soaking wet cunt slut just because I grew some muscles.
i went from average skinnyfat dude to slightly fit they all whores went from 0 interest to gobbling my balls. WHORES

Except don't ask. "Come with me after this workout we'll get a coffee."

BE ASSERTIVE, STOP FUCKING ASKING

>from almost nasty and certainly disrespectful to soaking wet cunt slut just because I grew some muscles.
To be fair most guys do the same thing
People are overall shitty at their core

I want you to come to mine and crap on my face and chest, cover me with fecal matter, force me to chew it all. I have been fapping to that thought for months now, so if you don't come and drop a bloody turd in my mouth I am going to have to take further action, kidnapp you and force you to scat the fuck out of me through the use of enemas until your runny glory says "hi".
This should suffice.

this

doesnt reslly matter but if she says no you have to keep trying to convince her playfully or itll be awkward as fuck

This man speaks the truth

Notice how all powerful men never ask you questions. They just "suggest" things (aka order you)

No, you're a namefagf

people just value good looks the same way we do. it's fair to judge someone on their body imo. when it comes to face i try to ignore it since they can't help it

Pretty sure if you tell a girl you like her earrings/pants she'll think you're gay

I honestly didn't start doing well with women until I was 23. I was a kissless virgin until 18. Was with 9 girls between 18 and 22. Only one girlfriend in that time, who dumped me. I'm 25 now and I've been with a 34 girls since my 23rd birthday. No girlfriend though, mostly one night stands. My career has a lot to do with it though.

Honestly, stop masturbating and stop watching porn. I significantly reduced the frequency I masturbated and it did wonders for me. Went from jerking 1-4 times a day to once every two weeks if I don't get any pussy. It will make you a lot more confident and help you move past rejection faster. I find that I'm more witty and can keep conversation going easier since I quit jerking off. The other thing is if you can't hold a conversation with her for more than 10 minutes you're probably not going to be able to make it happen. It's better to cut you're losses and move onto the next girl imo. Having some extra talents helps a lot, but isn't necessary if you're Chad and/or suave.

>implying I don't want to touch penises with a girl

Thanks, user.

I will remember you when I bust a nut.

>DO NOT COMPLİMENT A GİRL UNLESS SHE REALY DESEVES İT!!!

Could you elaborate this?

What's wrong with telling a compliment to a girl I think is beautiful enough for me to talk to her?

anons there's a girl in my class and she was talking about having a hard time in it. I suggested to her we make a study group and she asked for my number. It was Wednesday when she asked for it and never texted me. I'm assuming she wasn't having any of it, is that normal?

>looking around the gym inbetween sets
>make eye contact with qt
what do you do in that situation? Usually I just end up looking away because I don't want to make myself seem like a creep who just stares at women constantly.

if you're attractive you can just feed compliments to insecure 18 year old girls and then fuck them provided you handle the logistics

complimenting only works on guys attractive guys, and girls are just hoping some good looking guy say hi to her.

if some of you guys compliment a girl you will look weak as fuck and she will try to make her orbiter.

THE REAL AND ONLY WAY TO MAKE A GİRLFRİEND:

1 GO TO THE GYM
2 ALWAYS İMPROVE YOURSELF
3 DO NOT CARE ABOUT ANYBODY (NOT EVEN YOUR MOM OR DAD)

THİS PART İS İMPORTATNT FAGGOTS
NO ONE ACTUALY WİLL LİKE OR LOVE YOU. EVER!

SO STOP LİVİNG FOR OTHER PEOPLE, START TO İMPROVE YOURSELF.

that the only way. but who cares u fucking faggots are never going to listen me

thats true

if you are a man the only importatnt thing in life is,
POWER.

No way its that old ass jew

we are all going to make it, brah.

>fake it til you make it
>but make sure it is consistent and who you want to be, as opposed to what you want to be seen as.
thelastpsychiatrist.com/2010/10/power.html

I'm gonna give you the biggest help you'll ever receive and it's this youtube channel.

youtube.com/user/SimplePickup

It's a pick up artist group which focuses on cold approaching (approaching without knowing/interacting with the person before) and without any lines or routines. Their newer vids are relatively useless and are more for entertainment, but their older vids are fantastic. They started up as funny approaches like approaching girls in a batman suit or a fat suit and getting their numbers. Watching these vids is also helpful, because they're examples from which you can learn. Soon after that they started teaching others how to approach. You should look vids like "How to Approach a Girl", "How to Pick Up Girls in CLASS", "How to Text a Girl", etc to understand the basics.

These vids are good for starters, but what you really want to look for is their "Project GO". Project GO are videos where one of the guys approaches a girl and after the raw video he slowly goes through it again and talks about what went through his head in that specific approach. Each video also has a specific lesson like "Rejections", "Persistance", "Leading"...where they focus on teaching you how to deal with rejections or how to properly lead a girl in a conversation. Project GO has a monthly subscription, but you can easily download the videos from the pirate bay. I recently downloaded a late 2014 version which has 125 vids. You essentially need the first 10-20 vids, before you understand the general concept and are ready to start approaching. Watching these vids without doing anything will not help you, but only confuse you, so you really have to start approaching after watching the initial few otherwise you'll get too much information and will start mixing things up. Don't misunderstand if there is a specific video you're interested in like "How to Approach a Girl in the Library" go ahead, but really try to start doing something after around 20 vids.

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I initially also had trouble with running out of things to say. They used to have a great video for this problem on their youtube channel, but I think it has since been removed. The essence of the video was that you can talk to girls about anything and spin it any way you like. What you are saying can be total bullshit as long as you're making it funny/interesting they'll be eating it up. This means that you can talk about the first thing that comes to mind. For example I talked about steaks several times. What the fuck can you do with the topic on steaks when hitting on a girl? Well I started with talking about how I make and season steaks, then I made a joke, which I saw from YouTube, about how I only eat vegan approved steaks (meat) and then asked her about steaks/cooking. In this conversation example I primarily didn't run out of things to say, I looked good since it seemed I know how to cook, I made her laugh and then showed her I have standards, since I want a girl who can cook. This will seem cringy/retarded to guys, because we don't buy into such bullshit, but girls do. You can practice this by picking the first non-retarded topic that comes to your head and think of what you could say.
Here is also a video on the same topic, but the one I watched years ago was better and the message in this one is a bit different (slightly worse).

youtube.com/watch?v=RRL_WZnhaBU

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In the beginning it's also a good idea to have a few topics prepared before approaching. One of the topics I had was "Cats or dogs?". This is a great topic, because it's very open-ended and you can have a long conversation about it. For example if the picked animals between you are different you can have a playful argument, if they're the same you can say how you belong together, you can tell a story about your pet, etc. In the first example you can say something like "Cats are for soulless people..." and then tease her for being soulless. In the second example you can say something like "Wow you like dogs too? We really do belong together", this will create the "us" mentality. In the third example you can tell a funny story about your pet or the story of how you got your pet, especially if it shows your emotional side, like how you wanted one for years and then were so happy when you finally got it. Don't have too many topics, have like 3 or so and try to keep them in the back of your head just in case you run out of things to say, eventually you won't need them anymore. Also don't try to force the topic if anything act like it just came to you.

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I started out in early 2013 as a 17yo 4-5/10 introverted lanklet gamer with barely any experiences with girls in an all boy school, so I needed something drastic to actually meet and get girls. Initially I did some fucking cringy approaches, which I still remember to this day, but got a lot better after around 5 approaches. Soon after that I was getting numbers, makeouts, dates, sex, etc, which further motivated me to increase my looks and be better in life. I got a proper haircut, started lifting, overhauled my wardrobe, started taking care of my skin, quit gaming etc. After a few months of doing this I turned into an 7-8/10 extroverted "Chad" who frequently got invited and went to parties. I also got a reputation at my school for being good with girls and doing funny stuff while partying. The skills that I acquired also helped me in a lot of other places in life. Being extroverted is great for getting to know people, getting friends and general networking. Increasing my looks made people like me more, think of me as more capable, trustworthy and respectable. Naturally looks also help with approaching, since I started out as a 4-5/10 and then quickly increased my looks to 7-8/10 I noticed the drastic difference. I was able to make more mistakes and still get the number, my success rate went even higher and I was able to do approaches faster, since the girls were more responsive. Overall hard to start out, but the results have been amazing for me and it was one of the best decisions I've ever made in my life.

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For further information you can visit their forums. The forums have several amazing guides (like a detailed text game guide) which can further help you. The two forum sections you might be interested in are "Become a Boss" and "Questions/Advice". For a collection of good guides go to "Become a Boss" and click on the sticky "Guide Hall of Fame", which is a collection of great useful guides, however some of them are advanced and to be used when you're already experienced with approaching and women in general.

simplepickup.com/forum/

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