Veeky Forums bad relationship with Africa and South America

Huh, okay then, I'm sorry to both of you guys.

We have this thread every day.

It's all good bro

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Tell me more about them, user.

Open gold fields you dont have to even mine and selling slaves to muslims and Europeans will do that for you. Nothing of value still came from there other than raw materials and forced labour. Just like today. What little architecture they have was built up by the Arab architecht Mansa Musa hired on his trip to Mecca.

The African empires were comparable to modern Gulf Arab states with oil and foreign everything, not European civilizations.

Neither of that is true. You're being elitist for no reason.

>Open gold fields you dont have to even mine
Goddamn, you really thought what you just wrote?

Normal digging would do, they had nothing compared to lets say the british copper mines from more than three millenia earlier.

It is true though. They were very much not advanced enough for their wealth. One of the reasons behind the plunder of west Africa were the stories of gold fields there inspired by Musa's reckless spending in Mecca.

[citation needed]

tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/02646811.1995.11433041

This, thanks for the link

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Veeky Forums keep saying my message is a spam, so I can't share my link

1. go to google
2. Search "Precolonial Metallurgy and Mining across Africa Shadreck Chirikure"

Ah no it wasn't

It wasn't reckless Islam states you donate to the poor and if you're able take a pilgrimage to Mecca

What. Arabs didn't build their architecture your just being a prick just because of your biases

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_sacrifice_in_Aztec_culture
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cannibalism_in_pre-Columbian_America

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That emperor could crush any Amerindian army

content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,912179,00.html

No one likes south America

wsj.com/articles/latin-america-is-worlds-most-violent-region-1397248932

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>le mud mosque and inca terraced farms prove they were more advanced than europe which didn't bathe

>europeans built a cathedral taller than the pyramids using vaulted arches and flying buttresses, terraced farms have been around since the neolithic and there was little need to use them in flat Europe, though I admit "advanced" is a bit ambiguous there is simply no comparison, also europeans did bathe, that's a meme

>WTF YOU FUCKING RACIST ASSHOLE WWHOOOAARRGHH AMERINDIANS WWERRE SUPERIOR

go back to r*ddit

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sure, if you make a regional average you can claim that. but in reality it's only a couple of countries that are very dangerous and skew the average.

in fact merica is more dangerous than half of south american countries. do you see any chilean city in this pic you fucking amerimutt pig?

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Neither did Mansa Musa, he hired Arab architects. It's very much the same thing as oil states, some savages just happen to live on top of something worth a lot when sold to civilized people.

The Muisca were a confederacy from Colombia. They had a written language or numerals. They were known for the artistry working gold, similar to the Chibchas in Panama and Costa Rica. They also had bizarre sexual customs including considering virgin girls to be the ugliest so viriginity was not viewed positively. They practiced polygamy and should a woman be found guilty of infidelity in her marriage they made her sleep with the ten ugliest men among them. They also had their own laws, and calendars etc.

Kuhikugu is among the least known of the three I mentioned but they are from the upper xingu region of the Amazon. Archeology here is still finding new things. They also found terra preta here.

>Large defensive ditches and palisades were built around some of the communities at Kuhikugu.[1][3] Large plazas also exist at some of the towns throughout the region, some around 490 feet (150 m) across.[1][3] Many of the communities at Kuhikugu were linked, with roads which bridged some rivers along their paths, and with canoe canals running alongside some of the roads.[3] Fields of mandioca (cassava) may have existed around the communities at Kuhikugu, suggesting that the people there were farmers.[3][4] Dams and ponds which appear to have been constructed in the area also suggest that the inhabitants of Kuhikugu may have been involved with fish farming, which is still practised by some of their modern day Kuikuro descendants.

Arawaks were people who migrated to the Caribbean originally from South America (Brazil and Venezuela).

>Michael Heckenberger, an anthropologist at the University of Florida who helped found the Central Amazon Project, and his team found elaborate pottery, ringed villages, raised fields, large mounds, and evidence for regional trade networks that are all indicators of a complex culture. There is also evidence that they modified the soil using various techniques.

It was, he literally had to take a loan from a local for the way back.

ethiopia is none of that

Really no he only hired architects to build the original mosque many of the others were built before him like Sankore

You know Mali didn't just trade gold and slaves the had there own civilizations

Coincidentally, all those countries have had a history of CIA backed coups and drug running operations. The eternal Cletus is behind it all.

Much of sudano sahelian architecture came before him not mention tichitt and such the stone cities built by the sonnike people

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Ah no entire countries as a whole not just individual cities

You Mali was around before mansa musa right he was just one of many emperors

They didnt really, they were civilized by muslim traders.

>The Sankore mosque was built during the declining years of the Empire of Mali, in the early 15th century A.D.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_West_Africa
As stated the civilizations developed independently and the empires came later

Ah no no they were the oldest settlements predate any Arabic contact
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_West_Africa

Why don't you just combine it into one post? What the fuck is this shit, nigger?

The sahra was uncrossible until the domestication of the camel

By your own logic were Europeans civilized by arabs

The University of Sankore has its roots in the Sankore Mosque which was founded in 989 AD by Al-Qadi Aqib ibn Mahmud ibn Umar,the

Ofcoourse the settlements do, I'm not saying the Malians were descended from Arabs, they just got civilization and architecture from them. Before that, they were stone age people.

ancestors of modern West Africans began entering the area, the development of sedentary farming began to take place in West Africa. The Iron industry, in both smelting and forging for tools and weapons, appeared in Sub-Saharan Africa by 1200 BCE,

Iron working was independently Developed in west africa

Not at all though. Europe was quite civilized by the time the Arabs pushed toward Europe by the 7th century. Forgot about the Romans, Greeks etc?

You know Greek had constant contact with the middle east right how do you think they got the wheel or chairiots they also didn't independently develope agriculture

Both authors concluded that there were major technical flaws in each of the studies claiming independent invention. Three major issues were identified. The first was whether the material dated by radiocarbon was in secure archaeological association with iron-working residues. (Many of the dates from Niger, for example, were on organic matter in potsherds that were lying on the ground surface together with iron objects). The second issue is the possible effect of "old carbon" - wood or charcoal much older than the time at which iron was smelted. This is a particular problem in Niger, where the charred stumps of ancient trees are a potential source of charcoal, and have sometimes been mis-identified as smelting furnaces. A third issue is the inherent lack of precision of the radiocarbon method itself in the range from 800 to 400 BC, which is attributable to irregular production of radiocarbon in the upper atmosphere. Unfortunately most radiocarbon dates for the initial spread of iron metallurgy in sub-Saharan Africa fall within this range.

Agriculture was spread to Europe from the fertile cresent valley

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We have this thread everyday

Wheel and chariots came from the indo-european steppe people, not middle-east. Agriculture was spread by the neolithic farmers, who are closer to modern south Europeans than Levantines or to the even more remote south Arabians.

Not just Niger theres the nok culture also

ancestors of modern West Africans began entering the area, the development of sedentary farming began to take place in West Africa. The Iron industry, in both smelting and forging for tools and weapons, appeared in Sub-Saharan Africa by 1200 BCE,

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_West_Africa

It spread from the fertile cresent valley

you're back again? same pics and all?
it's always you and the mesoamerican guy
unless you're both the same person

Yes, by people who were definitely NOT arabs. Pic related.

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No, wiki is wrong, it was built with Djinguereber and Sidi Yahia in 14-15 right after golden daddy went to Mecca. You should really fucking stop citing mobile wikipedia, lad, especially when it's from a book that was panned for inaccuracies because faggot was moving dates at will. Abu Isḥaq al-Saḥili didn't live in 10 AD. The fuck is wrong with you?

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The mosque not the university

Yeah, founded. Doesn't mean it was anything more than a drafty shack before the arab architect built mosque on the site.

Yes, but by people who were not arabs. More like Sardinian.

Oh, so the university "took roots" (what ever the fuck this means there) in the mosque in 10th that didn't exist for four more centuries, fucking nice, cite me some West African history would don't you.

There could have been some shitty little mud hut mosque on the site, but the big mosque is definitely post-Musa.

Ah no they used sandstone and dry stone until the Saharan dried up

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same thing asshole

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Fucking butthurt spic