How do I get over this depression? It's been killing me slowly since about March

Deadlift more and snap out of it.

This. Find ,optionaly, good gestalt therapeutist near Your home, so You can attend once a week.

you've got chemical imbalances in your brain due to shit genetics

Seriously, therapy and writing. Once you actually get your thoughts down on paper you realize that, yes, your emotions are identifiable and they can be resolved. Having them down on paper, even if it's just "I hate myself" over and over, will make you feel a lot better for declaring it, instead of letting it stew.

nut the fuck up and carry on faggot, plenty of people have it and don't sit there crying about it

t. depressed

Behavioural activation is the answer.

no it's high taxes due to shit socialism. People are depressed because they cannot do shit to improve they lives.

You dont.

So of taxes were 0 no one would be sad? Kiss yourself and fuck off back to pol

>People are depressed because they cannot do shit to improve they lives.
I...actually think this is true

Im in uni right now on my third year and during my first year my gf broke up with me. During my education i learned that after im done im gonna need to work full time with little reward because of progressive taxes and compete for the jobs i want only to have my money going to "new arrivals" and their 3 wives (not even joking)

So why should i bust my ass with no reward only to pay for other peoples living?

1. supplement vit d
2. go outside in the sun
3. social contact everyday
4. talk to someone about your issues
5. dont take SSRI's

>you've got chemical imbalances in your brain due to shit genetics
t. farmashill

'chemical imbalances' have never ever been proven to be true

after a life of it I've gotten used to it

OP is being a faggot

Women truly are disgusting creatures

I'm afraid of prescription drugs and all the side effects. Hopefully I can find a good therapist that can help without that stuff.

Basically this. I consider myself a left-leaning centrist and I'm a bit skeptical of some of the shit Peterson says but he's pretty dead-on and about depression.

For 99% of people depression is caused by their life sucking. You need a social life, you need romantic interests, you need routine, you need some kind of structure to compete within.

I've been on the meds, they're fine if you're constantly contemplating suicide but they're just to numb the pain while you figure your shit out, not a cure in themselves. And exercise is just as effective if not moreso than SSRIs anyway.

Gurren Lagann is also the shit, btw

watch petersson. molymeme and meathead eliot hulse or some shit
learn to accept yourself and stop expecting everyone to care

Cognitive Behavioural Therapy has the best evidence base for the treatment of depression. It also might appeal to you more OP because you say you're not that keen on talking about your problems (The first line of treatment in CBT is behavioural techniques)

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I’ve been on a rollercoaster ride of antidepressants. In the end it’s CBT with lasting benefits. Your world is a reflection of your thoughts.

Have you tried just being happy?

stop being a pussy maybe?

just vent about that shit when you're drunk, thats what i do and i feel better after

for the most part those are symptoms not causes

I think at some point I developed non-meme legit chronic depression.
I feel the same no matter what, I can't remember the last time I experienced a positive emotion, or even an emotion really, and I have no motivation to do anything.
I remember originally this was my ideal "stoic" state because I got hurt bad by a girl and wanted to become so aloof that it would never happen again. I achieved it and now I just want to kill myself. Every morning is a struggle to get out of bed, I just lay there for a few hours praying God to take me.

What job did you get mate? Congrats on the successes

Take the initiative to start working for yourself then

Basic CBT conceptualization of depression:

1) Depressed person has negative view of self, their future and the world around them

Treatment: reality test their assumptions, and challenge their cognitive distortions with critical thinking. Most people operate under cognitive biases that skew their view of the world.

2) Depressed person has fallen into a state of inertia and/or is no longer doing activities that could give a sense of pleasure and achievment

treatment: create an activity diary/schedule, identify those activities that provide the most pleasure and sense of achievement, then increase them. Also, try to identify those activities that could improve pleasure/achievement, then once identified, put them into practice regularly.

That's essentially what you'd do with a CBT therapist.

TLDR: your thoughts and beliefs shape your world, and sitting around on your ass rather than trying to find what gives you pleasure and a sense of mastery is a big part of why you feel bad.

The solution for me to get out of depression was a combination of changing my diet to cut out processed foods, and start exercising 5 days a week. Also cutting negative people out of my life and literally becoming positive about all situations to the point of sarcasm and absurdity. Any time some one asked me, “how are you?” Which is a question that pisses me off, now I say “another day in paradise!” Or “living the dream!” Then I fake laugh real loud and walk away or ignore the person. They seem to take the hint after a few interactions.
Another solution for me was to take the red pill and start listening to a lot of political commentators that I initially got triggered by, like Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson and styxhexenhammer666.
The final mindset I changed was thinking about the triumvirate of overarching personality dynamics. Accuser, Victim, and Rescuer and the roles of those in relation to being Alpha, Beta, and Omega, The way I see it in conversation and actions, the Alpha walks the line between Accuser and Rescuer, whereas the the Beta is a Rescuer or a Victim, and the Omega (somewhat of a schizophrenic rationalizer) is either a Victim or a Accuser. Personally I’ve been mostly an Omega type but I’ve been actively and mindfully changing to Alpha type over time, but Rescuing (sympathizing and comforting others) does not come naturally to me, so it’s a long and arduous process.
The last thing I changed was listening to a wide variety of music from all genres and eras from the 50’s through the 2010’s and distilling the wisdom of repeated themes and the repetition of interesting guitar, bass, and drum combinations.
Reccomended listening from me would be Led Zeppelin, Rush, AC/DC, Amon Amarth.

Serotonin pills and natural sunlight

When I went through a suicidal depression all last year, what finally helped pull me out was talking to a therapist. I only went because I told my best friend I wanted to kill myself and he straight up said, "user, you need to see a therapist." I'm really glad he did.

I had access to a fully paid for EAP (employee assistance program) through my job, and the sessions were bi-weekly just over the phone. I got lucky and had an excellent therapist assigned to me right off the bat, but people have told me its entirely normal to need to try a few before finding a good one.

There's no shame in admitting you need help, OP. We're all gonna make it

Derp I also mentioned the EAP because many workplaces have it. Its 100% anonymous to your employer and as easy to get help from as one phone call. Look into that if you can, OP. You are worth the effort. You're worth taking the time to help

get bloodwork done to check your micronutrients

Isnt serotonin phototoxic? OP this combo could make you blind, do one or the other.

I was diagnosed with depression on december 2016, but I was most likely depressed since early 2015/late 2014.
Two weeks ago I went to my shrink, and I'm off meds now. I had actually been under the medically effective dose since may, because I was basically cured by them, but now I'm officially no longer under a diagnosis of depression. Here's what worked for me.

> Exercise
Weightlifting is good, running is better. Both of them are ideal.

> Nutrition
Don't eat shit, improve your diet.

> Sleep
7 to 8 hours of sleep every night, at least.

These are the basics and if you're early in depression they might hold you off from getting worse. You should absolutely do all 3 of them. Now more complex stuff:

> Medication
Go to a good psychiatrist, try medications, see what works. Medication won't cure you, it'll mainly numb you from the pain and, thus, make it less likely for you to fall deeper into depression.
Don't be a pussy who gives up because of minimal side effects. Actually make an effort.

> Meditation
I didn't meditate but I know it helps a lot.

> Therapy
What and said are spot on. CBT is good.

> Positive, life-affirming and self-responsibility philosphy
Can't recommend Jordan Peterson enough, listen to his classes. Other anons have the same experience ( ). Try the Self-Authoring Program. There're pastebins with the program for free if you don't want to pay.

> Friends
Cut out friends who are pulling you down. Cut out people who get salty when you experience joy and happiness. Don't associate with people who are giving in to depression and self-pity.

> Self-image
Stop saying you're shit/a failure/whatever, if you're doing that. Start thinking good things about yourself. Doesn't matter if they're a lie, just stop throwing yourself down.

I feel exactly this way
Its like hell but its your life and its the only thing you get
Im completely dead inside. Not sure if thats even depression, its just a complete apathy and lack of feeling/emotion
I can still respond to stuff but I dont chemically feel it in my body

The absolute state of women

is this chloe moretz?.. oh.. oh..

how come every girl looks likethe 3 in the op's pic

>"women"

>a left-leaning centrist and I'm a bit skeptical of some of the shit Peterson says

Peterson has never been wrong about anything. His opinions are immensely more qualified and researched than the 27 year old journalists you get your opinions from

> For 99% of people depression is caused by their life sucking. You need a social life, you need romantic interests, you need routine, you need some kind of structure to compete within.

Mostly true. relevant: Maslows hierarchy of needs

> 5. dont take SSRI's

No, if you are suicidal you should consult a doctor and try them. And if they don't work then tell you doctor and try something else. Im on Mirtazapine.

It's probably significantly lower than 99%.

>Deadlift
>snap
you got that right

Take medicine if needed, your stress and depression is far more damaging for your body than some pills. I'm on lexapro, mirtazapine and lamictal and I go to the gym regulary. Without them I would be weak as shit.

>Peterson has never been wrong anything.

The poster you quoted just expressed skepticism, which is the rational attitude, rather than accepting it whole hog like you've obviously done.

find me 1 quote by him where he is wrong

>666

The devil always tells you things you want to hear. "It's not your fault, it's just the way things are, you can't fix it, no reason to even try, might as well keep watching Cuck and Morty and smoking or intellectual plant and eating garbage."

that isn't how it works dumbass. Find me 1 quote by Karl Marx where he is wrong. Peterson isn't a scientist he's a theorist who published a theory that can be disagreed with and contradicted, but not exactly proven wrong.

I don't understand why so many retards on this shitty website love him so much.

Microdose LSD for a month. Look it up
Purpose is to not trip but to alter negative though patterns in your head.
thethirdwave.co/microdosing-with-lsd/

>tfw used to be super happy
>best friend dies out of the blue from lymphoma
>shatters my confidence and rocks me to my very core
>can't fucking deal with anything any more, super unhappy, don't have time for therapy since i started a college course that leaves me maybe 1 and a half days a week to myself
>have to wait until november to start

can't wait until I have enough time to start lifting again, I just want to pick up shit and forget

No alcohol
No porn
Get enough sleep
No weed
Lots of fruits and vegetables
Try to have conversations with people, even if it is just "Hi how are You?" To the cashier

I have had a reflex thought of "kill yourself" since I was about 15.
23 now, frequency depends on how life is going at the moment.
Sometimes it will occur if I forget to indicate, or if life is getting stressful.
Its just there and I continue.

>The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism
Your turn faggot

Learn history you angry jew. 10% taxes was considered high in 1700 now I have 23% vat for everything (without food).

> Find me 1 quote by Karl Marx where he is wrong.

OK FAGGOT I DID ONE. ITS YOUR TURN. GIVE ME ONE (1) (O.N.E.) JORDAN PETERSON QUOTE WHERE HE IS WRONG

PUSSY

hahah how's that been proven false? since Marx said it we've never had an absence of opposition to socialism.

you are extremely stupid for liking Jordan Peterson so much. maybe he's got some good ideas you like but sucking his dick like you're doing makes you as stupid as every dipshit in ISIS.

Find a single dictionary entry where peace is defined in those terms. I'll even give you the benefit of any language, not just English.
You won't find that definition, because it is wrong. Meanwhile, you have yet to provide a quote from Peterson which is false.

this isn't proving Marx wrong you fucking idiot. This is one person, like I explained, disagreeing with his analysis. You could JUST as easily disagree with what this critic said.

this also wasn't the point of why I said that. I'm going to assume you look at people who worship Marx uncritically as huge dumbasses. you should recognize that that's exactly what you're doing if you follow someone like Peterson.

Meditation

hahah you're so stupid. That's Marx defining peace in his terms. It's not a thing you can exactly prove "wrong." Peterson does the same shit with defining "meaning" in certain terms. That's why you won't find his definiton of "meaning" in a dictionary, and it's why he had to write a whole book about it dumbass.

I swear to God. I just come here to read about lifting I don't know why this asshole comes up all the fucking time.

>tfw I wish there was something actually wrong with my life

If there was something actually bad about my life I would be justified in feeling depressed, instead I have a good/fulfilling job, make enough money, have friends, gf who loves me, etc. And I still feel empty inside. If there was something wrong I'd at least have something I could work towards.

> The bourgeoisie has stripped of its halo every occupation hitherto honored and looked up to with reverent awe. It has converted the physician, the lawyer, the priest, the poet, the man of science, into its paid wage laborers.
> The bourgeoisie has torn away from the family its sentimental veil, and has reduced the family relation to a mere money relation.”
> ― Karl Marx, The Communist Manifesto

lawyers priests poets and scientists can all be respected in capitalist societies. Its possible for any of them to be business owners and to sell their own products and services - they don't need to be paid an hourly wage.

hardly anyone in capitalist western societies sees family relations as merely financial. That doesnt even make sense. Why have kids when they cost you $200k to raise and send to college? Parents dont have kids to make them money.

the point wasn't to argue about Karl Marx, but to point out that Peterson's just one of many other guys who have a particular system of thought that you can agree with or disagree with.

But the idea that he has NEVER been wrong, like he's some infallible prophet, is extremely stupid and no independently thinking person with any sense could possibly think that.

STILL WAITING FOR ONE QUOTE WHERE HE IS WRONG, FAGGOT.

YOU'VE BEEN GIVEN 3 WHERE MARX WAS SHOWN TO BE TOTALLY WRONG NOW.

> You could JUST as easily disagree with what this critic said.
NO YOU FUCKING COULDN'T, DUMBASS. EVERYONE HE WROTE IS A PROVABLE FACT. POST ONE SENTENCE FROM MY CRITIC WHICH IS NOT A PROVEN FACT- YOU CANT.

Stop masturbating

> hahaha you're stupid. He is using his own definition that nobody uses, so of course his definition is true!

Fucking MORON

YOU ABSOLUTE FUCKING FAGGOT. POST ONE FUCKING QUOTE WHERE PETERSON IS WRONG. YOU'VE BEEN GIVEN 3 (THREE). POST ONE FUCKING QUOTE YOU FUCKING FAGGOT.

SO POST ME A QUOTE WHERE HE IS WRONG THEN IF ITS SO EASY

WHY THE FUCK AM I STILL HEARING THESE EXCUSES

FAGGOT

POST ONE (O . N . E) 1 1 1 11 1 1 1 1 1 11 QUOTE

lol holy shit calm down man. maybe it'd be better for you to just put Peterson's dick back in your mouth so you'd stop shouting

Yes it is. If you have never had depression you are lucky.
However, don't come on here saying it's not real, it is and I have experienced it first hand. It sucks and I'm glad I went and talked to someone about it. The gym helped alot also.

marx wasnt necessarily wrong on this one, but his refutations on Stirnerian egoism are autistically long; marx was like the guy who types paragraphs in a breakup and stirner was like the girl who responded with "k"

They can serve as both. It's called a vicious cycle.

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look at you melting down man, and over some little-known thinker nobody gives a fuck about but a small collection of people on the internet, whom you worship like Jesus

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Will you call down you autistic spaz. You're not helping your case coming off like a jackass as you are. Jesus Christ,act like an adult.

hahah I haven't wasted my time reading that dipshit

well there are three options
it's going to kill you, it's going to keep on killing you slowly, or you're going to make it

This, and go to Church, start praying, and also St. John's Wort.
>examine.com/supplements/hypericum-perforatum/
>When St. John's Wort was compared to Tricyclic Antidepressants (TCAs) and SSRIs, the respective Odds ratio benefitting St. John's Wort were 1.02 and 1.00 respectively; suggesting that the was no practical difference between the pharmaceuticals and St. John's Wort. Additionally, dropouts associated with St. Johns wort were significantly less than both TCAs (OR of 0.24) and SSRIs (OR of 0.53) suggesting that St. John's wort has less side-effects.

God-speed, user.

Gurren Lagann is a cure in itself. God I remember watching that series and feeling hella inspired to turn my life around.
It likely hit me so hard because of where I was in life to begin with, but man I really needed it.

Stop resisting your thoughts, emotions and experiences. Also go do things.

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Embrace the inevitability of death. It is the only way to live life as a free man.