What are some seemingly obvious historical facts that everyone just seems to...

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

What are some seemingly obvious historical facts that everyone just seems to have forgotten?

Like the fact that Australia fought in the Vietnam war. pic related, these are Aussie troops

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youtube.com/watch?v=ItW5ae3F35Q
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13th_Waffen_Mountain_Division_of_the_SS_Handschar_(1st_Croatian)#Formation,_training_and_mutiny
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov–Ribbentrop_Pact
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German–Soviet_Axis_talks
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi–Soviet_economic_relations_(1934–41)
youtube.com/watch?v=kVo5I0xNRhg
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halbmondlager
vimeo.com/128373915

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Fascism had a huge influence over the Middle East and Latin America long after WW2 and a lot of the political history of those places can only be understood in that context.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

t. Rising Storm 2 player

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

youtube.com/watch?v=ItW5ae3F35Q

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AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

That panslavism was stronger than Nazi ideology and Islamic doctrine combined in the most unexpected of places

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13th_Waffen_Mountain_Division_of_the_SS_Handschar_(1st_Croatian)#Formation,_training_and_mutiny

Spamalot
Spamalot

One of their cruisers was the victim of the single most successful air-to-sea surface attack ever made by helicopter. Two helos from the DRV-N did $(A)25,000,000 in damage without taking a single casualty themselves.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

We never forget the aussies

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takes2long
takes2long

Aircraft carrier that rams own ships not once, but twice
Submarines that sit in drydock for literally decades for lack of crew
The RAN is such a meme

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Instead of starting a shit thread, how bout we talk about the anzac troops in the 60s-70s?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Australia started the Vietnam war.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

We didn't start it, we just browbeat the Americans into putting more combat troops there so they'd be closer in case Indonesia tried to fuck with our New Guinea

Firespawn
Firespawn

Belgium saved France in WWI, in few days of fight they changed the face of the world.

SniperWish
SniperWish

Frenchies were in the Vietnam war seems forgotten

DeathDog
DeathDog

Americans started it in the 1940s when they funded Ho Chi Minh against the Nips.

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TechHater
TechHater

Frenchies pulled out of the Indo-China war. Am kind of interested in how their colonial rule transferred to the south vietnamese and then americans took in, anyone got a quick rundown?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

South Koreans fought in Nam and they were vicious as fuck

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Watch the movie Quiet American

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Watch the movie

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Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Nazis didn't start the war on the belief of purity of the white power. Although now a days, Nazis are purely known for racism, this wasn't that they were known for back then. Back then, Nazi Germany were simply another European power fighting against each other. The later racist nazi revision came after.

This isn't to say Nazis weren't racist, they were. They just weren't special since every western country was a racist country at the time.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

I assumed you were American. You can read the book too.

Soft_member
Soft_member

Interesting fact, Germans in the 1960s were polled about what was the worst tragedy in German history, vast majority of them said 30 Years War. And these were people who lived through WW2. But when the poll was replicated in the 1990s, most Germans answered WW2/Holocaust.

cum2soon
cum2soon

Eastern Front was only the Wehrmacht vs the Red Army

Emberfire
Emberfire

Nazi Germany were simply another European power fighting against each other. The later racist nazi revision came after.

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Skullbone
Skullbone

Not very well, to fight the Viet Minh the French had given power to criminal syndicates like the Binh Xuyen, Cao Dai and Hoa Hao that styled themselves as religious organizations when in reality they were basically the local mafia (this is where the "French connection" to the heroin trade starts). Naturally Diem didn't want to deal with having a military besides his own and the French secret service didn't want to give up it's highly lucrative heroin smuggling route so they decided to launch a coup. The Binh Xuyen launched an attack in Saigon and the French blocked the roads to the Vietnamese army when the Binh Xuyen got BTFO but this only lasted a little while even with Savani (the most senior French secret service agent there) in command and the Binh Xuyen and with it French influence was fucked. Then Bao Dai was deposed and Diem became president and American involvement really starts

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Not him but I think it's true. Both my grandpas fought against Germany and they never had a word about the racism side of this war. Not even sure they knew about the existence of the jews. They were just fighting against the good old Kraut. (also keep in mind this generation was racist as fuck in general)

WebTool
WebTool

hahaha those Americans amirite
Let's face it, you are probably too much of a turbopleb to even know who Graham Greene is without googling.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

I actually have the book my obese friend.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

fuckin plebes Graham Green is an actor

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Winston Churchill REALLY wanted the war and pushed for it.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

4:00
the expression on that guy's face
"I should've waited. I should've yelled out, but I didn't know what to tell out, so I just let it rip. And that's three people now who are dead who shouldn't be dead."
"...And it's a woman, a baby, and a little kid. Gone, gone for good. You know, what am I, in the right, or what?"
"And I've been living for that for 10 years. You say something to someone, and they say 'You're an arsehole'. But I was 19 years old, and I was sent there."
"And before I was 20, I blew away three people. And for what? Nothing."

Vietnam vets are honestly the most underappreciated, tormented people to have existed on this earth.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

majority white
[Distant sound of Australians laughing]

whereismyname
whereismyname

Didn't fucking help us in Timor.

Supergrass
Supergrass

Germany had a chance to win WW2 if they did x
face it nazifags, they never stood a chance as soon as the western powers declared war on them

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Indian motorcycles never recovered from WWI. H-D and Indian produced cycles for the war effort, but Harley was big enough to continue concurrent civilian production. After the war, Indian found they had lost their market and went out of business for decades.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

JFK was dead set against US involvement in Southeast Asia. The hawks prevailed after the assassination and LBJ was easy pickins.

farquit
farquit

US was involved in there long before Kennedy's death.

WebTool
WebTool

In my opinion there were two VERY slim chances:
(1) maintaining the """friendly""" relationship with the USSR to get continuous oil deliveries from them to continue the war against the UK - with no involvement of the US and the whole of Europe subjugated this might have been possible
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov–Ribbentrop_Pact
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German–Soviet_Axis_talks
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi–Soviet_economic_relations_(1934–41)
(2) Focus the 1941 offensive on the Caucasus instead of Moscow, dig in during the winter to save the experienced troops, take and hold the Caucasus without going into Stalingrad in 1942 - cutting off the Volga to stop supplies up north whilst extracting oil from the Caucasian oil fields. With the loss of the agricultural and industrial areas of Ukraine and the loss of the Caucasian oil fields the Soviets might collapse: youtube.com/watch?v=kVo5I0xNRhg

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AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

They have a really OP chopper in RS2:V

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Platoon...Apocalypse Now...Full Metal Jacket...no Aussie characters.

Shame Hollywood never acknowledged Aussie soldiers either. Many Australians were drafted and killed in Vietnam. Lest we forget.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Odd Angry Shot is probably the least politically inclined Vietnam film

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Unironically this. If Belgium had denmarked, the BEF would have been lost without the time used to maneuver the French army to protect them and cover their escape
But there weren't really any frenchmen. Most of them were FFL, and at the time, the FFL was mostly German veterans

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

The Bushranger? It's fucking shit tier and only on one map.

cum2soon
cum2soon

Aussie soldiers were a fucking meme, what pisses me off is that these movies don't depict ARVN which was the largest fighting force.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

The 30 years war did kill 2/3 of the population in some areas.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Yeah I was agreeing with that sentiment.

Soft_member
Soft_member

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halbmondlager
There's also this.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

it actually made sense in some context
US troops were primarily used as a frontline fighting force,close to the North while ARVN was mostly relegated to holding up captured land

Evilember
Evilember

Platoon literally portrays some faggots patrolling the border back and forth. Full Metal Jacket depicts the battle of Hue where ARVN was the most numerous fighting force IRL. Apocalypse Now has some alcoholic riding a boat to a jungle to assassinate an obese guy.
frontline
Vietnam
No such thing really.

askme
askme

hurr fuck you america for not making movies about my countries history!
why dont you make your own movies faggot

Methshot
Methshot

fuck off sepos

I wish you'd leave us alone and let us shoot roos in peace

unfortunately our cuck politicians love sucking the cock of american business however

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

JFK ordered the assassination of the the south vietnamese president you dope.

girlDog
girlDog

Not only that but the US was literally bombing Laos ever since the late 50s and Kennedy only increased it.

DeathDog
DeathDog

Where the crushing majority of the fighting in WW2 took place. I still have trouble visualising combat in East Europe and China.
vimeo.com/128373915

Inmate
Inmate

Because the ARVN fucking suck at fighting. Their generals are even bigger liars than the Weimarch generals in WW2. Most of their victories relied upon their superior equipment and those victories are lackluster at best.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

t. Amerimutt