Steroids and puberty

taking roids in puberty is retarded, you'd get gyno for sure. During puberty natural test production is huge, which is why gyno is so common in teenagers and goes away later. As long as you eat a lot and lift, it's completely unnecessary. Also too much test fucks you up if you're not fully grown yet anyway, weird bone shit.
Instead, people should get on trt in their early 20s when their natural test has dropped off, when they actually need it. Also shoulders getting wider is because you're going through fucking puberty, it has nothing to do with test.

>"Those Jews are stopping us from taking steroids as youth. They don't want us to realize our masculine potential. We should all take steroids, who cares about stunted growth? Being a strong masculine manlet is great! You wouldn't want to be an effeminate lanklet, would you you stupid goyim?"

please give me evidence for this, there is an overwhelming evidence that ESTROGEN is the sole cause of your growth plates sealing and testosterone can vastly accelerate height velocity (but diminish overall height when estrogen is not accounted for), plus teenagers can recover from TRT with no PCT or ai in less than 1.5 years

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Veeky Forums isn't reddit.

I'm not sure why you felt the need to mention that, however.

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>tfw 22 and literally constant 24/7 erection

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>please give me evidence for this, there is an overwhelming evidence that...
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I was 17 with narrow shoulders and wide hips so i took 12.5mg of arimidex ED and my shoulders got wider.

I'm probably just gonna run this until I die.
got a blood test done and my test is outside the natty range and my estro is super low.

Wish I started when I was younger, I would probably be taller as estrogen is the prime factor in the fusion of epiphyseal (growth) plates

degruyter.com/view/j/jpem.2005.18.3/jpem.2005.18.3.285/jpem.2005.18.3.285.xml

onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-2265.2006.02499.x/full

joe.endocrinology-journals.org/content/182/1/165.short

academic.oup.com/jcem/article-lookup/doi/10.1210/jcem.81.2.8636281

eje-online.org/content/113/4_Suppl/S147.short

degruyter.com/view/j/jpem.2000.13.issue-s6/jpem-2000-s619/jpem-2000-s619.xml

I hate to dish anybody, but im seriously pissed off. I couldve had it all, I wouldn't of had been 5'4 with wide fucking hips. I have great dental structure but ive been hypogonadal my whole life.

You seriously believe sex hormones dont affect bone development? Oh well then lets go max out our estrogen during puberty! yeah that'll do completely fine. turner syndrome patients that are treated with var literally get broader shoulders. Fuck off with your misinformation

Taking testosterone increases estrogen levels as well, so they'd close faster and the kid would grow shorter, since testosterone doesn't directly affect how tall you grow. This is why kids going through puberty and people taking steroids both experience gyno- the increased testosterone leads to increased estrogen which causes gyno. The kid would have to be taking HGH along with test if he'd want to grow more, but then you'd end up with enlarged organs, and nobody wants a 13 year old to die of a heart attack. Bonus points if you live in America, the 13 year old gets heart surgery, and the parents are now hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt.

thats why the kid needs to not be retarded and take some letro. or hell even letro alone will vastly do the trick

why the fuck i read this in sam's voice

that post was charls actually but I post here a lot so you probably saw a few of my hot tips on how to not be a chronically weak beta male pussy

wait I have gyno because I have too much test?

dude sweet

>the chad puberty

actually you can suffer high estrogen without getting gyno as long as you have good enough dht

Source for Letrozole? I'll send my kik

Should teens supplement vitamin d and zinc or is that bad for their growth

do you watch porn?

OK, completely memes aside here:

Why not just put teenage boys on growth hormone so he gains a few extra inches?

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Cardiovascular decline is the leading cause of ED.

Get Veeky Forums and take zinc.

>Cause it shuts your growth plate
False. It does have more side effects for teens, but the thing about lifting or steroids stunting your height growth is a total myth and false.

anecdote on this one but risks of acromegaly and such seem pretty bad

This. but imo the pros will always outweigh the cons, i.e if youre gonna be an incel for the rest of your life does your sperm even matter?

Damn dude, atleast you got some benefit in time

is that why teenagers dont actually take gear? niggs google letrozole research chem, ask your pharmacy (it might be otc), or ask big bodybuilders at various gyms. theyll have

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12.5mg adex? you mean aromasin right?

The only conspiracy is numales not being man enough to make their own test and have to pay money for it

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letro is insanely harsh, you know that right? There's a very good reason us /frauds/ don't touch it unless you've got insanely bad gyno that nolva won't get rid of. letro is fucking awful, awful shit. just run aromasin conservatively if you want to lower your estrogen, and more importantly pin test to not be a faggot.

you're not gonna get that unless you pin HGH, but the potential for LVH is very real

>estrogen in the water from birth control
>psuedoestrogen from plastic water bottles
>psuedoestrogen from soy
>psuedoestrogen from fucking everything
yes goyim keep thinking that taking control of your own hormones is numale

cause you fap all day to increasingly stranger shit?

this is a great feel. 30 now and my dick doesn't get really stiff like it used to

i want to roid so fucking bad but i really dont want to be stuck takeing drugs for the rest of my life. I dont want to not afford it one cycle and then be fucked until i can pin again

youtu.be/tAAAbwEtZRo

If you're taking gear because you can't control your own test level you're paying people to take control of it, goyim

Katyuska Moonfox, a cosplayer.

No idea where the pic is from. Might be a patreon thing.

same bro what a fucked up fate we men must live
there are animals where their penis has a literal bone in it so they can fuck for their entire lives
what the fuck man

Cheers lad

>not buying UGL test and handling your TRT yourself instead of kike doctors keeping your 200ngl test where it is
shiggy diggy

Test is $65 for a months-ish supply running 500 mg / wk, which is blast level. For cruise / TRT, it's max 200 - 250 mg / wk. Sometimes as low as 150 mg / wk

Katyuska Moonfox

>wait I have gyno because I have too much test?
no

Maybe, actually. In puberty it's sometimes because your hormones are fucked up and you just have high estrogen, but it's also sometimes because you have high test so your body compensates with raising estrogen