Why were there no German or pro-German partisans on the Eastern front?

Why were there no German or pro-German partisans on the Eastern front?

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because the nazis made the soviets look sane by comparison

There were, particular from the Baltics and Ukraine

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There were no anti-German partisans in Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania.
The forest brothers fought against the commies

Why would there be?
Those weren't partisans.

there were anti-german partisans in the baltics

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latvian_anti-Nazi_resistance_movement_1941–45
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estonian_anti-German_resistance_movement_1941–44
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resistance_in_Lithuania_during_World_War_II

Waffen SS weren't Partisans. The closest you'd get to a "pro-German" partisan force on the Eastern Front would be Chechens.

Belarus had the Black Cats and Ukraine had the UIA, but both were more or less just allies of convenience for Germany and betrayed them on several occasions. They weren't dedicated nazis.

It's very hard for Germans to form partisans to fight for them in the east when they were bent on exterminating all the locals. Had they not been genocidal, they probably could have organized lots of anti-soviet forces

Gee i wonder why...

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of course there were some underground resistance but it was purely to re-establish the independence these countries lost during the WWII. They were anti-communist and didn't fight against the Germans

What the fuck did the latgalians ever do to Germany?

what exactly are you saying? these are explicitly anti german groups

don't muddy their cause with your fascist sympathies

>Fuck Latgalians in particular

dude, I'm from one of these countries so I think I know my history. I wasn't saying that the local population loved Germans, far from that. There just wasn't any armed resistance because the people knew what the Soviets are capable of.
The main goal (no matter how naive it sounds) was that to keep the Red Army from occupying the Baltics again.
We were hoping for the Brits and Americans to give us the helping hand..not knowing they had sold us (and the rest of the Eastern Europe) to Stalin.
If the Anglos had decided to launch a landing on the coast of Baltics the people (and the army units) would have turned their weapons against the Nazis

>The forest brothers
Funny that, there was an anti-commie movement in Bulgaria after 1944 called "goryani" which means "people from the forest"

Himmler:

Psychology of the Slavs

>And now, back to the Slavs! I consider it necessary to speak to each other about this once again. Whether it's Peter the Great or the late Czars, whether it's Lenin or Stalin, they know their own people. They are perfectly well aware that the concepts of "loyalty", "never betraying", "never conspiring", have no place in the Russian vocabulary.

>Whatever people may tell you about the Russians, it's all true. It's true that some of the Russians are fervently pious, and fervently believe in the Mother of God of the Khasans or someplace else, it's absolutely true. It's true that the Volga boatmen sing beautifully; it's true that the Russian of today, in modern times, is a good improviser and good technician. It's true, for the most part, that he's even a lover of children. It's true that he can work very hard. And it's just as true that he is stinking lazy. It's just as true that he is an uninhibited beast, who can torture and torment other people in ways a devil would never permit himself to think of. It's just as true that the Russian, high or low, is inclined to the most perverse of things, even devouring his comrades or keeping his neighbour's liver in his lunch bag. It's all part of the scale of feelings and values of the Slavic peoples. It's often purely a matter of chance which lot he draws; and to people who don't know the beast, he is often a very great riddle: what is the fellow up to now?

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>The Russians themselves know each other very well, and have invented a very practical system, whether it was the Czars with the Okrana, or Mr. Lenin and Mr. Stalin with the GPU or the NKVD. When four Russians get together, with little father, little mother, and their little children, not one of the 4 or 5 knows who is betraying whom at the moment: which one is the informer betraying the father now: is it the mother, or the daughter? And who, in return, is betraying them? In doubtful cases there may be two, even three, informers in this family. I am not exaggerating. This remark is entirely accurate with regards to the city. In the countryside, our comrades who have been over there in the East can confirm that there are still 20 or 30 NKVD informers and agents in every village, even after the withdrawal of the Bolsheviks. This ensures, to an absolute certainty, that no conspiracy can get started, because everything will still be reported to the top by means of this informer apparatus. Then comes the pistol or deportation, and that is how this entire people must be governed.

Himmler, Zhytomir 1942:

>"How did all Slavic, Polish, Russian and other nations? They - the typical product of mix of Nordic-Germanic remnants of the upper layer and lower layer."

>"This layer controls the Mongoloid bottom layer, and, gradually Nordic-German layer mixed with the bottom layer. Hence, appear are all these ladies with blue eyes, these women with wide hips, but nevertheless blond hair or other, the narrow-faced, but with Mongolian structure of the body, or the men and women of Nordic physique, but squnting eyes or with dark eyes or with cheekbones, that is typical Slavs."

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Himmler, 1943:

Russian soldiers on our side

>One thing is a matter of course in this war: it is better for a Russian to die than a German. If we use the Russians, then they must be mixed with Germans in a ratio of 1:2 to 1:3. The best thing is to use individual Russians; then you can drive with them in a tank. One Russian with 2 or 3 Germans in a tank, magnificent, nothing wrong. But you must never let one Russian meet other tank-driving Russians, otherwise the boys will conspire. But if you wish to have Russian-only companies for some reason, then be careful, gentlemen — and that is not just a thought, gentlemen, that is an order, gentlemen — they must have their informer apparatus, their NKVD, in this company. Then you can sleep in peace. Otherwise, this is one of the earliest warnings I've issued, take care that these sub-humans always look at you; they must always look their superior in the eye. It's like with animals. As long as an animal looks his tamer in the eye, he won't try anything. But have no doubt about one thing: he is a beast. We will able to utilize the Russians with this attitude; with this attitude we shall be superior to the Slavs at all times. But not with any other attitude.

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>For the SS Man, one principle must apply absolutely: we must be honest, decent, loyal, and comradely to members of our own blood, and to no one else. What happens to the Russians, the Czechs, is totally indifferent to me. Whatever is available to us in good blood of our type, we will take for ourselves, that is, we will steal their children and bring them up with us, if necessary. Whether other races live well or die of hunger is only of interest to me insofar as we need them as slaves for our culture; otherwise that doesn't interest me. Whether 10,000 Russian women fall down from exhaustion in building a tank ditch is of interest to me only insofar as the tank ditches are finished for Germany.

Koch's first act as Reichskommissar was to close local schools, declaring that "Ukraine children need no schools. What they'll have to learn will be taught them by their German masters."[1] His brutality is best exemplified by his remark, "If I meet a Ukrainian worthy of being seated at my table, I must have him shot."[8] Koch worked together with the General Plenipotentiary for Labour Deployment (Generalbevollmächtigter für den Arbeitseinsatz) Fritz Sauckel in providing the Reich with forced labor. He was also involved in the persecution of Polish and Ukrainian Jews. Due to his brutal actions, Nazi rule in Ukraine was disturbed by a growing number of partisan uprisings.[1]
Statements about the Germans as a Herrenvolk (gentleman race) belong to the Nazi officials of various ranks. In particular when Reichskommissar Ukraine Erich Koch said:
We are a master race, which must remember that the lowliest German worker is racially and biologically a thousand times more valuable than the population here.

—Erich Koch, March 5th 1943, [9]

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>Why were there no German or pro-German partisans on the Eastern front?
There were. Tens of thousands died at Stalingrad alone. Not to mention the SS popularity in the Baltic.

>Germans purposefully starve the people of Eastern Europe, destroy their towns, villages, and cities
>Murder the Polish intelligentsia (Operation Tannenberg, Intelligenzaktion, Palmiry massacre, AB-Aktion)
>Subject Soviet POWs to starvation, forced labor, and brutality that results in over 3 million of them perishing
>Begin "Germanization" of Poland by suppressing and trying to erase any trace of their history and culture, which included plans to completely restructure Warsaw.
>Enslave millions of innocent Soviet citizens to prop up the German war machine.
>Use propaganda to portray Russians as being inferior subhumans
>"Ukraine children need no schools. What they'll have to learn will be taught them by their German masters." - Gauleiter Erich koch
>"We are a master race, which must remember that the lowliest German worker is racially and biologically a thousand times more valuable than the population here." - Gauleiter Erich koch

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Balts and Ukrainians were marching into their own extinction. But for some unknown reason Balts on Veeky Forums fail to realise that they were part of GPOst as well.

>There were no anti-German partisans
There were, they just were reported to Gestapo by "nationalist" balts.

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>And these people screech about "jewish subversion" and muslim taqqiya.

Ach ja, don't even get me started on Latgalians. I mean, the way they behave, the way they speak, how can you imagine such a thing?!

And the crimes they have committed against the German people... Indescribable! I'm literally lost for words, I cannot explain it.

>Stalin
>Slav
Why was Hitler such a brainlet?

There were some groups that supported the Germans on occasions.

Truth is, when the Nazis first came, the population regarded them as liberators from Soviet tyranny.
However, soon enough, their behavior showed what the Nazis really were.

OUN-UPA
Forest Bros
Yugoslav Chetniki (at some moment)
National-Socialist party of Caucasian Brothers
Militia of Republic Lokot

>the western allies (I'm assuming they were captured by the western allies) didn't immediately disembowel these people with bayonets in an undisclosed location and then incinerate their remains as to avoid hero worship

God the british and americans were so fucking soft. The western allies were never serious about defeating nazi germany, they would have rather seen the soviets wiped off the face of the earth than put forth an effort to confront these people. It's almost like d-day was more about making sure the soviets didn't have ALL of mainland europe to themselves rather than a desire to combat the nazis.

Probably because the Germans organised their foreign supporters in Waffen-SS divisions. No point being a partisan then.

There were alot, there were forest brothers and banderists for a start

Do you actually know what a partisan is?

Not partisans.

I agree with what you're saying but you need to stop posting that pic. That man isn't Michael Wittmann nor is he SS

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wow

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bump

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There were in Ukraine.

Kaminski's RONA could be taken as such, I think.

just being a massive dick to people who didnt do anything was kinda germanys thing in WW2...

Cuz there were Soviet partisans, why not German ones, not even in 1945?

The Ukrainian insurgent army and Chetniks sometimes collaborated with the nazis.

God damn that Nazi 2nd to the left looks sexy as fucc

id suck his cock

God, himmler was such a fucking larping retard

There were at first, they saw the nazis as liberators against the soviets.

Then the whole "slavs are subhumans we must destroy" shit started

/thread

10% of the german army at Stalingrad were russian

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there were 10s of thousands of anti-German partisans waging armed conflict wat

i'm waiting for the source

Be a small enough group to warrant a 100% extermination.

not in the Baltics

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>you're fast, kid, I'll give you that...
>*teleports in front of you*
>but not fast enough

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Because partisans are myth. Small amount of saboteurs were in all countries. For example, they destroyed heavy water plant in Norway.

>Albania had a government with control of most of the country before the soviets got there
yeah nah m8

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>Albania had a government with control of most of the country before the soviets got there
After retreati of German army? Great achivement.
What towns were controlled by "government" during German occupation? Bullshit about "red villages" isnt counted, nobody cares about dirty peasants and their thoughts.

Be in the way, enough reason to be targeted for liquidation for the Germans

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Liberation_Army

There were, and you know what happened to them? They surrendered to the Allies were taken to Britain, were tricked into giving up their weapons under false pretenses and were then sent back to the USSR, where nearly all of them died in Siberia.

probably because the nazi ideology was that anything a german did to a non-german was inherently justified because germans are racially superior

I already posted this, but yours was ten times as conceited and bombastic, so I want it to be pointed at you
>And these people screech about brainlets believing anything they sentimentally incline towards
You fucking brainlet pseud. Fuck off to /pol/ and get gang raped by fat autistic tradcaths you subhuman.

Himmler you dipshit learn to read.

>it's a pathetic neo-nazis wonder why more people didn't follow their retarded ideology thread

Really makes you think... that you lumpenproles deserve the gulag.