Is depression a meme?

> throw away their gains, social life, friends because of "depression", they will sit in the house alone, be aloof when in public and all types of strange things

so... im depressed huh

What this guy said. Many people who say they are depressed just have a chronic case of the "sads". But there's a huge difference between actual depression where you go through every day empty, uninterested, not getting joy from anything, loathing yourself and wanting to die no matter how good your life actually is, and just being sad because life isn't going your way at the moment.

Wow didn't know Veeky Forums was so full of armchair scientists. Maybe you guys should have tried cleaning the sand out of your vaginas instead of going to the pill dispensary

Holy fuck Veeky Forums is full of beta faggots. You guys think lifting is going to help you when your metal state is this pathetic? You guys are chasing a dream thinking lifting will suddenly change who you are between your ears. Stop feeling sorry for yourself, and go out with initiative and change your life.

I lift cos it’s fun lmao

I don't think anyone you quoted claimed to lift for our mental state. I lift to stay healthy and because I enjoy it. Kudos to you for never having dealt with depression. For many of us it's not as simple as making life changes. There's not a whole lot to change for me. I have a successful career, a family, am financially sound and life is good. But even with all that, without a little help from meds, my life seems like a total waste, and I struggle just getting out of bed. I fought it and faked it for years but I'm glad that I finally ditched your "suck it up and stop being a pussy" mentality.

Depression is a first world problem, it's an existential crisis.

I read a book long ago ( IIRC, The True Believer by Eric Hoffer) and he said that in war time, nobody is depressed. Scared, hungry, angry, hurt ... but not depressed and suicidal.

>Making a decision to positively change your body won't help you
>Advice is 'Just get over it lmao'
t. Brainlet

In my experience(not personal) the biggest problem with depressed people is that the reason they can't get out of depression is because they can't get out of depression. It is a self perpetuating state in which there's plenty things to do, but you just don't want or can't to the point where even you are past this condition a mental scar is left. My message to these people and those that want to help them: if there's anything you can do, please do it.

>medical science and neurochemistry are bullshit hurr durr
>go out with initiative and change your life
>except certain positive lifestyle changes like getting fit don't count for some reason

>tfw I gained 150 pounds due to depression

It can be a meme but when it's not, it's truly a terrible thing. I'll randomly get depressed every 5 or 6 weeks and from there it will last 2-3 weeks, and during this time I lose all passion, motivation, drive, happiness, and any desire to do anything. It turns me into an apathetic waste of space. But I don't kill myself because I understand that it's only temporary, and I need to wait it out.

Sounds to me like you are being a pussy.

How the fuck do you gain a person in weight due to depression?

Depression is a nutritional deficiency. Take some magnesium. With protein so it absorbs well.

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too many sad cunts. they aren't depressed, they are just losers
not enough sick cunts

same though its usually 1-2 weeks long and comes and goes every 4 weeks

>Source: got depressed, tried to tough it out, eventually cracked and saw a psych, went on SSRI and suddenly realized how toxic my mental state had become before the ssri.
can you elaborate? I've been considering goint to see a shrink for around 3 years already but always just kinda sucked it up

so?

What is the take home message of this? I mean I cant just put my country into war to stop feeling depressed or perpetuate some kind of societal change, of course your mental health is widely influenced by your surroundings

Just like breathing asbestos will give you cancer.

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your friends would probably love to have someone to talk to, rather than you banter with some idiots on a mongolian herpetology wiki.

that said, cardio does help with depression. it's just a matter of getting the will to do it. of course, being a good friend, you'd probably be happy to make your friends go for a run/walk/hike, right?

Basically I went through some life stuff which made me extremely anxious and stressed, and I developed really bad gastrointestinal issues as a result (my theory). Had every test under the sun done and no one knew why I felt like throwing up 90% of the time. Couldn't lift, or hang out with friends much. After a few months of this I started fantasizing of killing myself pretty much daily, confided in someone, and promised to see a therapist. She basically prescribed meditation which id tried ages ago to little effect. She was also dumb as hell and I was getting desperate so went to a psychiatrist at her recommendation. He prescribed me Celexa and it changed my life almost overnight. Roller coaster for 6 weeks but I'm probably 80% better these days. Dating again, lifting, climbing, etc. A surprising number of people I talk to are also on stuff and youd never know. Turns out a lot of people are fucked up.

Don't really consider myself a beta faggot but if it makes other people feel better about themselves that's fine

it's definitely gained some popularity due to some people thinking it adds depth to their character to pretend that the melancholies of adult life that everyone feels are akin to an actual mental illness, but depression is an actual thing. the main issue is that "depression" is such a nebulous term that most people equate depression to being sad or having bad stuff happen to them instead of just realizing that sometimes shit just sucks, and the fact that you aren't happy for 100% of your waking life like your anime, or TV shows, or all of your fake friends on facebook doesn't mean that there's something wrong with you.

also the fact that diagnoses are often extremely subjective and unscientific (amounting to nothing more than a "do you feel depressed?" survey like 90% of the time) makes it so pretty much anyone can get an official diagnosis to get their feelings legitimized whether they actually need medication or not, similar to ADD/ADHD. and of course big pharma isn't going to turn someone down if they're offering to throw money at them for placebos.

however, it is a measurable phenomenon in the brain. reward pathway systems in the brain are heavily reduced in patients with depression if actually observed in CT scans, but that doesn't tell us anything about what causes it or how to fix it, only what it is. anti-depressants are basically just a bandaid fix because no one actually knows what the fuck to do about it.

it's easy to dismiss if you've never experienced it. but if someone legitimately has it then chances are they'd do anything in their power to try to combat it. people who wallow in it are likely just looking for an excuse.

watch this for more info. very long video, but extremely informative from a great lecturer.
youtube.com/watch?v=NOAgplgTxfc

Veeky Forums:
>we lifters are mentally superior due to lifting discipline
Also Veeky Forums:
>rofl lifting does not improve mental state you cucks
???

>but if someone legitimately has it then chances are they'd do anything in their power to try to combat it.
actually they won't, since they are depressed

>Veeky Forums is one person

There are stages to it. For half a year I woke up every single day wanting to die, and went to sleep every single night thinking of suicide. Couldn't eat properly, either slept way too much or couldn't sleep at all (pulled 48hrs awake for no reason), if a bus happened to ran over me or a random person tried to stab me I felt like I wouldn't do anything to prevent it, complete lethargy and lack of will to live. That was undoubtly real.

Now, just before all that I was an active person, I went to the gym 4 times a week, I went to college, I worked as assistant in research, but I was extremely unhappy, probably about losing interest in academic carrer and plain loneliness. I started to become irritable and get into pointless heated arguments about stuff with my friends and family, I couldn't break PRs, was having poor sleep already, but still kept pushing my usual routine until my mind eventually broke. Point is even when I was still functional, I think I was already depressed but didn't know.

No it's not because of chemical imbalance. However, those who are given the meds are given an opportunity to escape the hole. If they don't want to change, they'll continue their depression on their own accords, and an outside observer will be none the wiser in diagnosing their depressed state. There are those who make themselves depressed and others who are really sick of it, but can't fucking tell their brain to stop just because of bad habits

That's what meds are for. Fighting chance

I think clinical depression is as rare as cancer if you cut out everything this current society try to force feed you.
But we like to make ourselves sick and then just treat the symptoms

Depression is not an illness, its a state of your body chemicals being out of wack, like dopamine deficiency (dopamine is what causes the feeling of happiness). I've been depressed for most of my life, makes me unable to value or enjoy things like how normies seem to.
I've never used it as an excuse or "an easy way out by blaming an illness", but I've definitely seen people who don't even seem to really have depression claim these things and use it as an excuse that way.

10/10 BAIT OP

meds alone won't help shit in the long term. People end up thinking they don't need them anymore and are sick of the side effect and stop taking them. Meds + psychotherapy on the other hand shows great long term effect for most people. Of course, there are always those poor fucks who don't respond on meds and/or therapy...

>My chronical depression is not that severe, so nobody's is

>Is depression a meme?

i used to think like that a few years ago until I finally got to experience it myself

I never took pills but wanted to ff myself for about 6 years. I am legit happier than any human should be and have been for about a year.

>quit porn
>quit booze
>quit smoking
>watch Jordan b Peterson and try his self authoring shit.

Unless you have legit brain damage you can learn to be a happy person anons. It is just like riding a bike. When you keep at it one day you will tip.

Mine is severe, I just said I've never used it as a reason for being unable to do things. It does prevent me though, I just don't mention it as the reason to anyone. But there are times where I skip school for a year and stop going to work because I was unable to get out of bed on almost every day and even put on the lights in my apartment.

Don't get that shit, is like being dead inside and tired all the time

lifting releases endorphins you fucking mong
it literally helps change brain chem

t. someone who was able to taper off of anti-depression meds with exercise

I don't know. I thought I had it for the longest time. It was pretty severe. But I was never diagnosed because I didn't want to take the medication. I ended up fixing it over years through a bunch of stuff over years. Still have some issues with that and "anxiety", but I don't know if I never really had it or if it's more in people's hands than they think.

I love you user. Keep on keeping on.

>actually, unironically being this ignorant of the world
Sort yourself out

>t. smol

>not an illness, its a state of your body chemicals being out of wack, like dopamine deficiency

A neurochemical deficiency causing mental illness

eating, god damn how can a nigga be so dense

If money were no obstacle could we just rely on CT scans for a concrete diagnosis of depression over flimsy surveys?

I'm depressed for many years of my life and i never left the gym, cause lifting weights help me feel a bit better

How did you fix it?

Think of it like learning to play Guitar. Over time it goes from hard work to just something you can do without even thinking and each day your practise it gets easier.

thats pretty much depression in a nutshell. Learn better strategies, be honest with yourself and all the damage you have caused yourself and the unhealthy habits your parents taught you.

The self authoring program is a great way to get started. You do not even have to pay for it just get some paper and

List your perfect realistic future in 5 years and how it would work out

Then list your idea of a realistic hell, and how your bad habits could manifest it.

How can you get out of bed every day knowing that nothing matters? One day, the whole world is going to end. The world only exists in your head, and life's pleasures are only menial chemicals in your brain that are released when your body does something good for you. The world is a lie, society is set up for you to work until you die. Men are treated like work horses while women sit on their asses and marry a guy for his money.

Kys underage normie fuck

Stupidest thing I've read all day.

You only think that way because you do not value yourself user, so you devalue everything to make yourself fit in to your mental framework. Let me hold your head underwater for 40 seconds or so and so how little you value oxygen.

Nihilism is cowardice 99% of the time, it's like an abused child going numb. It is much harder to accept that the world has inherent value and yet you see yourself as worthless.

I was like that too and The idea of going back to how I felt before is horrific. Once you start getting better the world goes from against you to helping you along.

>he thinks depression is contagious

Better use hand sanitizer!

That's a very real possibility

Because your brain rewards you for eating with dopamine? It's not fucking rocket science.

I had the same thing happen to me. I graduated highschool with no friends, got a part time job during the summer, realized I didn't care about anything and just ate all day. After work I'd go out to eat alone. Before work I'd have fast food, during lunch break I'd have fast food. I went from eating one meal a day during highschool and never really feeling hungry to eating over 3 times a day. Went from 160 6'1 to 280 before I knew it.

I knew I was getting fatter, I wasn't delusional, I just didn't care. It didn't matter to me. I had been alone for so long I didn't care about what others thought of me anymore.

Chronic major depression and bipolar disorder runs in my family and I have struggled with depression for a long time which culminated in a really bad period of about 2-3 years. I can tell you that therapy and multiple medications did nothing more than turn the despair into complete and total apathy which is in itself its own special brand of hell.

Anyways, a doctor introduced me to the idea that chronic depression may be a symptom of inflammation in the brain, one which isn’t totally understood as of now. I didn’t really think much of it but was put on a routine of taking a mix of natural antihistamine compounds such as bromelian, quercitin, NAC, and a few others. After about a year of taking this mix everyday the fog started to lift and I was able to start keeping up with other simple and positive life changes such as eating better, going outside, and getting better sleep. It’s now been about a year and a half and I’m starting to feel like a human being again and I’m remembering that feeling of enjoyment, which may not sound like much but anyone with real depression would know that this is a huge step.
Sorry for the blog post but I hope this helps someone out there.

Tbh I exercise for my mental state. Running Monday through Friday each morning and a full body 3x week strength program helps me with my depression. My girlfriend sees the difference like night and day. If I don't run I'm usually stuck in a rut the entire day.

>tfw when I stopped being depressed years ago but still do more or less the same shit I did when I was

>being an ssri cuck
>changing the wiring of your brain
No thanks

>tfw your memory is so damaged you can't remember if you actually were depressed for the last decade, you can't remember if things ever were different to begin with and you can't remember if everything you do is actually helping.

>gastrointestinal issues
Did you also get stomach aches/gas/diarrhea? I get that (and nauseous) when in particularly anxious situations. Mostly nausea and just feeling unwell, the stomach stuff is the next "level" up.