Be occupied for almost a thousand years

>Be occupied for almost a thousand years
>Have no Arab Haplogroups paternal or maternal

How did Spain do it?

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the same way Europe will do it (again) when the ar*boid menace becomes unmanageable

racial holy war and mass expulsions

R1b3 is Arab Haplogroup.

Why is it completely absent in Morocco then?

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> be occupied by 0.0000001% of Arabian elite
> why we aren't 100% Arabian???
The same reason why Africa isn't white after 50 years of colonialism, occupation doesn't impact genetic heritage that much.

Berbers aren't Arabs.

But but I was told every single military occupation prior to 1890 consisted of large armies who killed all your men and impregnated all your females.

They actually do have a substantial amount of North African ancestry.

>Finally, without making particular prior assumptions about source populations, we show that modern Spanish people have regionally varying fractions of ancestry from a group most similar to modern north Moroccans. The north African ancestry results from an admixture event, which we date to 860 - 1120 CE, corresponding to the early half of Muslim rule. Our results indicate that it is possible to discern clear genetic impacts of the Muslim conquest and population movements associated with the subsequent Reconquista.

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>Be occupied for almost a thousand years
>Have no Arab Haplogroups paternal or maternal
>How did Spain do it?
>North Africans
>Arab
Geez, i guess we shall never know.

which haplogroups are arab/middle eastern

E haplogroups

J AND K

>donor DNA
Useless for determining actual north african specific admixture.

Iberians have migrated to north africa since glacial maximus times, north africans are iberian mixed to begin with, thus making it harder to determine actual north african ancestry.

>implying haplogroups map onto modern conceptions of ethnicity
>implying haplogroups are even relevant outside stormfront

>what are genetics
>what is adaptation
do you want to know how i know youre an amerimutt

>implying genetics map onto modern ethnic categories
>implying adaption can take place in the few centuries modern countries have existed
Do you want to know how I know you are a moron?

out of all southern european, spanish are the closest to northern europeans. this is true even if you count northern italians as southern european.

>implying haplogroups between ethnicities arent diffirent
>implying giving birth to a child whoms father have diffirent haplogroups dont show
Literally amerimutt

They aren't.

To be honest, this was just a theory. Apparently Iberomaurusians were very different from European populations, closer to later Natufians. There is a recent paper about this. On the other hand Iberians migrated to North Africa in Neolithic.

biorxiv.org/content/early/2018/02/20/191569

>Among ancient populations, Early Neolithic Moroccans are distantly related to Levantine Natufian hunter-gatherers (~9,000 BCE) and Pre-Pottery Neolithic farmers (~6,500 BCE). Although an expansion in Early Neolithic times is also plausible, the high divergence observed in Early Neolithic Moroccans suggests a long-term isolation and an early arrival in North Africa for this population. This scenario is consistent with early Neolithic traditions in North Africa deriving from Epipaleolithic communities who adopted certain innovations from neighbouring populations. Late Neolithic (~3,000 BCE) Moroccans, in contrast, share an Iberian component, supporting theories of trans-Gibraltar gene flow. Finally, the southern Iberian Early Neolithic samples share the same genetic composition as the Cardial Mediterranean Neolithic culture that reached Iberia ~5,500 BCE. The cultural and genetic similarities of the Iberian Neolithic cultures with that of North African Neolithic sites further reinforce the model of an Iberian migration into the Maghreb.

Rapebabies are a meme

pretty much this. southern euros (italians greeks) have always been swarthy.

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sorry mario but even spaniards are whiter than you.

Autosomally they are South Europeans. Y-DNA is irrelevant. Basques are mostly R1b but they are still mostly farmer/WHG.

There was no Muslim genocide of Spain and no mass migration. It was mostly Berber armies conquering the land and converting large swathes of the population to Islam.

The "Moors" were Berber and Arab elites ruling over converted Spaniards. (And non-converts like Christians and Jews)

The only way population replacement has happened in history is by genocide and mass migration, and even here it's hard to wipe out a local population if their numbers are large enough.

That is not to say there was no Moorish genetic impact on the Spanish population whatsoever, but it is definitively overstated. In most of Spain there was no impact.

If anything, the impact was more cultural than genetic. The Arabs (re)introduced algebra and modern Arabic-Hindu numberals into Europe, introduced rice, saffron, cumin, watermelons, eggplants, artichokes, quinces, and apricots, and revived the eating of olives, oranges, peaches and other citrics in general.

They introduced the painted tiles (azulejos) that would become typical of Spanish colonial architecture, wider windowsills, arabesque motifs and other architectural concepts.

Over 4000 words of Spanish have an Arabic origin. These include many words that have passed into English like
algebra, algorithm, caravan, chiffon, carat, chess, checkbook, coffee and so on, so the impact was Europe-wide and not just limited to Spain either.

Finally, there's a theory that even the very concept of troubadours is of Arabic origin, as the roaming poets/singers were a typical feature of Al-Andalus and the Islamic world at the time. Many historians have noticed Arab influences and similarities in early troubadour music.

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>Autosomally they are South Europeans.
i never said any different. i said out of all southern europeans they are the ones closest to northern europeans.

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Changing your religion or being ruled by a different king will not change your genes.

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Natufians are NF, so Iberians and Berbers are still related.

Because of Germanic migrations into the Iberian peninsula, like the various Goths in northern Spain, replacement populations from central Europe into former Moorish-occupied southern Spain, and both ancient and recent French admixture in and around the Pyrenees.

Reconquista is more than just a meme you know.

A single intrusion can lead to a dominating male lineage without much aDNA left.

Muslims settlers in al-Andalus were indeed Berbers, but the map shows strong differences between Spain and the Berber stronghold of Morocco.

>implying adaption can't take place in centuries
Our environment changed drastically in those centuries. Ever hear of punctuated equilibrium?

Won’t stop people from parroting memes about how the Ancient Egyptians or Chinese have no genetic relation to their modern descendants whatsoever.

Arabs are like Turks, there were a small number of elites who fucked their way across vast empires, the ""Arabs""" of Andalusia were mostly Berbers, Spaniards and whatever Greco-Roman people were there.

doing what all europe is gonna do now expulsing and exterminating those subhumans

Spanish aren't related to Berbers either.

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