What was everyday life like in Nazi Germany at its peak?

I've read wages of destruction and it makes a pretty good case that the Nazi German economy was a bit of a meme and people didn't experience a "economic mirracle" like some claim. With this in mind was the average life of the German better under Nazi Germany as compared to Weimer? How about compared to the Second Reich? Was life better in Germany than in other great powers such as Britain and France?

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It was basically the closest we've ever been to a utopia. Basically no unemployment and equal opportunity for everyone. Smart governing and building of infrastructure. Must have been paradise.

>guaranteed replies

It was literally a fascist state, therefore, as a german citizen, your only concern is do a bad the nazi salute.

>fascist

>It was literally a fascist state

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>Nazism is characterized as a form of fascism that incorporates scientific racism and antisemitism (Wikipedia)

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>"My knowledge of history and politics is based on Wikipedia"

It wasn't much of an improvement over Weimar; better in some areas, worse in others. You can see in pic related that it was a recovery largely based on the expansion of producer goods for the military, while consumer demand was suppressed. Stalin's expansion was in the same vein, and the USSR experienced a similar decline in consumption as % of GDP during the same period. GDP per capita in 1939 was 31% higher than Weimar, yet real incomes never matched the late 1920s. Wages were stymied as part of the effort to keep consumption and inflation down; as a result, wages increased in Germany at a much slower rate than other countries. Per capita incomes in 1939 were much lower than Britain or the US, along with meat consumption. Tooze in Chapter 4 of his book, "Volksgemeinschaft on a Budget" shows that Germans spent nearly half their income on food, while Americans and Britons expended only 21.5% and 30%, respectively. Germany in 1939 was relatively unmotorized compared to these countries and others, I can post a table if anyone's interested. There's also a table out there showing how food consumption in Nazi Germany compared to Weimar levels. And finally, inequality increased during the period. According to Petzina, Abelshauser, and Faust, in 1936 the top 10% of earners had as large of an income share as they did in 1913, while the share of the lowest 50% was 18%, compared to 25% in 1928.
This paper details how rearmament affected health in Nazi Germany:
cesifo-group.de/DocDL/cesifo_wp800.pdf
If anything, the National Socialist system was best at making Germany a power to be reckoned with again, with reduction of (foreign) debt, increasing autarky, effectiveness of allocating resources to the military, and the replacement of the capitalist business cycle with something more stable, if not as conducive to the average consumer.

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>"Wikipedia is a valid source until I say it isn't"

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Here's your reply.

Per Richard Overy's "The Nazi Economic Recovery, 1933-1938", wages and consumptions of luxury goods dropped during Nazi rule. Consumption of rye bread increased 20% between 1928 and 1938, while consumption of meat was 18% lower, of fats 37% lower, and of wheat bread 44% lower (Overy, p. 34). Wages in 1938 were 7% lower than they were in 1938 despite all the unsustainable spending by the German government.
and wages as a percent of national income had decreased from 64% to 57% (Overy, p. 32). By 1939, 17 million people were on state welfare even as the official unemployment rate was at 0% - people were more dependent on the state than ever as the vast-majority of jobs were so lowpaying they had to seek governmental assistance to maintain their basic living standards.

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Wholesome.
No ficki ficki
No ooga booga
No boom boom

>wages and consumptions of luxury goods dropped during Nazi rule
>17 million people were on state welfare
>official unemployment rate was at 0%
You're going to have a hard time convincing someone that this is worse than getting raped, bombed and run over in the streets, shill.

Honestly Nazi Germany gets exaggerated so much as this mechanised, powerful state of tall of Aryans. People are still falling for Nazi propaganda.

The reality was people struggling to get by with limited food in a considerably less developed country compared to Britain, USA and France.

>You're going to have a hard time convincing someone that this is worse than getting raped, bombed and run over in the streets, shill.
And why is that the alternative?

>limited food
literally never happened in the reich, this is why people supported hitler, the wages were low yes but everyone got to eat unlike in weimar

Not to mention the shitty culture, degeneracy, nihilism, alienation and white guilt of current German society.

Because that's what happened in consequence of German losing the war and being denazified = jewified, retard.

>everyone got to eat unlike in weimar

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>You're going to have a hard time convincing someone that this is worse than getting raped, bombed and run over in the streets, shill.
Not sure what that has to do with anything. I mean that's exactly what the Germans did to everyone else.

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If it's not right, go and try to have a correction for it. Don't whine here.

That's their own fault.

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So you think the great great children should suffer because of the sins of their forefathers that lived almost a century ago years ago?

typhusoids

Children's height (a good indication of nutritional availability) increased greatly during the Weimar period, but stagnated in the Third Reich.
People got to eat in Nazi Germany, but perhaps it wasn't the best quality.

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In what way are they suffering from the sins of the ancestors? They got exactly the form of government they voted for. If you want to bitch about the current state of Germany, level it against the current Germans and those within the last few decades.

Who said that? Nobody.

what is hitlerjugend
what is national SOCIALISM

I've read enough first hand accounts to know it was true. The key word is "Limited" food, not no food or starvation, just never quite enough to really be full or not be hungry at some point in the day.

There's a million different routes Germany could have gone down after WW1. Go back to /b/ with your angry comments.

complete lies, no child under the nazis had starved unlike they did in weimar, so we can se a correlation between enabling food for everyone the same at the expense of quality or enabling food only for those who can afford it

Yeah, except it's not so simple. You don't have freedom of speech in Germany and the entire public education system is dominated by the left.

luxury food was of course limited, basic food was enough for everyone as the price was lowered and the farmers stimulated to work more

How do you define "luxury food"? Meat?

I don't get why people think the low unemployment was anything impressive. Pic related is where the unemployed went.

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I'll give you some meat pal

>no unemployment

I know this post is bait, but do stormfags ever realize commie states didn't have unemployment as well?
The fact that you have a job doesn't mean you're working.

>shitty culture
relative

>degeneracy, nihilism, alienation and white guilt

buzzwords

Sounds a lot like Nazi Germany

bread, vegetables, milk, eggs, fruit, pig and cow meat are basic food, other types of meat lamb, turkey, also fish in non coastal parts, caviar, fine alcohol is luxury food, basic food was enough for everyone since agriculture was fairly subsidized and the price essentially lowered below poverty line, luxury food was limited to higher classes since the price increased due to a limit on imports and socialist policies

>enabling food only for those who can afford it
>average heights skyrocket

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Actually no it doesn't retard.

literally not an argument

People listened to Beethoven and watched Wagner and Strauss's operas back then. Today they listen to shitty electronic music and watch scat porn.

You can't really dispute the shitty culture part. The Nazis had shit taste

You've only provided conjecture, no sources.

>People listened to Beethoven and watched Wagner and Strauss's operas back then

yea because they didn't have fucking iphones and dish washing boards to shit post on.

Looks like Weimar citizens had a decent amount of basic food then, at least compared to Nazi Germany.

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>dish washing boards

Kek. That's pretty funny.

Yeah, you think that because you're probably a degenerate.

People still do listen to classical music. Do you think the average citizen back in the day went to the opera? Also what's more degenerate than scorching and genociding the continent?

Name 1 (one) notable Nazi contribution to art

Arno Breker

>employed families
why are you shilling for weimar so hard, the nazis were bad, but they did give people work and bread which SPD failed

Leni Riefenstahl

riefenstahl

Richard Strauss

>less beer
Oh nononono

literally who

brainlet

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BEFORE May of 1942: civilian rations in Germany were:
• 10,600 grams of bread = 353.33 grams/day or 12.5 oz
• 2000 grams of general food stuffs / 66.66 grams per day or 2.3 oz.
• 900 grams of sugar = 1.06 oz. per day

Meals:

Breakfast (Frühstück) typically included some type of bread: sliced bread, toast, and/or bread rolls with jam, marmalade, honey, and/or butter. Butter was substituted with margarine during the war. Citrus products would have been unavailable - so marmalade would have disappeared from the retail markets.

Eggs were also a common breakfast food though fresh eggs would have been hard to come by. Grocers sold powdered egg mixes.

Coffee was more popular than tea.

Deli meats (if you could find any) were eaten with cheese on bread, either as sandwiches or open faced sandwiches.

Lunch: Mittagessen The biggest meal would have been lunch. In wartime Germany, stews would have been popular because limited meat could have been eked out with thick sauces and vegetables. A relatively simple meal (from a Culinary perspective) could have been made with Spaetzle noodles topped with a cream sauce. With cream being unavailable, a housewife could have used thickened condensed milk - perhaps with grated cheese.

Dinner: Abendessen or Abendbrot was a smaller meal. It typically included bread with meat, sausage, cheese, and/or a vegetable. Sandwiches or open faced sandwiches would have been common, though bread with margarine, sliced cheese, and sliced sausage would also have been eaten.

This is embarrassingly little. And Strauss is not a valid answer. But I guess that's what you get when the nation is busy goose-stepping for the Führer.

>answer unvalid
>because i say so stormnigger

Unemployment reached its lowest point in 1927 and is comparable to 1937
economics.ox.ac.uk/materials/papers/2292/56dimsdale.pdf

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>no unemployment
You'd go to a concentration camp for being unemployed.

>equal opportunity for everyone
Blatantly false, and also bait.

>Smart governing
A war economy destined to collapse if they don't conquer everyone around them is smart?

Why do people think Weimar was some sort of hopeless hell hole where everyone starved and rape gangs went around like Mad Max and shit. It really wasn't that bad as far as post war conditions go. They had even nearly recovered by the mid 1920s.

Fine then name artists that were contemporary to Nazi Germany (not before or after) that contributed to culture, from any country.

He was near 70 when Hitler got to power, and showed hardly any dedication to the Nazi cause, defying them rather.

Humphrey Bogart
George Olsen
Louis Armstrong
Billie Holiday
John Steinbeck
F. Scott Fitzgerald

that's just America btw

I said contributed to culture not shitty mass produced American "culture".

It's the banking and inflation crisis in the late 20s people are talking about

Well here we go. Go fling all things you consider degenerate on the book pyre.

You have a lot of quantity, but the quality just isn't there. Now eat another hamburger.

>Fitzgerald
>Armstrong
>shitty mass produced culture

wew lad I knew g*rms had shit taste but even a complete pleb like you can acknowledge the contributions these people made to culture

>Billie Holiday
>Louis Armstrong
>shitty

Fucking kill yourself. Their contribution to music and jazz was immense.

I still consider Armstrong's La Vie En Rose one of the greatest pieces of music released.

watch this before you talk shit nerd

youtube.com/watch?v=CWzrABouyeE

Your music taste is shit. Imagine giving elevator music even a second thought wew.

Not sure if serious.

>being contrarian for the sake of it

that shit isn't good for heart

You two should try the non-shitposting life one of these days. :)

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>name 1
>this is embarrassing little

See .

So?

>John Steinbeck
my sides

(you)

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>if people consume more that means it's better
materialists get out reeeee

If you don't know who Leni Riefenstahl is, you have no business throwing that around. Literally first-year film stuff.

This is a thread about Nazi Germany, not the GOAT Soviet Union.

>commie shit
>better than fascist fags
Oh nononono

Germans are fucking subhuman piece of smelly shit garbage anyway

I would love to open up concentraiton camps for Germans to give them a taste of their own medicine#

i would slice them up and let them bleed out while the flies are laying eggs in their exposed intestines

krauts are subhuman filth who needs to be purged

I hate krauts so fuckign much why the fuck do i have to be a fuckign subuman DOGSHIT KRAUT

KRAUTS ARE SUBHUMANS

pieces of garbage shit krauts should be round up and raped to death by horses, everyone of them, young, old, male, female krauts are just such fukcing smelly digsuting subhuman grabages they ruined Euopre so many times by now I HATE THEM SO
#

MUCH

FUCK KRAUTS SO FUCKING MUCH THEY RE SUCH SUBHUMAN GRABGAGE SHITE

Because they think Germany when Hitler came to power was exactly the same as it was during the hyperinflation

It was probably better for workers and the urban poor, as the unemployment went down from Weimars 30% to 2%. Idk if the middle to upper classes saw much of a shift, but Hitlers Mark as opposed to the worthless Weimark did make it more comfortable for people financially in general.

>make a joke about hitler
>get shot
Deutschland, Deutschland!

Is that why young people in Nazi Germany used to copy jazz culture in secret? Nazi culture was just too shitty
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>Inequality up
>Wages stagnant
>but full employment

These conditions indicate evil hand-wringing bankers. But wait, weren't the banks seized from Jews and put into German hands by this time? Hmmm.

You know /pol/s here because I genuinely mistook half these posts as Youtube comments.

Consumption of more basic foodstuffs is better, yes, unless you enjoy eating rye bread and potatoes every day and the effects that come with it.