Getting Fatty Guard in Shape

Hey /fit, I'm a second lieutenant in the National Guard, and while I'm personally in decent shape, I've got a lot of tub tubs who can't pass a pt test. What are some good resources for fitness and nutrition to use as well as ways to make sure they are doing workouts at home when we aren't drilling?

We are a field artillery unit, so while we are combat arms, most of our drills don't require much in terms of physical fitness so our Joes can slip through the cracks. We have guys whose guts literally flow over their belts, it's disgraceful honestly

unmotivated people dont do things that require motivation

join a real unit pussy

I'm gonna transfer units to a different state after my BOLC. I'm hoping they are somewhat better than this, the talk around the division is that despite being a decorated world war 2 guard division, in recent years we've been shitty. I'd like to help change that, but I'm just one 2nd Lt and don't stand much of a chance of making things better.

When does the new PT test hit you guys? Im sure the fear of the deadlift standards will put the fear of God in some.
Also, get with 1SG, you fucking pussy.
T literally posting from a tick's armpit Iraq

If you want them to lose weight tell them to stop eating or skip breakfast & lunch

That's a reg thing; he can't (read should not) do that. It's the Nasty Girls, he's only dubiously in charge of them for the duration of their field days or while deployed (not happening). Most of the fitness motivation comes from either a sense of pride in your work (which fades for almost everyone in after about 2 years before it either picks up again or they get out) or from the constant amour of competition that comes with being surrounded but guys your age all trying to outdo each other. NattyG's often have neither.

Read the fucking sticky

Sir, when I was in reserves our unit never trained PT, only tested it, unless you count marches. Years and years later, I am seeing the FM for such, and wondering why our LT didn't do a good chunk of this at least once per year, on top of training the basic 3 every month. There's a good bit of knowledge to be gleamed from the book that would have helped me throughout the rest of my life, stuff that I didn't learn until I found the same by looking through the interwebs. If it's the same for the guard, I would suggest picking out a few of these routines (ones that will assist with at least the PT test) and passing them down to your SGTs along with some of the information regarding power/strength/endurance, and have them come up with something the whole unit can do in a couple months here. In the meantime I would also have someone get together with all the squad leaders and discuss with them how beneficial it would be for them to organize voluntary meet ups with their squad to practice and get in shape during their off time.

>national guard
>has to resort to asking an online anime imageboard for advice since he cant get his own fucking troops in shape
what a fucking joke, this is why nobody takes you seriously

are you 68w??

flight medic?

Stop that, stop calling the butterbar "Sir". It does more damage than you know.

No, I'm a filthy leg. Light Ifantry. The worst kind of leg. Keeps my ass in great shape, though.

But yes, still the medic

Hey there "sir". Soldier fitness is ultimately the responsibility of your platoon sergeant. You just need to make sure your platoon sergeant knows that.

OP here, like I said I know I'm in decent shape and I know fitness, I guess my main issue is what's the best way to keep fat joes from porking out between drills as well as keep them in shape? We can't pt because most of our time is spent focusing on drill, and we just had our pt test, we had something like 7-10 fails and 5 of our guys literally walked the run part. Shit sucks, but I'll follow yalls advice to check the FMs

i leave for basic soon, signed as a 68w.

any tips and tricks?

We also can't kick anyone out for failing the pt test either, they keep fat guys in for due to retention. I just joined the unit right out of college, and I was kinda shocked about how out of shape most guys are

Enjoy Sill in the winter, I experienced that hell in January way back when. Reception is going the be the worst time of your life. Get a battle and hide right before lunch so you can be first in line when everyone comes back. Memorize the shit in your blue book, you'll be happy you did when you see your first board down the road. If you came in with ranks, don't wear it unless they make you until ASU time. Maximum effort, minimal talking. Get on Duty Squad. you will hate the other people. It's all a script and your drills know how your peers will react. Don't go to sick call. You will make it.

AIT: Study. Bravo will always be better than you. Team 1 will always be better than you. Be a part of that or prove me wrong. Your platoon SGT WILL be at the river walk. It's not that long. The Army will take everything you have so get everything you can out of the Army. Don't buy dumb shit. The Candlelight Cafe. The Mexican restaurant on the south side. The mom n' pop pizza place north of the fort, starts with an "F" can't remember. Uber; no taxi. Walk to the gate and Uber. The protein shakes at the gym are good: the GNC is not.

Can't you just force them to actually work out? You are their CO, after all.
Maybe you could make some sort of test to see just how out of shape they are, and assign special duties to those who can't pass it (read: force them to move their fat arse and put some effort into it).

We have pt tests, but unlike the national guard they can slack off and still get away with it because like I said before retention. They don't rank up if they don't pass though, we have a private first class whose been that rank for years and years and just doesn't give a fuck but can't be kicked out

*unlike active duty I meant to say

I have an idea, even if I'm grasping at straws here.
Since we are on Veeky Forums after all, I'm quite sure it will be at least easy for you.
Basically, during every test, you will run with them at the back. The good ones will make it normally. Whenever one of the slackers tries to slow down, however, you will grab whoever fell back, tell them to move it, and follow them closely. If they try to actually stop, shove them until they start moving again.
If someone tries to stop again, make them run.
Of course, I do not know how it works, but it could be a start.

thanks a lot dude.

thanks for putting your time in.

how does a 68w get assigned to airborne after AIT?

Good idea, albeit 1. You're trying to get the best time possible for yourself since its individual and 2. You can't touch or grab a person since it would disqualify them. Some of these guys also make it a lap then simply just give up and either walk off or just waddle the rest of the way. If we had time to do unit pt then we definitely could do what you said

Mock pt tests, see who the weak links are and fix them

See who fails and make their lazy ass exercise everyday or reprimand them. They're fat and lazy because they've gotten away with it for so long and nobody has done anything.

Wish we could, our drill days are jam packed already as is and we don't have the time to do even normal pt, much less organize a pt test more than once or twice a year. I think it's an organizational issue more than anything, I guess I made this thread because our company commander wants us to help come up with a solution to the issue

Oh you poor bastard. Recruiter told you you'd be able to "pick it up right after AIT" didn't he? Well, there is a way but you better make sure you are the studliest of the PT studs and get in good with whatever Platoon SGT handles the special assignments.

Everyone gets the "if you don't want to be here, leave" speech when you put out a time hack 90 minutes early every morning and you do cadence runs with a wagon wheel for every slowpoke. The motards will get ancy and peer pressure does the rest.

I wish we did the unit runs like I did back in ROTC (I know I know ROTC is lame and what not). I talked to the other officers when I got to the unit and asked about pt during drill and they just laughed

Can attest. This new pt test is scaring the shit out of the joes

Ait: STUDY STUDY STUDY DONT QUIT. Pt is at 4:30 am but don't quit bro it'll get better once you get to your unit. And dont forget to give the homeless man his nitro

Just don't burn out and don't become that PL who's too high-speed for his own good. Find that happy medium between offering incentives and bringing the rain, chaos and pain. Joe appreciates the effort.
T. Enlisted Swine

HA! Fuck you guy-who-can-be-a-PT-stud-because-he-weighs-98lbs-soaking-wet.

Are you going to do the Epeditionary combat medic course?

Yeah, it gets better...unless you're like me and your first duty station is Polk. Worked out though. Ft. Polk only has 2 exports: broke dicks and Rangers. X years later; haven't broken yet :^)

Yea, thankfully there's a bunch of new 2nd LTs here, so we are all taking a back seat and learning from the NCOs and officers, I'm definitely keen on learning everything I can learn before BOLC. Also the OPAT is easy as fuck except for the shuttle run

My next step is upper echelon, bub. This spin-up covered some of it, whiskey1 really covered the rest. I know prolonged field care is projected to be a thing again but I'm not entirely sure that's something I have to worry about in my lane. After this deployment I'm dropping my packet and getting that sweet sweet vascular surgeon money.

There's never a time to be thankful that there's a "bunch of new 2LT's" anywhere. Always remember: that Specialist has been promoted three more times than you and likely knows the principals of leading a patrol better than any ROTC-nazi and may have actually done it when it mattered, even in the NG. Not criticism, just remember to stay humble.

Also: BOLC is a joke, physically. You medical? Ft. Sam coming?

You fucking can't. If they lack the motivation to better themselves in their off time, how the hell do you expect them to accomplish it in the 2 days a month you own them for?

I've tried getting them to run with strava, taught them PPL, even involved a few with free crossfit classes; that they never attended.

Our commander actually paid a nutritionist to come in during drill and give a seminar.

The right thing to do is establish, through paperwork, a clear history of PT failure and rift them from the unit. But we all know this won't happen because G1 and higher refuse to kick anyone out for PT failure under the guise of "muh numbers."

t. SSG

Thanks for the advice man, I try and keep myself humble hahah and I'm field artillery, I've heard horror stories of our bolc and the 6 hour homework sessions each night and the stupidly hard tests you need to pass
Oh god that sounds terrible, is there really nothing we can do?

Actually, I got a specialist to pass his run by promising him beers. Outside of that one success not much else.