Time is ticking guys. I hope you can afford fucking around while girls are getting hitched with other guys...

Time is ticking guys. I hope you can afford fucking around while girls are getting hitched with other guys. Don't want to be that loser single at 27.

or you can go for younger girls

op BTFO

You can even marry girls in their 20s as mid 30 guy.

This, men have another option when they get older, just like young girls can go for older men if boys their age dont interest them.

OP is retarded. The whole game stars at 30 my dude. It's fucking insane up here.

It's fucking desperate up here
>Oh, you're 30?
>You have a career with a pension?
>You're in shape?
>You have a house?
>You don't have any children?

Every single mom rides your dick like their life depends on it on day 1. Women that choice a career instead of a family are still uppity though. Took a lawyer to lunch the other day and she said she never expected to go out lunch with somebody as poor as a deputy.

Leaving while lunch is being served is a nice feeling. Also, Pharmacist chicks are mentally damaged. Avoid.

Seriously dude. I'm 28, just got out of an 8 year relationship, completely bypassing the era of online dating. I installed tinder, but it sucks.

That's too close to home man. Can't I just keep lifting and fuck you girls looking for well off attractive men in their early 30s?

Jesus christ man that sounds terrible
Why even try at that point

>tfw married at 23
>Tfw wife wants me to succeed so she doesnt have to work and can be a housewife
>Tfw shes also rich as fuck and I am lower middle class
her dad bought us a condo and Im going to law school next year.
Enjoy your tinder slooting boys

>wife wants to be a literal leech and expects you to support her comfortable lifestyle
Living the dream, I see.

Not him but I do expect my wife to bear me strong children and have a good home ready for my return. Why would I want my wife to work in a fucked up professional job where she has to deal with fuckers on power trips.

She can spend her free time in artistic pursuits at home or something. Pursuit of career for its own sake is vainglorious. Build a family together.

>inb4 go back to /pol/

You can want a stable household without being a nazi

pic show say `female` not `male`

What about making enough money to pay for escorts as often as you desire?

Too insecure to hire one. I'm socially awkward. Most will leave right away when they realize what kind of personality I have.

>Every single mom rides your dick like their life depends on it on day 1.
isn't that the truth. They still dont' realize that no man wants to be a cuck, or do they and they're just taking in some attention and free dick.

>single at 33
Don't recommend it.

MATE ITS AN ESCORT YOU PAY THEM TO HANG OUT WITH YOU.

for fucks sake some escorts literally get shit over for $.

How horrible a person must you be to top that?

Or are you just making excuses for yourself?

Have you ever read some profiles of escortes?
>I wanna talk before we bang, so we get to know each other.
If she just wanted some cash, she would just want to bang as fast as possible.

>tfw 31 year old khv
w-when will it start for me?

>tfw poor and live with parents
>tfw ugly manlet

Whatever man. It's just about if the relationship seems obviously one-sided or not.
As you originally described it, the seemingly obvious subtext was only what was expected of you.
>Make lots of money so I can continue to enjoy the lifestyle that I am accustomed to, but am in no way expected to contribute to.

Yeah they want to make sure you're not Tyrone the Axe Murderer.

If you tell them you're socially awkward I very much doubt that that is a deal breaker.

Never thought about them wanting to make sure I'm not some murderer, this helps, user.

>tfw have a qt Asian who wants to marry me when I get back from the military
>We aren't even going out rn cause I didn't want to do long distance, but she ghosted the rest of the guys in her life while I'm meeting up with 4 different chicks today alone
Just be a dick man. Any girl I actually care about I cheat on. You got to show them that you have other options. Girls love older men too. I know multiple little 18 yr old skanks that fuck (almost) exclusively 30 year olds. Either way, it is kind of a meme, but if you read the game by Neil Strauss you will be able to pick up chicks a thousand times better. I would be a kissless virgin rn if it wasn't for that book.

Isn't that yet another book with just common sense written out?

Nope, it's not even that. Just PUA bullshit

>No arrow for fucking qt college sloots
You pic is broken

god bless chicks who haven't fallen for the strong independant woman meme. be careful about her looking to branch swing though user

it'll start when your rich unfortunately

why would you want to fucking a prostitute

thats sinful bro, got to Church and meet a nice girl

How the fuck do you even meet girls at the church? You go there, listen to the guy in everyones front and leave.

My arms are pretty long user. It helps on deadlifts but any press is a pain. I dont know when it starts, though.

rich as in wealthy

its over, stop trying, live for yourself

Escorts probably have seen some pretty fucked up shit

if you are an actual average guy that just can't get laid but you seem normal, then they will be "happy" to have you instead of a fucking obese 65 years old man that likes scat and bondage

Is this true or a meme? I thought men get more attractive relative to women as time goes on?

It's a meme made by a woman, projecting her insecurities on men

too late. I'm already 27

RIP boys

tinder sucks for guys but what's even worse is that every girl on there is a whore. no girl from tender is worth any sort of relationship

How do I find a girl what is worth a relationship master of the triple 7's?

You move to a traditional country (Russia, Belarus, Ukraine, Armenia, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Albania etc), go to a small city/town, find yourself a 15-18 y/o girl, marry her, stay in that city/town with her, pump her full of kids, and live happily ever after

They literally do not give a shit. Just ask them if they're "newbie friendly". If you're an actual virgin, don't mention that.

If you're decent looking (but awkward), show some initiative and grab a tit, grab the butt to show immediate interest. Most women love guys who take intiative. If you're a newbie though, I'd recommend just following leads. Don't apologize, don't apologize, don't apologize. She's not a man. You gave her money and she's going to try to get you off.

It's a fucking meme obviously you fucking dork. A man can climb from the dungeons of life at any age. Women can be good looking at older ages but they stop giving a shit once they bagged Beta Bucks.

I'm 28. I'm already fucked.

I haven't had a girl in years :(

CONT.

I'm going to say this again: Ask if she deals with newbies. She MIGHT (might) use some jargon ("hobbyists" = johns, "providers" = whores). Do not discuss sex acts over the phone. Text her if you must ask something re the act.

GFE = Smiles, hugs, sucks cock without condom, fucks with condom. That's what it really means minus the bullshit.

When you actually get fit, it's nice to hear a whore call you "muscular" and "lots of stamina" in a genuine way with the scanning eyes.

You're not fucked. No man is fucked*. Fucked only happens when you read the script and follow it. Ya get fit and ya study and crush shit and ya fuck whores long enough to realize that all women are whores given the right circumstances.

The "I'm already too old!" script is for idiots who don't believe in working out, who don't believe in saving and building resources (financially esp.!), and/or who are turds of life with no drive, no desire to mold the world around them. And really think about these turds.

You're kinda lucky because you might live long enough to fuck consumer grade sex dolls.

>27
>Have a 20 year old 8/10 girlfriend who just wants to spend time with me, fuck and chill.
>Nursing student who is putting herself through University.
>I always cover the bill at dinner and in a year of dating she's never not had cash to cover it even knowing she has next to no disposable income.
>Just wants to move in with me and love me. Constantly make excuses why she can't.
>Major introvert when I'm an outgoing extrovert (netflix and smoking weed in bed gets old after awhile.)
>Doesn't care about fancy shit when I'm a shallow materialistic asshole. She just wants my time.
>Thinks I'm sober after major drug problems. Do coke and drink with my ex every weekend.
>Fuck my 32 year old ex every Saturday night. Girlfriend thinks she's just a business client. Bitch is literally crazy.
>Even took my ex on vacation with me two months ago.
>Have to lie to current girlfriend that I work on Sundays when I'm sleeping at my ex's.

I'm just digging my own lonesome grave.

In fact, here's a script.*

# - whore's number

1. Text #
2. Ask "Hey, I saw your ad and I just have a few questions. Are you newbie friendly? Haven't done this before..."
3. If she replies in the affirmative, ask how much. Units are qk (15 minutes), hh (30 minutes), and h (hour obv). If it's your first time, do an hh.
4. Hash out a time. If you're going to her, ask about cross streets or nearby places where her "incall" is. If she's going to you, well that's easy enough but generally has an extra fee from $20-$50 (in my area).

5. Now here's the shitty part. The whore might be trying to deal with multiple requests and, being a stupid whore, might forget about you in trying to figure out how to stagger customers. That's the really shitty part between query and "confirmed" appointment. Some are definitely better than others in regards to this shit.

6. Before you leave, text her when you are leaving. Text her that you are going to her incall and it will take x minutes. Text her when you drop off at her place/in front of the motel. Just warning you, some whores pull double booking bullshit.

7. Knock. She'll let you in. PUT THE MONEY ON A SIDE OBJECT WITHOUT MENTIONING ANYTHING. Or a simple envelope would work but I'm too swag for that yolo :^)

8. Hash out details, get a feel for her attitude, etc. She'll take care of business if you explain you're a newbie.

9. Bust nut in condom. Or in her mouth. Depends. Some whores don't allow cumming in their mouth.

* - I'm assuming you've seen an ad and have seen her screenshots and have seen a "donation" list for services

Most of these girls will be single again at 34 I can wait.

What’s wrong with pharm chicks brah u brainlet?

Fix your shit man, god damn. You're a year older than me and if you can't get yourself together by this age you're fucked in a few years. Nursing student girl sounds like a catch, plus she can pin you later in life.

...

you're a loser baby

Dude, stop being a faggot, please.

I make a good living (just left the oil patch in Alberta to be the hands on guy at a consulting firm), educated at a good university, own an apartment in an expensive as fuck city, new truck, almost no debt.

I just can shut off that little degenerate in my head and settle down.

This graph is generally true, but only base your strategy around it if you're trying to maximize the amount of SMV you stick your dick into.

If you keep fit, build your wealth, and otherwise work on yourself, once you hit 30 getting laid becomes so easy it's not worth discussing.

That said though, the longer you stay single and banging sluts, the harder it will be for you to find that nice and educated girl with good values that you can see as being the mother of your children.

But if you're 30, rich, fit, and single it's best to just assume all women are whores because it will be true by then.

I used to date a pharmacist chick. Can confirm shes crazy

You sound like kind of a shitty dude

>getting married before 30
why tie yourself down while youre young and able?

Because otherwise you'll die alone

no? you realize there is no expiration date for finding your soulmate

I'm literally human garbage.

But ovaries do have an expiration date.

>Took a lawyer to lunch the other day and she said she never expected to go out lunch with somebody as poor as a deputy

Lawyers are fucking terrible people. I'd probably avoid female lawyers at all costs, no matter what age you are (exception being if you're already dating the girl when she goes into law school).

>source: I'm in law school with these cancerous people

just go MGTOW and live life free of parasitic women

>Oh, you're 30?
>You have a career with a pension?
>You're in shape?
>You have a house?
>You don't have any children?

But these are basically just prodding away at answering the bigger question:
>Are you not a loser?

Which I think is a fair one to ask.

MGTOW was originally for men who were tired of getting screwed by women, but then it became overrun with incels who just get rejected by women

That just sounds awful

>pension
>2017
are you 80 years old?

This woman hit on me on my way home from work on public transportation, and she is incredibly gorgeous and her personality is fantastic as well.

She's 22. I'm 27. I realize that's only a 5 year difference...but in your guys experience, is there something I should watch out in terms of dating a 22 year old?

I asked her out right then and there and she gave me her number. We went out yesterday and we are planning on date number 2 soon.
My last girlfriend was 26...

just live and learn lol

A man is at his most "attractive" when his career is as good as it gets, but while he still has some of his looks. This means that if a guy could be successful, rich and imposing at 20, that'd be his peak. Most guys will only be "done" with their career between 30-40, so that's why whoever made that graph made that the highest SMV for men. The important parts are: still young enough to be hot, but old enough to have a good career going. Getting respect from others also improves SMV, and it's a tad hard to get respect while being young.

Since no one gives a fuck about a woman's career, they get their highest SMV as soon as they reach adulthood and it only falls down as they get older and uglier.

pump and dump her, don't tempt her with your time, money, and resources, if you really like her, make her a fuckbuddy

Christ, if you take care of yourself that's false, women truly hit a wall around there.

Don't think she wants my money nor resources. She said she doesn't like other people paying for her when I took her out.

She lifts, goes to work, and hangs out with her family. She also works about 5 mins from where I work.

I'm really confused. I've never been hit on by a ridiculously attractive woman before. Ugly women sure, average sure, but never more.

Thats my plan. Move to based Belarus for a little while and meet the qtpa2t waifu I know exists.

Just see where it goes. 5 Years is fucking nothing when you're an adult, especially if you're both already in the workforce. It could be a bit harder if the other one was a student and had conflicting lifestyles.

keep your financial information (salary, net worth, expensive shit you may have) secret from her for a while, even if this takes off, hot pussy is not worth being taken to the cleaners by a potential gold-digger. make sure you filter that shit out

i'm 25 and i still look like i'm not a day over 15. My father was like this as well, he looked fucking great in his 30's when his beard finally started growing.

Dude's 55 now but looks way younger than his peers.

Not a bad choice

>public transportation
Sorry you can't afford a gf if you can't afford a car.

>Russia
>Ukraine
>Traditional
My time spent there had thots for pump n dumps lad. Don’t spread nonsense of places you’ve never been.

But I’m not ugly and undesirable

I'm 27 and live in walking distance to a college bar. Do people go to bars by themselves anymore?
I want to chat up sloots but being alone at a bar seems sad and desperate, plus dodging sloot friends

>t. socialet

w-why?

I know I guy that was the epitome of Veeky Forums. Roided, shit tattoos, topless waiter, fucked slot of roasties. Would talk about being alpha and how he was never gonna get married. He is now 33 married and stepfather to three beautiful children.

Still makes me laugh he fell for the alpha meme

>Leaving while lunch is being served is a nice feeling.
>getting pissy ata basic shit-test and losing out on hitting those easy macros
never going to make it.

Ian your gf a u of a nursing student? They're all qts and you don't deserve her. Pls throw yourself into a pit of cobras

>but am in no way expected to contribute to.

WRONG.

You see, I also used to think they had to contribute something to the relationship. But the issue was that I conceptualized that as the MALE version of contribution.

What do I mean?

Basically men and women contribute to a functional relationship differently. What I originally saw as pointless mattered deeply to them, so now I try to understand their perspective (even if I do think it's pointless).

The trap dudes fall in to is that what you want, oddly enough just as a women does, is POTENTIAL. Preferably proven potential (that is you have established a precedent for having done something similar in the past. e.g. getting a promotion before, so you can most likely get one again).

A women with a degree is generally more my mental equal (or close enough to, or even superior in her own area [one girl knew heaps about native americans, much more than me for example]), BUT SHE DOESN'T NEED TO USE IT. What it tells me is that the person I'm seeing isn't a complete idiot, so her POTENTIAL is greater than a thot with no degree.

A women's most basic potential is HER BODY. For a man, it's his ABILITY.

I'm not sure how clear I'm being but basically when a women is a decent home and baby maker, she is doing the stuff I COULD DO but we both realise my POTENTIAL is better used in my career. HER POTENTIAL even though she has a degree and could work a job if she chose (the equality/equity part), is better spent making the house nice, clean, cooking, and doing duties that by far and large appeal to their sense. Again, not because she HAS TO but because her POTENTIAL is better spent there. This is even more the case when kids are in the picture.

Does that make sense? English isn't my first language so sorry if it doesn't.

She'll never leave me. The smile she gives me from across the parking lot when I pick her up is the weirdest mix of her day suddenly turning amazing and wanting to fuck me. She had to work tonight and left me edibles in my kitchen after taking my dog for a run, she deserves way better but I'm not letting go.

I just need to get away from my ex. I'm an addict and I think she is just part of a package deal with the coke/alcohol.

>Snakes don't kill their own and accept me as family.

im 26 and it feels like the perfect age to impress 18-21 year old girls without trying, while also being just old enough to be piece of meat for freaky divorced mid 30s to early 40s sex starved "empowered" single women who don't have a full blown pedo fetish. whoever made this picture has a severe deficit of face, frame, height or bloat

Yes people go to the bar alone all the time, some people even go as a group and then split up. I've had people walk up to me and talk being in the second group of people I talked about.

>dating as a cop

i have yet to meet a girl who isnt annoying as fuck once they find out what you do

Isn't this the thread we had yesterday where all the guys in their 30s married to women in their 20s came and laughed at the OP?

Go for it man. People always miss opportunities but life isn’t supposed to be perfect. Just be happy you have a chance with a cute girl.

Tons of amazing women in their early to late 20’s are ready for a cool husband around 30. I’ve seen it happen with so many of the bitches I went to high school with.