Why is this board so butthurt about a dictator and his family getting executed?

farquit
farquit

Why is this board so butthurt about a dictator and his family getting executed?

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takes2long
takes2long

You'll never understand. Why bother explaining it?

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likme
likme

"""""""""dictator"""""""""""

Playboyize
Playboyize

A bullet, fired by somebody in the back, hummed near my head and grazed either the palm or finger (I do not remember) of somebody. When the firing stopped, it turned out that the daughters, Alexandra Feodrovna and, it seems, Demidova and Alexei too, were alive. I think they had fallen from fear or maybe intentionally, and so they were alive. Then we proceeded to finish the shooting. (Previously I had suggested shooting at the heart to avoid a lot of blood). Alexei remained sitting petrified. I killed him. They shot the daughters but did not kill them. Then Yermakov resorted to a bayonet, but that did not work either. Finally they killed them by shooting them in the head. Only in the forest did I finally discover the reason why it had been so hard to kill the daughters and Alexandra Feodrovna.

When we began to undress the bodies, we discovered something on the daughters and on Alexandra Feodrovna. I do not remember exactly what she had on, the same as on the daughters or simply things that had been sewed on. But the daughters had on bodices almost entirely of diamonds and [other] precious stones. Those were not only places for valuables but protective armor at the same time. That is why neither bullets nor bayonets got results. By the way, only they had guilt in their dying agony.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

what are you trying to say?

Emberburn
Emberburn

I think I do understand. Because you have information about Anne Frank and the Romanov family, you feel more emathy towards them than some random Russian serf whose family died of hunger or was killed by monarchist goons.

FastChef
FastChef

ywn protect all of the poor children from an agonizing fate

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BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

People on all sides commit atrocities but you were asking specifically about the Romanovs, people rightly are disgusted by how they were treated especially the children.

you feel more emathy towards them than some random Russian serf whose family died of hunger or was killed by monarchist goons.

The same thing happened and worse under the new Communist regime so really nothing changed for the Russian peasants. And the Royal family was brutally murdered for no reason.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

yeah he was actually only an absolute monarch who resisted any attempt to reduce his power or improve his country, who fired any good ministers and kept sycophants around

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

no reason

they had a secret police going around and murdering people, it made sense to kill them so they couldn't be used as puppets against the soviets by sympathisers or foreign powers

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

But by Russian Salic law the women couldn't inherit anyway

MPmaster
MPmaster

ok

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King_Martha
King_Martha

Out of naievety and foolishness, which no doubt brought ruin and suffering to Russia. But that doesn't warrent the barborous execution of the entire family by the lowest of the low of Russia's criminal underclass who came into power over them, nor does it justify the actions of the Communist regime that came after them.

You're right that they killed them to prevent the legitimate ethnic Russian counter revolution from suceeding out of ruthless strategy in the ensuing civil war. But as I said the idea of secret police going around murdering people didn't change, except you also had a basketcase state that killed far more than the Tsar could eve have.

Methnerd
Methnerd

Hurr
Constitution of 1906
Chapter Two (Articles 25-39) regulated the order of succession to the throne. The thrones of Poland and Finland were declared "inseparable" from that of Russia,[20] while precise rules on succession to the throne were spelled out. Females were eligible to succeed, though they were placed last in order behind all dynastically qualified male descendants of Romanov emperors
So unless Alexander, Nikolai, Vladimir, Kiril, Boris, Andrei, Dmitri, the other Nicholas, and Peter die they don't have a fucking claim you brainlet nonce

Snarelure
Snarelure

Women could inherit after Peter the Great changed the law in the early 1700’s, and so with the exception of the brief and autistic reign of Peter III, Russia was ruled by female empresses for almost 70 years straight, but Catherine the Great’s son Paul - who ruled briefly from 1796s to 1801 - reverted the law back to pre-Peter the Great days, because he believed - rightfully, as it turned out - that his mother was planning on disinheriting him. Paul wanted a far more rigid, clear-cut law of succession, not just “name whoever you want”.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

I'm not even talking about the soviets, but nicky appears to be pretty heartless or clueless.

In his diary there are bits that go like this

our brave troops put down a few hundred rebels, killed a few women and children that's very unfortunate, anyway the weather today was really good I beat prince lyvotz in tennis 6-3 I think I''m getting better

The Romonov dynesty weren't good for Russia, whether he was actively malicious or not Nicky was a fuckup and his son would probably have been worse. Ironically he would have been a great constitutional monarch like George V, he had all the tools for that

WebTool
WebTool

ok, so women couldn't inherit, unless somebody changes the law. Got it

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

His wife was more of a crazy retard and he cucked to her advise rather than his ministers. That was his main flaw, at least he expresses sentiment of regret toward the death of women and children.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

The problem is Nick's dad didn't prepare him at all for the responsibilities the autocracy had and at the same time Nicky was really fucking autistic about not giving the autocracy up because it would make his dad think he was a shit, it's the perfect storm

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

I agree on this, good post. He wasn't ready for it at all. IIRC there are some amusing anecdotes regarding him making his personal guards parade around and stuff that seem very larpy.

yeah but Nicky was also a bit of a douche who couldn't handle people giving him the truth, he personally got very upset by stolypin and witte

takes2long
takes2long

didn't Nicky change the rules so that if ALexei was unable to rule or died, Olga would be empress?

tfw you will never see Empress Olga

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Emberfire
Emberfire

Olga was the ugly sister

Firespawn
Firespawn

I think that the Romanovs are romanticized so much for two reasons. Firstly and more simply there's a lingering belief that autocratic monarchs are different from just normal dictators, we all praise kings and queens and people still buzz about royal families to this day. More complex, compared to the near century of bloodshed and true totalitarianism that followed, along with the active attempts at abolishing of pre-Soviet culture and religion, the shitty Romanov reign seems "better" for Russia. Nobody cares about the Romanovs themselves, but more for the pre-Soviet Russia that ceased to exist with their death.

WebTool
WebTool

One of the reasons why I stop visiting this board is for assholes like you. So stupid and retarded that it is hard to believe they exist.

Look damn asshole, it does not really matter if the child "was going to inherit the throne." That does not give you a magic letter to kill people and less a 13-year-old boy and his sisters.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

wasn't Anastasia considered the least pretty one? On the beauty scale it was Tatiana/Maria-Olga-Anastasia I believe

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Maria was like 12 dude, she hadn't passed the awkward phase yet so it's a bit unfair

viagrandad
viagrandad

*Anastasia, I'm fucking retarded

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Commie complaining about secret police
Voting for two faggots that don't represent me,this country,or my personal values Is better

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SniperWish
SniperWish

That's one of the prices you pay for being in such a high position of power. Just as it is unfair that they were born in that position with all the benefits, it comes with the responsibilities and sometimes danger/being a target. Far worst has happened to millions of people in war.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Pretty much. Imagine if he backed a liberal constitution, imagine if he didn't fucking order troops to fire on citizens presenting a petition during the Bloody Sunday and most of all, imagine if he didn't FUCKING go to war over SERBIA by mobilizing and refusing to disarm after Wilhelm demanded it.

He was horrendously incompetent and I don't understand this board's obsession with him and his family.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

He didn't order anything, he was too buy playing tennis, that's the biggest issue with his autocracy, it was so half arsed

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

tbqh I just wanna see his daughters lewd and nude

Supergrass
Supergrass

And pregnant

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Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

forced meme

Lunatick
Lunatick

He actually did receive reports, although you're right. A lot of things went wrong during his reign because of his inaction.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Literally because his daughters were hot... It's honestly kinda dumb.

happy_sad
happy_sad

implying you wouldn't

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Bidwell
Bidwell

Nicky and Willy memes

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

This,I'm sick of seeing it. I stayed for the romanovs
He prepped the Eastern front with ivanov. Technically they invaded German territory two days before the declaration of war. He learned his lesson from Japan,but I can't expect hisfags to actually read anything when stereotypes and assumptions are the standard here

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

probably because murdering dictators isn't justified when you put an even worse political system in place

cum2soon
cum2soon

He prepped the Eastern front with ivanov
Even that was half arsed, one of his worst ideas was getting entangled in military affairs

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Even that was half arsed, one of his worst ideas was getting entangled in military affairs
Not due to either of them. Samsonov is the one that fucked it up,but again,I understand you can't be expected to look up even basic bitch information.

Snarelure
Snarelure

This,I'm sick of seeing it. I stayed for the romanovs

I'd shitpost pregnant Maria and pregnant Anastasia too if someone would draw them.

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hairygrape
hairygrape

I'll bump some romanov pictures

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Gigastrength
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Methnerd
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Evilember
Evilember

Dictators are a republican thing. The word you were looking for is autocrat.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

I'll also bump some romanov pictures

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StonedTime
StonedTime

He didn't order fire on civilians you mong, he wasn't even in St. Petersburg at the time and only learned it happened later.

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Nojokur
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Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Kill yourself.

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Raving_Cute
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Spazyfool
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Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Yes, absolute monarchs have dictatorial powers.

Booteefool
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King_Martha
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farquit
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SomethingNew
SomethingNew

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Bidwell
Bidwell

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likme
likme

I'm on it.

hairygrape
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Carnalpleasure
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SniperGod
SniperGod

no thanks*

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SniperWish
SniperWish

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VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Thank you.

If you can do pregnant Rutka Laskier too, that would be nice.

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DeathDog
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SomethingNew
SomethingNew

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Playboyize
Playboyize

Don't make her a meme like the filthy jew of Anne Frank.
Just enjoy the pictures

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Techpill
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askme
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likme
likme

See

lostmypassword
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hairygrape
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kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

What if we wrote accompanying fanfiction where Anastasia and Maria are saved from certain death by proper Southern gentlemen like we do with Anne Frank?

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Poker_Star
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Evilember
Evilember

If you want, but I think it have been done already or at least something similar

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SniperGod
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RavySnake
RavySnake

when your plot armor isn't enough to save you.
the pottery

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Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

wahhh my moral compass is superior
Your a cuck if you cant remove your emotions out of a discussion like this. Im glad youve left the board desu

5mileys
5mileys

How can we left out our emotions with a bloody murder of innocent child ? Are you retarted ?

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Bidwell
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Playboyize
Playboyize

It is his fault the military admin was so shit. The army was modernizing true but tsarist institutions were shit tier though you gotta hand it to them for taking out ottomans and austrians and at the very least tying down germans in the east when germans fully expected to annihilate them

Techpill
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SniperWish
SniperWish

Because its an excuse. Children die have always died and its always tragic. the need to focus all of your effort on these particular children is a political statement more than anything else and you hide behind their innocence to make your own position unassailable. Its no different than democrats using school shooting to push for gun control, to come up with a modern example.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

4000 new pictures of Romanov family on 8 april

If you guys want to see them go on
romanovs100.com/
twitter.com/romanovs100

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TechHater
TechHater

Isn't family extermination very common when there is change of power?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

The Bolsheviks really took it to the extreme in this case, espeically when they let several guys who were ahead in the succession escape

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

The extreme? It seems pretty minor compared to what has happened to the poor throughout history.

happy_sad
happy_sad

Slavic viral marketers echomemeing about a boutique reactionary lifestyle

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

I leave this here

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Playboyize
Playboyize

The whole affair was a massive fuckup

Evilember
Evilember

Trivial.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrying_of_the_North

RumChicken
RumChicken

Who's the girl next to Tatiana?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Olga.
Imagine seeing your sister's skull being blown up by a drunk piece of shit, with whom you spend most of your 21 years of life and having her blood and brain all over your face just before you die.

Well that's what happened...

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

bump

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TechHater
TechHater

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FastChef
FastChef

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PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

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CodeBuns
CodeBuns

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New_Cliche
New_Cliche

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Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Use a different army. Confederates already been used a lot.

viagrandad
viagrandad

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Firespawn
Firespawn

DELET THIS IMMEDIATELY

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VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Imagine if he backed a liberal constitution
He did after 1905
imagine if he didn't fucking order troops to fire on citizens presenting a petition during the Bloody Sunday
He didn't, he wasn't even in St. Petersburg
and most of all, imagine if he didn't FUCKING go to war over SERBIA by mobilizing and refusing to disarm after Wilhelm demanded it.
fuck off germ

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CodeBuns
CodeBuns

implying the Brusilov Offensive (which was the Entente's greatest victory) didn't happen because Nicholas got tired of the Generals waffling about and gave his full backing to Brusilov.

Nojokur
Nojokur

Because of he daughters, and the “they were bad, but the commies were worse”. True, but the reason people rallied over the commies was because of his incompetence

girlDog
girlDog

Here for you

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viagrandad
viagrandad

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happy_sad
happy_sad

No one supported commies, when he was in power, retard

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

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5mileys
5mileys

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massdebater
massdebater

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idontknow
idontknow

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Snarelure
Snarelure

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Skullbone
Skullbone

Thank you based user

Supergrass
Supergrass

I don't really care about the adults being slaughtered, it's the children I pity.

Also it led to the USSR and by extension the radical right-wing shift in American politics so I hate it for that.

SniperWish
SniperWish

Also it led to the USSR
I would say the leading cause of gommunism is gommes

Snarelure
Snarelure

pls not Anastasia, she MUST remain pure

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

based romanov user, could you post all the pics you got of them in costumes?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Duma had no power

likme
likme

*tips fedora*

TreeEater
TreeEater

dictator
Nicholas abdicated and didn't have any intentions of rulling anymore because he consider himself as failed ruller. Only thing he wished now was tend to his beloved family.
family getting executed
You really need much explenation here?
Nicholas family was literally innocent. The physically ill son who wasn't fit to rule, the innocent in everything daugthers... all brutally killed because communists couldn't hould on their savage subhuman anti-humanity tendencies.
The shocking facts, is that bolsheviks didn't even stop at royal family, they kidnapped families of anti-revolutionary peasants, soldiers, officers and generals to hold as hostages and after all was done, did the same thing as to Romanov family.

So yeah, im pretty butthurt and consider this a tragedy, communist wouldn't care or understand because they despise humans for not being able to create their egalitarian utopian fetish.

Booteefool
Booteefool

Here you go user
imgur.com/a/2jC5H
Image limit has been reached so I put them in imgur

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

worth mentioning is how they threw aristorcrats/romanov relatives in mine shafts and then threw in a grenade after them, which didn't even kill all of them...

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

They threw like 2 or 3 grenades and after all that they were still singing christian songs in the shaft.
Bolsheviks threw wooden beam to kill them but they probably died of something else like thirst or something like that...

Bolsheviks are monsters and are burning in hell right now.

whereismyname
whereismyname

Because the people who replaced the Romanov Dynasty ultimately ended up being just as bad, or worse. The Tsar and Tsarina arguably had it coming, but the children didn't.

happy_sad
happy_sad

I'm an autistic dixieboo though.

inb4 just use the Whites/Allied Expeditionary Forces

Yeah except they failed to rescue her in real life.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

bump

Emberfire
Emberfire

Bolsheviks threw wooden beam to kill them but they probably died of something else like thirst or something like that...

They threw down brushwood into the shaft and lit it on fire. The remaining victims who didn't die from the grenades--which killed only 1 person--either suffocated or burned to death.

SniperWish
SniperWish

One of the victims, Grand Duchess Elizabeth Feodorovna of Russia, was the wife of Grand Duke Sergei Alexandrovich. He was assassinated by Ivan Kalyayev in 1905. She visited her husband's killer in prison and told him she forgave him, and asked him if he would repent and if so, she would beg the tsar for his life. Kalyayev knew the power of his execution would have and refused to reprent, saying, "My death will be more useful to my cause than Sergei Alexandrovich's death." He said he was pleased to be sentenced to death, and that he hoped that it would be carried out openly and publicly. Up until his execution she pleaded with him to repent so that she could save his life.

She gradually turned to a life of modesty. By 1909, she had made the decision to sell off all her possessions, including her jewels and wedding ring, to open up a convent. The convent included a chapel, hospital, pharmacy, and orphanage. Elisabeth, now an abbess, worked endlessly for the poor of Moscow.

Lenin celebrated her death, saying "virtue with the crown on it is a greater enemy to the world revolution than a hundred tyrant tsars."

Firespawn
Firespawn

Romanovs treated everyone elses family like shit.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Tsarist orphanages would steal children from peasants, often killing them.

takes2long
takes2long

go back to dead, Lenin

FastChef
FastChef

Dude there wasn't any good reason to kill them, not even a pragmatic one as pretenders to the throne existed anyway. The bolsheviks are barbarians and the horrors they created were just as terrible as the aristocracy they replaced.

Evilember
Evilember

Reactionaries

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Let's steal and pay to feed a useless kid and kill the parents that actually work the land
Seems counter productive