Get a good job

Veeky Forums is kinda poisonous in that sense. the ideal is to have casual sex with a ton of different women, but we also get disgusted when we learn that women we meet had a sex life before they met us.

Don't try to find girls on tinder or in clubs you fucking retard. Join a bouldering club and talk to chicks there or something. Maybe even use a proper dating site to find a high achieving person like yourself. Women who have their own ambitions tend to not be leeching thots.

>we also get disgusted when we learn that women we meet had a sex life before they met us
This doesn't really bug me
>the ideal is to have casual sex with a ton of different women
It's this that disgusts me. My ideal is the traditional family in which my wife, prior to meeting me, was not handing her body around with constant, casual hookups. I want sex to be special for both of us. But I understand that's asking too much nowadays.

>the ideal is to have casual sex with a ton of different women
These people are just more vocal. Plenty of men don't want this at all.
That being said, the internet is especially good at convincing you everyone of the opposite sex is horrible. It's an appealing perspective because so many people truly are bad, untrustworthy, selfish partners, but there is still hope. Just not on the internet.

It's easy to generalize an entire gender as bad, suddenly you're a really good person for being male. It's ridiculous when you think about it. Veeky Forums itself is a safe space hugbox where we pat ourselves on the back and say: "Hey, at least we're not slutty women amirite?"

Every girl is brainwashed by 21st century feminism it's fucking over. Best bet is to protect yourself as best you can and only fuck girls you are sure are at least 80% mentally stable.

>asset
>asset
>asset
>asset
Wow you have zero fucking personality or qualities

Well done.

>It's this that disgusts me. My ideal is the traditional family in which my wife, prior to meeting me, was not handing her body around with constant, casual hookups. I want sex to be special for both of us.
I agree, friend. I'm struggling with this exact issue. Finally found a gf that is awesome in many ways, but she's had multiple FWBs, casual hookups, fucked friends and so on. It wouldn't bother me much if she had normal relationships, but this degeneracy bothers me.

>Plenty of men don't want this at all
I'm with you. I don't want it either.

Personally, I wouldn't be able to trust or relate to her.

I trust her, that's not really the issue, but it bothers me a lot.

>Dude spends his whole life working towards being succesful
>Sets himself up to be able to provide for a family, so that himself, his wife and his kids can become providers for society, instead of leeching from the system
>Haha wow bro why don't you chill out and have a drink bro here haha have some weed like get a personality bro

Really though, how you gonna say he's not got a personality just because he's worked hard? In any case women are shit judges of personality and it is such a minute factor in their decision making you might as well not count it. A prime example of this is that a woman will laugh at every unfunny or trivial thing a guy says if she's attracted to him, the threshold for laughing or giggling at what he says decreases the more physically attractive she is.

How exactly does it make you feel?
How does it feel when she interacts with friends she's had sex with?

Does she still talk to Guys she had sex with? Because thats some weird shit My friend.

>How exactly does it make you feel?
Like I'm just guy nr #34. It's not very romantic.

>How does it feel when she interacts with friends she's had sex with?
She doesn't. We live in a different city. She doesn't have contact with any exes, and she deleted all her exes from facebook when we started dating (I didn't ask for this).

How did you find out about her past? Did she just tell you "oh by the way i fuck anyone and everyone"

>If I get everything that makes a person succesful I will only be approached by succesful people

no, idiot, when you have everything everybody wants, everybody wants to be your friend, fuckbuddy and girlfriend

Learn to just filter people out, christ

>tfw I did all that and still don't attract anyone

She's very open and honest. I have no reason to believe she hides anything from me, though I'm not completely sure why she shared all this with me either. I would have preferred if she kept her mouth shut, I think. But she's not a superslut. We're both in our 30s so a bit of history is not unexpected.

Also, I find that like with everything, exposure to a number of different partners makes it much more likely that she won't appreciate you even if you are above average or exceptional in that area.

You make eggs after morning sex
>Oh but number 15 used to fuck me for an hour straight on weekends and number 12 would make eggs Benedict after sex

Of course it's hyperbole but you get the idea, any of your good qualities are overshadowed by previous partners.

So you have to stand up, not to previous partners, but their aggregate. That's funny, I never thought someone would think like that.

Any fucking moron can get those things. Case and point you will too once your balls drop and you get through puberty.

>In any case women are shit judges of personality and it is such a minute factor in their decision making you might as well not count it.
This is why you cant find anyone. You're a narcissistic idiot who thinks everyone is below you, men and woman.

How do you tell if a girl is a slut? I wouldn't even know how to bring it up in conversation, and then I probably wouldn't believe what she told me.

Fuck this is accurate.

Not sure this fits in my situation. She's had a good amount of sex, but she hasn't had the best relationships. I definitely feel like I can provide a lot she has never had before in that department, but I'm not sure I even want to. If she gave herself away that freely to so many men, why should I invest so much in her? Feels like I'm getting a bad deal.

Yea buddy, bet all those morons working in IB and Management Consulting are fucking idiots. I bet they hate drivingtheir sports cars and beemers that anyone can get. But you, you're smart you don't have any of that, in fact you're a genius that should have been admitted in Mensa but they were too afraid of you and instead you work at some blue collar job as if you were the real version of Good Will Hunting.

>you actually worship a dead kike on a stick?
never gonna make it brah

Well, what is a "slut" to you? You should probably figure out exactly what you can and cannot accept. Personally I'd rather have someone with 20 casual sex partners and no history of cheating over someone with 2 long term relationships where she cheated in both of them. I'd also rather have someone with 20 partners over someone with 5 who got banged by 3 of them at the same time.

Sexual history is an easy topic to broach after you start sleeping together.
I've been able to have an honest conversation about it as we're about to have sex for the first time, but only if she's coming onto me, and not the other way around. Then you're the one requiring reassurance and if she's not a total shit, she'll feel obligated to talk a bit. Not "How many men have you had sex with?", but "I'm not sure about this... I get attached easily... I only have sex in relationships..." and then you can lead the conversation to a point where you can get a general idea of her past.

I'd rather be single than deal with any of those women.

then you'll probably be single forever. at least as you get older you'll find that sexual histories get more extensive. attractive women don't live in celibacy, and if you manage to find a 30 year old virgin she most likely has issues.

>mfw I'm not single
>mfw people bother dating women in their 30s

>can't control a womans mind
i dont feel sorry for beta problems

Hug box maybe but not a safe space. Lots of affirming opinions sure but it’s not like reddit or tumblr where you get banned for dissenting opinions.

Even if you don't have to deal with it now, there's a pretty good chance you'll be single again at some point.

Right, but clearly I'm not single forever, which is what you said. And women with 20 prior partners aren't getting anything from me.

I'm not interested in the details of your situation. The point is that people have sex. People who're older have had more sex. If you cannot accept this you're going to have a bad time dating as you get older.

>get a good job
>fired
>get a good motorbike
>crash it
>get a good house
>its filthy and I'm too depressed to clean it
>get a good body
>crippled from heavy lifting and crashes

My life. Mine

sad world f a. m

unironically every day ppl stray further away from God

Don't expect to guess the details of my situation without being corrected.
I won't have a bad time dating as I get older because I will just throw in the towel once I'm no longer attractive to girls in their early 20s. Dating in the 30s sounds like absolute hell to me.

that tradcon is a ruse

all women are thots

you must get a "malliable" thot, and through a rigiorus vetting process must teach them to be traditional.
though she will eventually get bored and hop on another person sdick.

Same. The world is too different than me, and every new generation of women is more sick than the ones befor them.

I just want a girl with ideally 0 bfs before me who is 19 - 23 and wants a traditional family. I can accept that that is not the way ppl live anymore, but surely if Im exception to the rule there should be a woman out there who is exception to the rule too?

I could deal with < 3 previous bfs. But absolutely couldnt deal with a girl who did fwb or hookups online. That shit ruins a woman psyche. THey werent made to be whored out. Woman doesnt gain anything evolutionary 4 being a whore. Only men do.

I hope I find her. Maybe in few decades when society turns around.

Absolutely this

>Im exception to the rule there should be a woman out there who is exception to the rule too?
there are. maybe not that easy to find, but there are all kinds of women out there. that said, I think Veeky Forums places a little too much importance on sexual history here. there are way more important things for a stable, long term relationship than what happened in the past.

roastie detected BEEP BEEP BEEP

gtfo whore and take ur persunarity with. u

no hymen no diamend

simple and ez to remember

maybe women dont gain anything evolutionary 4 fucking you

>It was in the past
Spare us. All things that defines someone as a person are in the past and they are the only way to predict how they will behave in the future. The past is important insofar as it predicts the future.

roastie shut the fuck up for fucks sake.

having sex is overrated intimacy is where its at.

You squandered ur 20s now trying to go around the simple fact that u brought your worth to lucid men close to negative 10000.

go read cosmo or something.

you're taking my statement way too far and basically turning it into a strawman where the past doesn't matter. I didn't say any such thing.

1. I'm a man
2. I don't condone degeneracy
3. There was literally nothing incorrect in my statements

go be mad somewhere else and work on your reading comprehension

Dont argue with these fools they are hopeless

the fact is they have had way less sex than the average person, and it hurts their self esteem when their partner has had more sex than them.

If you had an average amount of sex you wouldn't feel so shitty about people having healthy sex lives

you are far from man my friend.

and by friend I mean I wouldnt shit on you if you were hungry and I had to go really bad.

Yes, I know.

This happens to probably 80% of guys in their 20's, especially early 20's. Settling down with a girl isn't making it. Plenty of guys who don't meet their full potential get girls, including the guys who are constantly injecting themselves with heroin.

Luckily, our biological clock really doesn't depend on our age as much, which means we have a much larger dating window. Fretting about teenage love and things of the sort is pointless, and I've also seen teenage love turn into teenage pregnancy, suicide, and the likes. When we look back at that part of the past it often looks much better than it actually was.

>there are way more important things for a stable, long term relationship than what happened in the past.
My thought is that the past is the ONLY thing that matters, unless you want to waste massive amounts of time watching present behavior and learn from that instead. People always put their best foot forward at the start of a relationship and the past is the way to see past that.
I honestly don't see how I made a strawman.

>you are far from man
at the moment I'm the one arguing rationally while you're an emotional wreck.

let me present my 3 statements again:
1. People have sex
2. People who're older have had more sex
3. As you get older you either have to accept those two facts or you'll have a bad time dating

Now, instead of kicking and screaming like a little girl, why don't you explain what you believe is incorrect about one or more of these statements?

>mfw I turn down thots because I value sex and people assume I can't get laid

>car
>asset
You must be a fucking retard.

>I never got to have a normal sex life so I am mad at those who did :(

"making it" is subjective you fool. i've fucked dozens and dozens of stacy's, it was cool in the moment, but im dating the love of my life and the fuckin coolest person i've ever met. If that isn't making it, i personally don't know what is.

The problem is you don't have perfect knowledge about the past, and also people change over time. You would be a fool if you didn't place a lot of importance on the way your partner acts today. I agree that the past is important, but if you're going to break up with someone who has everything you look for in a partner because she had a period of casual sex 5 years ago then you're an idiot, IMO. Obviously it also matters what kind of past we're talking about.

>Implying god is something (((bible))) tells you

This is the correct attitude

If life deals you a hand where you must stay single and bang dumb sloots, then don't try to fight it and settle with one of them - it'll just ruin you.

Similarly, if life puts a good trad-con qt with good values into your life, then marry her and stay loyal.

don't try to use your whore logic tricks on us you godless piece of shit

lol

No they look at you like you're Catholic lol. It is a huge fucking red flag that you're either stupid or not mentally well adjusted.

aaaa the good ol' "im so centered" play hahahaha yeah no, score some iq points first

I guess same guy, but u tell me first, what is God for you? And do you think religion can keep stupid normies in check by giving them freedom of thought or by making rules and regulations?

What's a normal sex life?

Dating for the purpose of finding a relationship (had to add that qualifier since some people call long strings of ONS's dating) is just a string of disappointments no matter what your preferences are, so it's not that what you've said is incorrect, it's that dating is always shitty and demoralizing regardless of what particular standards a person has.
And yes, you're right that age correlates to number of sexual partners, so standards having to do with that in particular get harder to meet than others with age.

you need to go to Church (Catholic). and hang out in the youth group. You will find an attractive conservative loyal woman. Just make sure it's not a liberal parish.

the issue is not the amount of sex but the amount of partners

some girl who fucked the same boyfriend every day for 5 years straight is a lot better than some slut who fucked a new dude every week for even half a year

Why do libshits always push this meme? Don't you realize that these can be different groups of men?

>also people change over time

at their core, most people dont change at all after hitting ~20
they might change appearance and put up different facades, but the core person stays nearly the same

>hugbox

Lol no, at least there are no downvotes here or you don't get doxxed like on tumblr for disagreeing with some hambeast

I do realize that, and I'm one of the "exceptions" myself, but you cannot deny that what I said is the general consensus on Veeky Forums.

>the ideal is to have casual sex with a ton of different women

this cancerous attitude is fucking shit up big time

Bless you, o' window to the human soul. May your light never leave us.

exactly and her bonding brain circuits will still be functioning normally.

Girl with tons of partners and casual sex will fuck that part of brain. She might "get" better after 30 and think she can have family. But further down the line a cock will appear and her "good father and nice husband" will appear boring. Then she will remember the "good ol times" and whore once again. Ruining the family for a just another cock which really wasnt something special after all.

E A S Y
S O L U T I O N
G E N T S

Stop dating fucking white women. Feminism has turned them into perpetual children. Real talk, western society coddles mediocre white women at every turn. Take the Minority Pill and explore what the other races have to offer.

Wtf is there to "value" you fucking weirdo. It's fun.

I agree, but maybe we should clarify what we're talking about. To most people, the lifestyle you have in your early 20s is not necessarily the lifestyle you want as you get older. If we're talking about having casual sex in your 20s this does not mean you don't want something more serious as you get older. If you were a serial-cheater in your early 20s then yeah, that's a huge issue. Likewise if you were in porn or were known as the town sloot.

When I was 18, I was dealing with abuse from my family wanting me to get married to older men (Muslims) I met a white guy on here and I was so desperate that I did anything he asked even sent him nudes because I needed a way out I guess I was trying to use him but he ended up using me, I liked him though. He shared them on here after we stopped talking. I was a virgin when it happened and I still am but I feel so disgusting, so humiliated at least my family stopped bothering me after my mom found me trying kill myself and they never found out about it

I feel robbed, that was my privacy no one had seen me like that before and I haven’t been in a relationship since then, I tried dating but my feelings are just blank. I just freeze. I don’t belong to me, i am everyone else’s. A whore. I feel inferior to every girl I meet, I will never be like them I will always be the whore even if they don’t know it. I deal with the shame everyday. It will always haunt me. A porn star. Me. I wake up in the Middle of the night crying about it even though has been 5 years

Maybe I'm off base with that, but it just seems kinda the way it is to me. In my grandparents and parents generation I see example after example of marriages that remain relatively stable and happy because both people genuinely appreciate the other's uniqueness, and can appreciate all of their qualities fully. Those men weren't perfect, and neither were their wives, but they learned to appreciate the good in eachother.

Today it's obvious that something isn't working with skyrocketing divorce rates. I think in general, for both men and women in relationships, that they stop appreciating some of the good qualities in a parnter because they've been exposed to it many times already, or at the very least it makes it easier to take things for granted.

Let's say you are taking a trip to rome, this will be your 7th trip. Are you excited, yeah probably, but does your excitement compare at all to how excited when you were going there for the first time? Will the 7th trip even make any memories, will the sounds and smells and sights of the city stand out as much as they did the first time? Probably not, though the city is the same place that elicited awe and amazement on your first trip, but you've seen these great things so many times, that it all kind of falls into the background now. I think that the same things happens to people with many partners, they start to lose sight of traits that are otherwise above average or exceptional and don't even see them for what they are.

>be college fag
>find multiple girls who are into me
>none of them want to "tie themselves down yet"
>one does and it lasts for a month before she leaves
>she couldn't explain why but she was just scared of "missing opportunities"
>see this happen to all my friends too
>girls are more comfortable with going to parties to get fucked than dating someone they have strong feelings for
>graduate
>get decent job with degree
>girls throwing themselves at me
>all have bullshit jobs from their bullshit degrees
>none of them have any interesting hobbies or goals or anything that makes them unique as an individual
oh but WHY the HELL do men go their own way? WHAT A FUCKING MYSTERY

i dont understand

I once pulled my dick out during a dorm party and started pissing in a potted fern, so I know how you feel.

Fucking ferns.

normies are this slavish to sex
normies think its "just good ol fun"

man fuck normies in the ass fucking cunts ruin everything

>not believing sex is ultimate Dance between 2 souls
>not practicing tantric love making
>not finding your twin flame
>not shivering from pleasure from knowing your girl inside out and learning more about her body and soul every time when making love

I doubt normies ever make it in anything with how stupid they are. But they provide the cannon fodder in game of evolution for true Individuals to rise.

Freedom was a mistake

Yeah ok bud, you're taking things too seriously. You can't say shit like "ultimate dance between two souls" and expect me to think you'll EVER have sex so who are you to school me on it hahaha.

Muslims are subhuman retards