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I have a good amount of muscle mass, 6 feet 200 lbs
how long do you think it would take to get to 180?
I bet I could do it in 14 days of water fasting
Alexander James
water fast if you need the cut, OMAD might be better if you still want to train and still have strength gainz
Wyatt Myers
Has anyone found any good research articles on fasting aside from that little harvard blog from last week? I'm shriveling up from lack of gained knowledge here
Leo White
why is it when i go nil by mouth for 13 hours (muslim fast) i can withstand hunger and smoking craving? but when i drink water, i cant stop thinking about food?
Zachary Kelly
if we can get a russian user to go to a state library and check out the fasting archives, we would know
Juan Parker
library genesis has tonnes of russian scientific literature, what exactly do you need?
Andrew Cruz
WHY DRINKING WATER WHILE FASTING MAKES ME HUNGRY BUT NOT DRYFAST
Andrew Perez
>good research articles on fasting There is no good research on fasting because you can't properly control experiments of human patients
The only book or scientific paper from that author I could find is the one already in the google docs. The Cyrillic name of the author is "C.И. Филoнoв"
Brayden Reed
First night of water fast, can't sleep, as usual. Might as well pop some 2D steroids (watch cgdct anime).
Thomas Roberts
Anyone else have that day 3+ mental clarity?
Jeremiah Murphy
Who else bulking to prepare for their next fast?
Ryan Scott
Will vegetable broth fuck me up?
Hudson Perez
Yeah. You also gain monastic focus at that time, meaning you can suddenly focus on Bible (or any other book) really well, but attempting any strategy game, programming or math fails horribly. It's weird.
Joshua Fisher
best way to fall asleep is to relax best way to learn to relax is meditation
Jace Watson
Hey new to keto here Is it supposed to fuck up your emotions? I've been like a woman on her period for the past week Legit i've broken down and cried everyday and it was over what might happen 10 years from now. I also worry about things that dont matter for some reason.
I saw a blog of this fat girl on keto week 3 saying she had the same thing go on, like word for word how i felt but i want to know how common it is
Jack Wilson
What was your diet like before starting keto? I'm thinking you may have had a serious sugar addiction
Juan Stewart
yeah i did
At around the first i cut out a lot sugar but had not started keto
I would say 35g was the average
keep in mind i would break this with candy at least once a week
Alexander Moore
NOT sugar addicted (never enjoyed sweet foods); but keto has always made me super low-energy and depressed.
I'm happy with IF and 16/8, but dropping out the carbs out totally fucks my headspace.
Luke Allen
>dropping out the carbs Makes it really hard to perform in the gym... fuck.
Jonathan Morales
already on day 21, this is easy as fuck
Robert Lee
>he eats
Chase Perez
Why is Jimmy Moore so successful when he's still so fat?
Hudson Garcia
i want to fast for 20 days+ but around day 3 keto flu hits me hard. i have not yet gotten past it after 3 attempts. any tips for this? in that point of super low energy i cant imagine myself getting better.
Ethan Torres
do it on a month when u have nothing to do
Thomas Hill
Does eating pussy break your fast?
Jason Murphy
why not get fat adapted before the fast?
Grayson Williams
Allah wills it
Nathan Martinez
what about mudslime?
Camden Hughes
your kidneys need their fuel
Jeremiah Kelly
My mouth tastes like death, does that mean i'm in ketosis?
Gabriel Johnson
Means you're detoxing. Ketosis is a kind of sweet taste on the tongue.
Ethan Lewis
That's a reassuring idea for an alcohol that's getting his shit together desu.
Connor Morris
Who here makes bone broth? How does that not have protein in it?
Cameron Adams
Been doing IF OMAD since Monday.
I bought some Matcha (green tea powder) can I drink this during fast, or will it fuck my fast up?
One gram of it has 3 calories.
Blake Ortiz
You're fine m8, go for it Coffee is more god tier if you want more autophagy though
I hear it's good for breaking a fast with but drinking it regularly has like 30x times more impact on possible kidney stone formation than drinking 6 cups of black tea a day allegedly
Joseph Davis
Will (((they))) get Jimmy Moore before he shows all his fans the power of fasting?
Noah Jackson
Thanks brother. Been drinking straight black coffee, but it's getting boring. Good to know I at least have another option though.
Levi Turner
Hey everyone, first time on this board. I'm an intermediate faster and can go 24 hours without food provided that meal is within 3-4 hours of bedtime
I can hold this up for 3, 4 days then i inevitably feast. Today i ate a fuckton of rice, chicken and spring rolls. And a bunch of doughnuts.
What is the right pattern for feast/fast, because i know i can do it, just not executing it properly.
Jaxson Lopez
I don't recommend anybody has a nasty feast day unless they already have solid adherence to the diet plan and also get a ton of quality exercise. If you do HAVE to do it, Tim Ferris' slow carb style, just be careful and AVOID anything with 1)a lot of refined sugars or 2)fried in seed oils (donuts are the worst of both worlds)
Luke Morris
I'm a full-time student with a part-time job, friend. There isnt much room for exercise in my day (though if i had, i cant be bothered enough to do it). I only need to shed like 10 pounds my dude, belly is bothering me a bit. You telling me fasting alone cant do that?
It's usually just a feast meal tho, i still only eat once a day but just voraciously
Jaxon Hill
Does your part time job involve a lot of walking or cleaning? That can help you gain fitness brownie points Even then, It still stands, try to feast in the cleanest way possible with as little refined sugar and seed oils as you can get
also is there any way for you to move your one meal further away from when you go to sleep? The closer to one's sleep time one eats, the more insulin and glucose gets dumped into the bloodstream, it's really suboptimal
Blake Torres
Was told to come here. Gonna repost
Am i doing good so far for a fattie? >20, 5'8", male, 240.3Ibs, around 34% body fat this morning. I was 255.7 October 4th >periods of my life where I lifted, but got bored and lazy >haven't lifted in the past 3 years >CICO, eating 1600 calories a day >just eating whatever fits in it
I know its not major progress like you guys, 15 pounds is probably nothing, but at least I'm managing for a bit. I want to start lifting, but some people said that I need to wait until I have fully cut, and others have said i should lift as I cut to maintain muscle. Another group says that I'm doing it all wrong and will end up with loose skin, and of course, the other group has said that they are faggots and are lying.
I dont know who to believe and what to do, so i figured I'd ask the pros here and learn from you guys. What should I do?
I was thinking about fasting, but im afraid. I work in construction which means it's physically demanding. Will I pass out? Also, is weight loss the same as dropping body fat? I do not want lose skin if the weight drops as rapidly as people claim
Charles Diaz
It's fast food. Actually i get free food so snacking really is what gets me belly flab, bc it's usually the only meal i get in a day since I sleep asap when I get home.
Ah, i never knew that. I like eating before bed bc the only time hunger bothers me is when im in bed. When it happens i just chug a ton of water, but it doesnt help much. How does one sleep on an empty belly?
Oliver Edwards
I'm the same way user. The only time I'm really hungry is late in the evening, so that's when I eat.
It's not optimal but it's certainly better than nothing!
Joseph Roberts
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Daniel Nelson
I have been having three 36 hour fasts per week for two weeks, thats six for those playing along at home. I have seen a decrease in waiste size, lost some kg. But what realky getsvme is the increase in ball size, who else notices larger nuts when fasting?
Evan Martin
>tfw fasting for over a week and coworkers say they can't work because they haven't eaten in almost 6 whole hours
Nolan Rodriguez
I TRY TO RED PILL OLDER PEOPLE ON THE POWER OF FASTING
THEY ARE TOO FUCKING INDOCTRINATED BY THE GOD DAMN FOOD INDUSTRY
I FEEL LIKE WE ARE FIGHTING A FUCKING LOSING BATTLE HERE
Charles Howard
Hey guys. Care to give some advice? As of now, I'm obese/overweight/whatever (~95kg 1,80m), my body fat % must be like 35%, but this is just a guess.
I want to lose fat while NOT LOSING muscle, what kind of fasts are good for this, or, how would I need to go about it with fasting?
Also I want to have as little loose skin as possible, if any. Will fast give me loose skin?
Xavier Jones
Your energy levels in the beginning will depend on whether you're keto adapted or not. If not, you need to expirement with some OMAD on the weekends for about 2-3 weekends, then carry it into your normal work schedule. I know I felt like shit doing even 16:8 the first couple times but I got used to it real quick and the lack of hunger surprised me the first time I did straight OMAD. After a week of OMAD you'll probably be fully adjust and make good weight loss and strength gains provided you FUCKING EAT RIGHT and you'll even be surprised at your own energy levels once you get those good epinepherine and norepi levels up
godspeed
Jason Anderson
All fasting is good for preserving muscle, all fasting is good for reducing excess skin, read the damn OP
Ian Sanders
Whenever I try to explain fasting to people I just get that flouride stare
Elijah Allen
Surely your body fat is lower than that. I'm 190cm and 145kg and my bf is 35%
Mason Robinson
I'M NOT DOWNLOADING THAT SHIT AND I CAN'T FUCKING INTO RUSSIAN
Gavin King
Dude I have manboobs and flabs of fat all around my torso I can grab 'em. I'd say I'm pretty fat.
>190 jelly
Is 1,80m manlet?
Jordan Garcia
THE FUCKING PROBLEM IS I PROBABLY COME OFF LIKE A FUCKING VEGAN PUSHING A RETARDED AGENDA
PEOPLE DON'T LIKE TO HAVE SHIT SHOVED UP THERE ASSES.
I THINK THE BEST WAY IS TO PROBABLY TRY TO SELL FASTING ROUTINES TO PEOPLE OR SOMETHING
BEEN LIKE BRAIN STORMING WAYS TO GET MONEY SIMPLY BECAUSE HUMAN PHYSIOLOGY DICTATES THAT PEOPLE VALUE THINGS MORE THEY PAY FOR THEN SOMETHING THEY GET FOR FREE
HOW DO I SELL THIS SHIT ANY IDEAS ?
Christian Ward
Not really? I think that's the average here in Sweden. At least you don't have 50kg to lose, user.
David Diaz
I was way fatter before, like 105kg, have faith user.
>average in sweden >tfw spain >vikingmode as a possibility
ANYONE BUY THIS SHIT? I KNOW SOME RICH FAGGOT BROWSES THIS BITCH WITH MONEY TO BLOW ON WHATEVER. SOMEONE JUST TEST IT OUT FOR ME BECAUSE I AM A POVERTY FAG
John Green
>PHYSIOLOGY *PSYCHOLOGY
FUCKING SPELL CHECK
Justin Torres
Nah yeah, a few months of fasting and it'll be gone. Lost like 25kg a year ago easy as hell, but then I started smoking weed and binge eating again and gained it all back.
WHEN I WAS IN JAIL FOR TWO MONTHS I FUCKING MET A BUNCH OF METH ADDICTS THAT WOULD EAT LIKE A MEAL A MONTH
THAT SEEMS LIKE THE DRUG FOR FASTING ONLY PROBLEM IS ITS FUCKING METH
SO I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND IT OR ANY DRUGS
Oliver Wilson
Good recommendation, avocado user.
Connor Bell
DON'T DO METH IT MADE THOSE FUCKING PEOPLE CRAZY FROM SLEEP DEPRIVATION AND OTHER SHIT CONNECTED TO THE FUCKING CHEMICALS IN METH.
I AM JUST SAYING THOSE PEOPLE CAN GO MONTHS WITH OUT EATING AND THEY WERE STILL ALIVE. SO YEAH
IT WAS KIND OF LIKE PROOF TO ME IN REAL LIFE THAT YOU REALLY CAN LIVE LONG PERIODS OF TIME WITHOUT EATING.
Oliver Butler
You can drink all kinds of teas. I drink sencha, genmaicha, gyokuro, yunnan gold, oolong and even herbal infusions(though I avoid sweeter teas because they may have an insuline response).
There is more variety in teas than in sodas. Just avoid that bagged shit and get some lose leaves.
Mason Brown
>drinking phytoestrogens Good brah, you're gonna make it.
Leo Ross
First of all the body doesn't want to use muscles for fuel, that's just plain stupid.
A lack of exercise is what makes you lose muscle, regardless of how little or much you eat.
Levi James
>>CICO, eating 1600 calories a day >>just eating whatever fits in it >>CICO
CICO
STOP, THIS SHIT RIGHT FUCKING NOW THE INTERNAL USELESS MEME DIET
Colton Kelly
Hi, I'm kinda new to this board. I've started lifting a month ago. I've been feeling light headed and a bit sick whenever I skipped lunch before exercising. Is this normal? Would this still happen deep into a fast?
James Johnson
fasting is literally cico
Jack Phillips
Only if you're not used to fasting
either jump into keto or start toying with OMAD on the weekends to acclimate to it. You'll be doing fasted full strength and HIIT follow up workouts soon brah
Watch the op video and then go buy some duct tape to stop that mouth breathing
Jace Collins
>fasting is literally cico
ITS NOT, IT IS JUST FUCKING NOT REEEE
Jason Rivera
I'm bulking atm while doing a 20:4 IF. Will my gains go away if I fast 48h on the weekends?
Nathan Anderson
>day 1 eat until full >day 2 BMR caloric deficit; 0 calorie intake >day 3 eat until full >not CICO
Julian Morris
If you're still eating regularly your body lowers the CO part.
With fasting the opposite happens.
Jacob Evans
Not if you exercise.
Caleb Lopez
NIGGER, YOU CAN EAT A CALORIE SURPLUS AND STILL LOSE WEIGHT
WHAT MATTERS FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND AFTER WATCHING 500 HOURS OF YOUTUBE VIDEOS THIS SHOULD MAKE ME A PROFESSIONAL
IS THAT THE ENERGY UPTAKE OF THE CELL IS THE ONLY THING FUCKING RELEVANT TO WHAT YOUR BODY COMPOSITION IS GOING TO BE
KEEP TRACK OF YOUR CALORIES SURE IF YOU JUST WANT SOMETHING TO MEASURE LIKE TO MONITOR YOUR SHIT BECAUSE YOU ARE LIKE SOME PERFECTIONIST FUCKING JEW
BUT IF YOUR CELLS ARE IN A HIGH ENERGY UPTAKE STATE THEN YOU CAN DUMP A FUCK LOAD OF CALORIES IN THOSE LITTLE BITCHES AND THEY WILL USE THE FOOD BETTER
THIS IS ACHIEVED WITH FASTING BETTER THEN ALMOST ANY OTHER METHOD.
WHY BECAUSE YOUR FUCKING RETARDED FAT BODY WAS DESIGNED TO GO ON FOOD SHORTAGES
BECAUSE MOTHER NATURE FUCKING HATES YOU AND CONSTANTLY TRIES TO KILL YOU
Kevin Harris
Are tons of push-ups/pull-ups enough? I won't have access to a gym those days.
Leo Murphy
Shut up retard. God damn.
Noah Martin
AD HOMINEM
BEING RETARDED DOES NOT MAKE ME WRONG
Brayden Thompson
Everything but water will trigger you stomach production of acid and hormones. It's just dumb and makes it 10x harder.
Jacob Sanders
60h in, feeling like shit. At least the brain fog is gone.
William Howard
A single weekend fast shouldn't be much of a problem regardless.
Your body doesn't want to burn its muscles for food. That's just a stupid idea.
Muscle loss is controlled by exercise. If you stop exercising you'll lose muscles. Even if you eat regularly and a surplus.
Luke Martinez
Gotcha, I'll see how it goes. Thank you.
Ian Mitchell
What is with all the random new people from other boards/type like normies and the resurgence of avacado man in this thread
Kevin Lewis
>Muscle loss is controlled by exercise.
I DON'T THINK THIS IS ACCURATE BUDDY, I KNOW YOU FUCKING PEOPLE HATE MY SMUG ASS CAPS LOCKS
BUT WHAT ACTUALLY PRESERVES MUSCLE MASS IS KETONE PRODUCTION
IF EXERCISE DRIVES YOU INTO KETOSIS FASTER THEN YOU WILL MOST LIKELY PRESERVE MORE MUSCLE
ATKINS WAS FUCKING WITH SHIT CALLED A FAT FAST, THEN LONGO STOLE THE SHIT AND WENT VEGAN FAT FASTING AKA FUCKING AVOCADOS, COCONUT OIL, MCTS. IN A CALORICALLY RESTRICTED MANNER AT THE BEGGING OF A LONG FAST. BUT PEOPLE ARE TOO RETARDED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE WHOLE DAMN POINT OF ADDING A SLIGHT AMOUNT OF FAT INTO YOUR BODY WHILE GOING INTO A FAST WAS A QUICKER APPROACH TO TURN YOUR BODY OVER TO UTILIZING FAT FOR FUEL DRIVING YOU INTO KETOSIS IN ATKINS DAYS
THE QUICKER YOU GET INTO KETOSIS THE MORE MUSCLE SPEARING YOU GET CONSIDERING YOU HAVE ENOUGH FFA(FREE FATY ACIDS) FLOATING AROUND IN YOUR RETARDED SPASTIC BODY
THIS IS WHY I SAY EAT A FUCKING AVOCADO
Kayden Clark
how do I break a water fast?
Jayden Williams
1 month of daily 24 hour fasts, eating once in the morning.
I have no appetite anymore, its greatly reduced and i have to kind of put an effort to eat my single meal, which is around 1700 calories. It sometimes takes an hour to eat it. Otherwise i feel great and everything else is good.
Anybody else like this?
Jason Lewis
I'm conversational in Russian and have some Russian medical textbooks, can someone link me the shit they need translated?
Ryan Barnes
MAKE SURE TO CALL HIM COMMIE SCUM
Isaiah Mitchell
Some personality types are more susceptible than others, quit drinking caffeine.
Michael Bennett
I find lifts numbers are about the same but volume capacity goes to shit. I go from 5x5 across to shit like 5/4/4 or 5/4/3/3.
Joshua Ramirez
Fasting is probably the last hope to save my mom from metabolic syndrome, shes too much of a normie to even get past "wont I be hungry". Her only excuse for why nothing would work for her when I've lost 150lbs in front of her eyes is your a lot younger than me.