December 8th, 1941

Correct, however in Congress there was a rising ideal of protecting the democracies of Western Europe and thus a support for America to join the war as well. The argument presented was that unlike Germany, Britain and France didn't have territorial ambitions and would leave America alone. Additionally, it was better for America to have a democratic Europe than a totalitarian Europe as it would be in the interest of America. Additionally there were arguments that it would seem silly for America to let western Europe fall, then proceed to spend billions in protecting its own lands after the Western Democracies had fallen entirely. Finally, the American people were becoming worried after Germany's successful attacks in Poland and France, resulting in a diminishing belief of the "impregnable fortress" theory. Pearl Harbour probably would've resulted in USA going to war with Germany regardless

Reminder that the US public had been so isolationist that the US invaded multiple countries, took several colonies, some half the world away in parts such as the Philippines, and participated in the previous European war.
Also this US public knew full well that the US was supplying one side with arms while placing the other side on an effective embargo, sending troops to occupy neutral countries for one side, training that side's pilots, repairing that side's vessels, and patrolling half of an entire ocean based on a plan to split up Uboat patrol duties.

>fighting natives for profit
>war profiteering

Neither of those are risky war and you’re greatly under estimating the effect WWI had on the isolationist spirit of America.

And judging by public opinion you could sort of come to a conclusion there was a "better sooner than later" situation. What I've read is Americans initially didn't give a fuck because they thought it'd be filthy commies vs filthy fascists, both sides would wear each other down and Democracy would prevail. Of course that didn't seem like the case when France got BTFO with Poland, benelux and others. And the Spanish Civil War showed that whether America likes it or not, it does play a role in global politics and it can't hide in its shell anymore. Something Wilson prophesized decades ago.

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And it's fairly obvious the American people saw the inevitability of joining this war. What I'm interested though is why was there a dip in May, '39.

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Finally, the whole argument isolationists used wasn't so much as "War is bad" so much as "this war in Europe is devoid of moral or ideological content of concern to the United States", hence the "Let the Fascists and Commies duke it out", hell even the Isolationists didn't want the Axis to win in Europe.

Well, at least 6 months before Pearl Harbor, the US was already involved in a shooting war with the Nazis in the North Atlantic, so the hypothetical is tough to imagine. But if Hitler has disavowed Pearl Harbor and cut ties with Japan, and refuses to declare war on the US, it puts FDR's warmongering in peril, because the American people were certainly not going to support the invasion of fucking North Africa to bail out the bongs, that I can assure you. FDR was terrified of the potential backlash from that operation even as it was. And it was much the reason the US took the offensive in the Pacific before the N. Africa operation.

>And it was much the reason the US took the offensive in the Pacific before the N. Africa operation.
Are you perhaps retarded? The reason the US did Torch in Nov of 1942 was because you can't just execute an amphibious landing across an ocean with a couple months of prep.

The fuck are you sperging about, you moron? US would remain neutral, the Krautniggers were the one who declared war on America.

Stupid stormnigger.

He's baiting. Usually he can be identified by saying "bong" constantly.

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