with all the men that have been accused of all this horrific sexual misconduct, i've kinda been thinking about fit. you fit the profile. fit is the picture of toxic masculinity, and i'm sure at least some of you must be creepy weirdos at women.
confess your crimes.
No you fucking retard, if any of us harassed a woman we'd be fired/put on a list.
We're not powerful enough.
nothing that wasnt consensual
worst I ever had was with my ex. basically had sex and only after the fact she told me she didn't want have sex with me and she went crying to the bathroom.
that shit fucked with my head real good.
Absolutely. Regularly pressure girls into sex, back them into corners to separate them from their friends and keep them from getting away, talk down to them, get them addicted to drugs, make them give me money, smack them around, etc.
It's called "pimping."
how did that happen? i mean wtf
What he did was appropriate though.
Bitches didn't have to Iook, or even be there. They couId've Iooked away or Ieft, just Iike any of these HoIIywood bitches.
Bitches do shit Iike this aII the time "for the Iikes" so men can do it too, with no repercussion 99% of the time, much Iike he did.
>By Monday, he'II just be another guy
And it's fucking amazing.
All the time. Even when it's 100% consensual with my girlfriend on Valentine's day after a fancy gift and a romantic date after which she's literally whispering in my ear shit like "oh god, I'm so wet, take me home and pump me with your cum", I still pretend it's rape and that I'm overpowering her by holding her wrists down and choking her.
Guys and girls all agree, sex is much hotter when it's rape (unless you're an ugly fat nu-male)
>gf is depressed, suicidal, and doesn't speak up
>no safeword established at all
>been doing sex where one of us would say no->cuddle->reinitiate sex
>did this for two months straight
>do the same thing that night
>she actually meant it the first time but we cuddled and foreplayed and had sex
>only after the sex she told me that she really meant it on the first no
>been doing sex
I prefer to take them home, tell them my kink is to record the interaction like a voyeur, then rail them as hard as possible doing everything to them that I'd never do to someone I actually cared about, all the while asking them "Do they like it?", "Do you want it?", "Tell me you want it!", basically just getting them to say YES to everything, better still if they ask you and you "tease" them by asking "Are you suuure?" etc.
Every post-coital charge I've gotten from crazy women, or women who felt "used" a week later has been thrown out by the police because it was all clearly consensual every step of the way.
The only one I had that was an issue was one clever girl who claimed that as she was "Under the influence" (one toke of a spliff and a vodka cruiser) she wasn't "In the right state of mind" and so "Couldn't consent".
Then when I provided a blood test to show I still had alchohol and weed in my system, I made the point that I was drunker than her.
Long story short, it was two months of trying to demonstrate how being "Under the influence" is a bullshit excuse for basically everything.
A month ago I whipped my cock out when my wife's girl who is a friend was over for a visit.
I just grabbed your pussy with my mind
It depends how you define it.
I've gone to fetish parties where it is pretty much understood "hey someone might grab your ass, if you're not cool with that probs shouldn't come". At which parties, I've grabbed ass.
Some people would define that as sexual assault. Obviously I'd never do that to a coworker or outside those settings.
looking like an fbi honeypot to me
>implying anything in here is anything but a lie
When I was in high school I forcibly kissed a girl on the lips really quick and ran away. I was 16 at the time and now I’m 24. I regret it and want to apologize to the woman, but I don’t know how to contact her.
That’s the extent of it though.
how to find such fetish parties?
fetlife
craigslist
google "fetish club"
ain't complicated
>meet girl on some dating app
>go on a few dates, lots of flirting
>finally have sex
>real drunk
>only 75% hard with condom on
>gettin on but tired and still havent finished
>take condom off so she can blow me
>ask her if i can put it in without condom
>she says no
>reposition myself so my bare dick touches her pussy
>ask her again
>she says no
>put condom back on and finish
>few days later we hang out again
>she has a talk and tells me how i basically tried to rape her
>says she takes this really seriously
>i was no where near penetrating her but she starts making a huge deal about it
>tells me she lost count how many people shes slept with after the 20th guy years ago and she takes avoiding stds seriously
>we stop talking to eachother
>she was a feminist and honestly surprised she never accused me of anything
Hopefully not a FBI trap thread
Now all this whipping your dick out nonsense is actually frowned upon I can think of many times I've got my cock out at a party and I've done it to a girl once in my room and she wasn't happy about it and told her bf but he was a nerd and didn't do anything... I've done worse as well and reckon it's only a matter of time till women everywhere start telling the world
I guess it depends on where you are in the world to be honest. I'm in Australia where women aren't full blown 'liberal feminism' yet, in which case unprovoked physical contact or verbal innuendo/advances isn't really that big of a deal.
don't ask next time, just stick it in
I hookedup with and hatefucked a feminist studying to be a social worker.
Pretty sure that will come back to haunt me one day
hope u put a thumb in her butt and banged her head against the wall
>Pretty sure that will come back to haunt me one day
It will user.
But only when it benefits them.
>t. Dude who lost promotion then job because girl he fucked-&chucked three years ago started working at my company. I didn't recognise her, said hello, started being a cheeky cunt, then weeks later I'm "called in" and told that they've "been informed of previous digressions" and that they're "not in line with Company policy, and in the current climate it is unsuitable that the Company's brand be associated with said issues". They fired me on "Performance issues" on paper. As I'm packing my work gear, trying to hold back tears and not break down, she walks past with with a little skip and says "So, how does it feel? Bye ;D". I'm thinking wtf, and only when I get home and start drinking does it hit me who she was because she had the same mole on her collarbone. Now I have no way of claiming I worked for them for the past four years. Half a decade of effort and career gone because some tart held a grudge about being an ons. 20 fucking 17.
Break her legs
tell us about those kinky acts brah, DETAILS.
kissed a girl who might not have wanted it
but hey how else would you know? ask her? fuck that
This.
Murder her and make it look like an accident.
I get anxiety attacks almost everyday now from a false accusation I had four years ago. The cops told her to fuck off once they got both sides of the story since it wasn't anything illegal. But now I have a startup on the verge of blowing up and I don't want to be the next headline.
It really fucks with my head. I didn't do anything and now I've seen proof that even an accusation can take you down.
"toxic" masculinity is actually what seperates us from the virtue signalling nice guy. Firstly, they think if they yell loud enough it will silence that voice inside them that says they should fuck women, which for some reason they're scared of, and secondly they think if they act like a good boy they will get rewarded with sex.
Male feminists are predators, thats why we hate them.
I was working in this women's house last week. Had to stand up on chair for a moment and the woman, standing behind me, put her left hand on my hamstring and he right hand on my abs "to make sure I don't fall". Imagine how inappropriate that would be if a man did it to a woman
I need to acquire some toxic masculinity so I can take advantage of these situations. Pretty sure I could have been in there.
No accusation can take you down, user. You will not let a hostile takeover or failure of your startup happen. You made the startup happen. You built it with your own sweat and blood; you have no fault to bear the guilt of.
Get off of Veeky Forums, user... Not because it's bad, but because it sounds like you ought to be a little more aggressive and hard working with your startup in the coming months. If your business is on the verge of blowing up and you're on here, that's probably a bad decision.
user do you watch interviews of Elon? You should do that instead. He is a great role model for businessmen.
GODSPEED
I've groped women hundreds of times
if a man touches a woman inproperly he's a rapist
if a woman touches a man inproperly she's a whore
it's just the way it is.
Why would you fuck a mentally ill girl????
Lmao man are you guys in a fucking emo band
>Have girlfriend
>She doesnt work
>One day asks to live with me
>I let her
>Make her have dinner ready and afterwards give me a back massage and suck my dick every night I work
>Tell her those are the rules of living with me and not having a job since we dont have kids
>Get this going on for months
>One day have the talk
>"I dont think I love you like I used to user"
>Ask her if there was someone else
>"No, I've been faithful to you I just don't really have feelings for you anymore like I used to"
>Say if you didn't have feelings for me why did you massage my back and suck my cock every night
>"Those were the rules of your house and I had no where else to go so I followed them so I could stay"
Can't really say I was mad at her since she followed through with our agreement.
When I was 17 I was travelling in the backseat of a car with 4 other people 3 girls and another guy. real tight fit. i had my hand on one of the girls thigh and kind of rubbed it around. it was only a 15 minute ride. That and i've kind of rubbed up against some girls in concerts. It's really tame shit but I still feel very guilty about it. It's hard being a horny teenager without a gf.
Defends on what you mean by toxic masculinity.
But I would never have sex with or grope or even pay attention to any random woman. Instead, sex, intimacy, and attention must be earned, and the typical casual basic bitch just doesn't deserve it.
What I don't get is why even fit guys implicitly believe their sex is worth less than even the worst woman's, and that they're unironically willing to even pay money to give theirs away. How is it possible that fit attractive guys never figure out that the cock between their legs is an age old symbol of might, agency, ability, responsibility, and vital life itself. And if you're going to give it temporarily into the body of a woman, she had better damn well be a person of character and value to be worth the investment.
the replies here are making me feel ill. kinda regret making the thread.
fit truly is toxic masculinity incarnate.
I thought about this today. I’m almost 30 and can think back on about two incidents that may be considered harassment by today’s standards. One that may have seemed too forward, even though it resulted in consensual activity, and another where the girl simply said she wasn’t interested so I just stopped.
On the other hand, I’ve lost track of the amount of times I’ve been gropped in a bar or crowded area, had someone become explicitly, sexually forward with me, or tried to public ally humiliatiate me.
I swear everyone’s guilty by someone’s standards
>she stayed at your house for months rent free without a job
>faithful to you
user...
Too damn much, good thing it was stuff I did when I was only a horny preteen and not some creep ass adult, I feel guilty all the time.
Unironically (for all you pornshills) My final reconcile occurred shortly after realizing I was a massive porn addict and taking on Nofap, bar none single biggest factor in me getting Veeky Forums and turning my life around.
masculinity and "toxic masculinity" have nothing to do with it. they're predators, plain and simple.
I caught the feels for her pretty hard in the first month. it was only in the second month that her depression, suicidal shit, cutting started coming out. I was also a semi-fat DYEL at that point and wanted a relationship. terrible idea was a fucking disaster for the two years I dated her and gave me a ton of mental scars.
at least now I am fit and done with it but fuck me senpai I really did fall for her.
I'm pretty sure that in the US, the boss of the FBI or some other really important figure in the criminal system once stated that a person who is "under the influence" cannot give consent. That they enforced the law with this mindset.
And that's fucking stupid, because usually at hookups both parties are at least some level of drunk, so technically they are raping each other.
Nice job retard you asked for it
>Play stupid games win stupid prizes
I have no reason to doubt that. She was an autistic shut in who barely went outside and when she did she'd have panic attacks hence the no job thing.
Plus I know from my phone that she spent all day just playing PS4.
I used to sleep around a good deal within the "radical" punk community, with all sorts of badass chicks who identified as feminists and things we're pretty groovy. Polyamory, mutual respect, clear consent, I was down with all of it. One girl got really attached, then incredibly butthurt when I decided to stop kicking it with her. She was obsessive, and fucking too many girls in a social circle wasn't doing me any favors.
Three months later, I hear secondhand from some other punks that I'm accused of sexual assault. The alleged victim? Still have no idea. Her identity was kept anonymous for her "protection".
I has a reputation for being a bit of an asshole and a sleaze, but this accusation toppled all of that. One can be very straightforward about sexual desires without putting hands on someone. Maybe getting hit on like that can be uncomfortable. I'll give them that. But I'm not a rapist if I respect the autonomy of others.
It just takes one lie to destroy someone's name, and it's both sad and sickening to see how quickly your "friends" turn their backs on you because of their principles surrounding sexual assault. The culture condemns any questioning of the victim. It allows only one narrative, reasoning that the male/defense has historically always had the upper hand. My sexuality was now evidence against me. I'm was slut shamed as a guy.
I still think of myself as a feminist and radical, but I don't stomach people who parrot strong opinions written in zines anymore. I thought being part of a counter culture meant thinking for yourself. I was wrong.
Drinking and hooking up go hand in hand, especially as a young adult. The mental gymnastics around that shit is unreal.
It's one thing to take advantage of someone who's wasted, it's another thing entirely to have a few beers and take someone home.
Strolling through college campus unaccompanied as I often do. Not worried about being harassed or raped because I am a man. See group of young ladies struggling to set up a folding table. Two strong women have extended the legs and are trying to flip the table upright. I approach them uninvited and say hello. One flees, triggered. "let me help with that girls" I easily flip the table upright with... my masculine strength. Now upright, I can see the sign taped to the table top. FEMINIST BAKESALE. I give a low-pitched chuckle with my testosterone privileged vocal cords. "So you girls have been busy in the kitchen, what did you bake?" One strong woman stands with a box to rest on the table. Her eyes are welled with tears at the oppression she is suffering. "C-cupcakes" - "I love cupcakes, let me see what you have there" I reach my phallic hand over and open the virginal box this poor woman is holding. My male gaze objectifies the cupcakes. "Oh those look good. How much?" Another strong woman speaks up, images of Susan B Anthony flash in her head. "They're a dollar for men because of the corrupt patria--" I stop her short in a textbook case of verbal rape. "That sounds fine. Give me the whole box." I pull out a capitalist paper bill with the image of a Cis White Male Slaveowner on it. The strong woman before me whimpers in psychic pain as I hand the bill to her, she has been reduced to a slave -- nay -- a commodity. "Thank you" she says meekly, feeling violated. I give a sensual grunt as I bite into one of the sweet, moist cupcakes. "Mmmm... It was my privilege."
>The culture condemns any questioning of the victim
yeah I remember talking to a good friend of mine who I had known for three years about this shit. said if I was ever accused of rape she'd drop me without question. wouldn't even ask for my end of the story.
honestly was the most infuriating thing I have heard from someone in a while. dropping a friendship that took years to build over an accusation that could be false. without even trying to confirm it. I lost a lot of faith in her after that.
Anyone else feel bad for Louis?
I kinda see his "assaults" as him fucking around and being a funny creepy perv. I dont think he really intimidated them, held them down, made them stay, asked him to fuck themm etc. I read the two chicks he did it to at the same time were laughing when he did it....Imo he woulda crossed a line if he had put his hands or dick on them, which he didnt do
Is it really that big of a deal to whip out your dick in front of a girl? I understand people dont wanna see your dick but i've whipped out my dick in front of my friends because its funny.
>"Mmmm... It was my privilege."
fucking kek. Hadnt seen this pasta before
I raped once, I was horny and all the don't rape talk made me curious. Felt good in the moment, but I felt shitty afterwards. The victim was passed out so no mental damage. He was a nice guy, glad I didn't traumatize him.
Tasty stuff, mind if I save it?
It's true. We don't really know the context.
You can't rape a dude. You can't rape an unconscious person.
Seriously. The legal definition of rape is "forcible/coerced sexual penetration" and someone who's unconscious doesn't need force (unless you knocked them unconscious, of course). And butt/mouth sex is "sodomy" not "sex."
What you did was nonconsentual sodomy. A light misdemeanor at most.
>meet some ugly low 4 at a outdoor bbq
>stick my hand down her pants, make out with her, get her num etc
>meet her at her birthday party at a bar a few nights later
>only guy there
>shes all over me, legs I was swole at the time, like 230 at 5'10
>she wants to go back to her house (parents basement)
>take her there
>when we get there shes all over me again, I take my dick out and try to fuck her missionary outside on the deck but she resists
>find out her parents are upstairs so fucking her outside on the deck wouldnt be a good idea
>go down to teh basement
>shes creepily obsessed with the show Entourage
>she doesnt let me fuck her, resists
>drive home in the middle of the night, had enough of this shit
>it happens again the next time we meet up. Dump her for good.
What did I do wrong lads?
not knowing the context goes both ways. you don't know if the atmosphere was light hearted and joking, or if the girls in the situations felt obliged to say yes. we apply similar shit to signing contracts in that idea of signing under duress - basically agreeing to terms you don't actually agree to because a situation is putting pressure on you to agree.
what he did was fucking retarded. it's not weinstein bad, or spacey bad but it's still not good.
I'm in good shape and I'm probably decent looking, but I turned into a shut in and haven't been on a date in forever.
I feel really inadequate because I don't have a life outside schoolwork. That said women do find me funny but I don't have anything to talk about.
Idk lads, I'm too eaten up feeling like a loser to put myself out there. Should I be worried or nah?
>having sex with a passed out person isn't rape
Ok brainlet
fucking brainlets jesus
>cheap bait from visitor
Well, as an Alpha, I can't be accused of inappropriate sexual behavior. Women literally raise their skirts and press their soaked asses to my groin, begging me to fill them up.
Sure it looks great to be an alpha and be surrounded by horny bitches 24/7. They will nag, pester and scam betas for presents or alimony and then satisfy their emotional urges by flaunting their physical assets to me.
But I actually envy all those people who claim women are strong, independent and intelligent. They get to see that other side of them that I never get to see. All I ever get to see is that horny maniac trying to unzip my pants, and after a few years it gets boring.
Literally everyone that goes to those parties are fat, old, or both.
Settling with a 4 is what you did wrong.
This is why you should record work interactions. If your state is one party consent law with regard to recordings you don't need to ask permission to record covertly.
Unironically furry conventions.
But you gotta be gay.
Thems the rules.
it's not hard, all you have to do is think "would I appreciate the same behaviour if it was directed at me from gay men"? it's basic social awareness, how good looking you are, your charisma and how uptight the woman in question are are also factors you have to consider
That makes a lot of sense. I def dont think what he did was "right". Mostly in a professional environment or with people you dont know.
I just feel bad that hes gonna get lumped in with all these supercreeps and a lot of people are gonna shun him because we've become ultra liberal faggots.
I consider myself pretty fucking liberal, i think women def put up with a lot of bullshit and im glad all these fuckers are being exposed. But being a fucking horny retard is not on the same level as any of these dudes. Even if this happened to a friend of mine or family member i'd have a hard time considering it "assault"...Its pretty funny to me, and its in line with who he is as a comedian. The masturbating while on the phone with that one lady is just fucking hilarious to me.
>those tiptoes
Alright, I'll give my story.
I was dating a dumb liberal feminazi.
Pretty much only seeing her, because i didn't want to be alone. I recently got out of a serious relationship.
I finally get tired of her shit and break up.
I tell her we can be fwb. she agrees.
Keep having sex for a couple weeks, until one time she starts crying during. She asks how I can use her for sex when I know that she still loves me. I stopped right then and there. Thinking only of her other dumb cunt stories about being "practically raped"
>What he did was appropriate though.
It's one thing for you to invite a stranger to your hotel room and ask if you can jerk off in front of them.
It's another thing for you to invite someone you have power over at work to your hotel room and ask if you can jerk off in front of them.
These guys are sleezeballs not because of their actions, but because of the way their power over the other participants was coercion.
I've literally never even had an argument with a woman, let alone assault one
huh. can we call women out for slutwalking whoring themselves, being feminist?
oh wait that would be sexist.
but shaming men for their biological reason of existence is okay
you can't do it with co-workers or anyone where there is a very clear and established hierarchy of power. it's not just one guy jerking off in front of someone. a mail room attendant asking if he can jerk off in front of the ceo is different to the ceo asking if he can jerk off in front of the mail room attendant despite the fact it's one guy jerking off in front of someone else.
it's not physical touching like spacey or weinstein, and so he's shit out of luck to be lumped into that same category with them. however, i can't have sympathy for the guy. he consciously used and abused his power in the interactions to have them say yes, or at least encourage them to say yes.
>Is it really that big of a deal to whip out your dick in front of a girl?
It can be.
Louis CK had a lot of power, and this power means that any woman who is a comedian or in showbusiness he propositions has to ask herself if he's going to hold it against her.
That makes it a big deal. It's still small potatoes compared to Spacey or Weinstein, but it's going to really hurt his career.
There's a reason why you aren't supposed to dip your pen in in company ink. You ask a girl at the bar if she wants to go fuck, it's not a big deal unless you don't take no for an answer. You ask your secretary the same question, and she has to wonder if she's allowed to say no.
how do you even meet someone like that?
engage tippytoe mode
I thought about this in the shower
I might have low self-worth, but its completely egotistical to assume that everybody else will find that to be true. Even if I am proven to be an awkward dolt, between all these minority broads there's got to be someone who would put up with me.
Ultimately, it'd be better to face incompetence than to accept it.
Where did you meet her? I want to find an emotionally broken woman.
You ask a girl at the bar if she wants to go fuck, it's not a big deal unless you don't take no for an answer. You ask your secretary the same question, and she has to wonder if she's allowed to say no.
well fuck, you guys are completely right. pretty eloquent replies Veeky Forumsizens.
I still feel sorta bad for the guy because even though hes in a position of power...Its fucking comedy; I would imagine the whole environment is a lot more casual and people goofing off more.
The reason it fucks with me is because im a fan of his comedy, and it would suck hes worried about making crude jokes and his act goes to shit.
>spending any time with a feminist
I'm guessing you don't live in Sydney? this is the worst city for feminists in the world
i feel like there's a lot less humour in the act than you think there is. i doubt he was doing it for laughs as much as he was doing it for whatever thrill he got from doing it.
dudes throw their lives away over what gets them off. this isnt some isolated case, and i'd say he's just the newest name to the long list.
Everyones got a different sense of humor. Mine is pretty crude/dark, which is why im a fan of Louis
You cant be doing shit like that to people you dont know, and might not share your sense of humor; then theres the whole power dynamic you mentioned on top of it....Hes def doing it for the sexual thrill of it since he actually went along with it, but he's also doing it because he thinks its funny.
Actually this reminded me of something. A few months ago i was at a friends house. His sister(also a friend) was doing laundry i guess and at one point one her dog got her panties and ran in the living room with it. I thought it was funny and took them from her and put them on my head and ran around with them. Her brother was pretty furious and i apologized to her the next day but she thought it was funny and was cool with it.
Obviously a completely different situation but im just saying, inappropriate shit is funny.
Sure I got fired, but the video evidence saved me from 27 years maximum behind bars.
No pressure in my case, just passionate lust, followed by her feeling guilt b/c she had a bf.
Women are generally favored in the he said/she said type of situation. I was arrested solely on her word. But the store video saved me.
Maybe, but they like the feeling of being overpowered, without it crossing too far into the darkside. Just make sure there is consent before you ramp things up.
disgusting.
Lesson learned. If you make a move, make it boldly, and dont run away like a coward. Have the confidence to make the move, and deal with it smoothly as possible. No need to contact her, take it as a lesson and move on.
She was testing you. Maintain your frame.
Women love to test strong men, gets them off; and just annoys us.
No need for hate, just passion.
I feel your pain, I was falsely accused as well.
Refer to the link in my first response.
Depends on context, but obviously it didn't go over well. There are better moves to make than just whipping it out. Just like concealed carry, don't take out your gun unless you intend to use it.
Best not to shit where you eat. I'd say keep the flirting at work light, and definitely not "whip-out-my-dick" level. That's what I've learned anyways.
You're better off finding a decently put together women. Maybe you look for a broken woman because you; yourself are broken.
Be better user.
I like Louie's work, he's my #2 favorite comedian behind Carlin. That's why I kind of want to give him a pass.
Either way, what he did wasn't received well; and was probably a bad move.
I don't think he should be punished severely.
>I don't think he should be punished severely.
he's going to be sitting in prison with Bill Cosby who will fuck him in the ass with his BBC
Seconded, you faggots success stories bring me hope
Generally it's the low test high estrogen balding numales that do this kind of stuff. The kind of guys that aren't actually masculine and never lifted.
the power dynamic thing doesn't really work for 2005 louis imo. he was a big name but honestly not someone who could ruin your career. and what he did was creepy not assault-y. which is why even the nyt article makes sure never to use that word and instead uses misconduct.
desu i find it pretty disgusting that the women would out him like that knowing that he has two young daughters. i mean it's their life and they're allowed to share whatever but i would never go and publicly talk about a now mother of two who once have me head in an alleyway. yeah some men did creepy things and some women did slutty things. unless it crosses the line into assault, keep it to yourself.
XD ROFL LMAO
You think Cosby gonna make Louie take jello shots out of his ass?
Seriously though, nothing is going to come from it.
Typically, celebs are cautioned not to respond to allegations by their PR person.
I find it strangely commendable that he issues a response, typical Louie.
yeah, maybe
A girl took me back to her place after drinking one night, but she was adamant that she didn't want to have sex. I ignored her and kept going. I ripped her panties off and forced myself inside her.
After I came she started crying but later held onto me the entire night and was all over me the next morning.
Not sure if I'm a rapist or what.
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You raped her but she liked you.
Second time was consenting, first time was not. Pretty clear to me.
Bring it up with her if y'all are still talking
Should've dropped her then and there you absolute beta cuck
I think part of the problem is how he handled it from the very beginning; by that i mean years ago, not now. I guess he tried to make it so people didnt talk about it in a way?
If he woulda just played it out cool from the beginning and laughed it and then given them a sincere apology when he saw some of the women were offended, he'd woulda been better off.
But hindsights always 20/20 i guess
I dont think theres a problem with the fact they outed him. Just that people are gonna make it a bigger deal than it is.
>woman
Women only care about their social status. Your friendship is a means to that end. If you risk that by being accused of rape she'll drop you in an instant.
Not really rape.
When a woman invites a man into her home for drinks late at night; sex is underlying.
You have to understand the pressures women face.
They want sex too, but get judged more harshly for initiating it.
So they give token resistance as a form of plausible deniability.
That way the "blame" is not on her.
So instead of her being a slut, the blame is now on you; and you become a rapist.
In the end, you both get to enjoy sex; and she doesn't have to deal with guilt.
It's very important that you are well equipped to deal with that weight. Or else you may give in to the social pressure and believe yourself a rapist.
Even more important is to be able to distinguish between token resistance and actual, firm, flat-out denial.
When you get the hard: "NO!", that's when you should stop.