Hey Veeky Forums, I was wondering if anyone reading this has any tips for overcoming alcoholism?

I went to an AA meeting when i hit bottom. It was less scary than i thought and had good coffee. Half the people there are women, with a fair percent of grannies. It humanized the process for me.
Go to a meeting, get the book, and read the book. The steps make a lot of sense, but i don't think everybody needs to do them. The basic idea is there is something real fucked up that is making you drink, and you have to face that. There's probably an underlying inadequacy you have to deal with.

Ok, I will see how far I get. Anything is better than this, would be nice to actually run 1k let alone 5. Thanks.
Withdrawal is quite light at the moment thankfully, I feel the cold a lot more for a few hours then I feel a bit sad for a while.SO far, I don't think it will get much worse than that. My main worry is sinking back into old habits - a bottle of whisky should not be a "normal" (in my mind) amount to drink

>The basic idea is there is something real fucked up that is making you drink
That is just it, there is nothing. No consistent grills besides the occasional one night stand, and my parents are fine. I don't have anything to blame. I think at the core I know I have a problem, but I am having a hard time admitting it as no one knows. Is AA really spiritual? I have never been religious but I am not against the idea of that, I don't really give a shit about atheism or anything, I just don't want to die a drunk.

OP I had alcoholic hepatitis twice, yes twice meaning I was retarded enough to stop drinking and then start drinking again and got it a second time. Used to drink every day, before work, after work, in the street ect. Almost got fired a few times for it and had trouble with the police before.

You just have to realise you're fucking yourself over big time and if you think you don't have health problems (you probably do) youre in for a shock. I only realised what I was doing to myself when I had crippling pain at the top of my stomach and my upper abdomen swelled up.

Have a brainstorm as to why your life is so shit you feel you need so much alcohol to numb your mind. I "sorted myself out" and now I'm in the gym consistently, holding down my job and have 5k in the bank. I can even drink at weekends and then not drink for 2-3 weeks, ie drink like a normie not an alkie. Good luck.

I wouldn't do SS+GOMAD because you're not a lightweight to start with, but SS is the actual training program you should start out with, and SOME milk is good for you. Maybe drink a fifth of milk instead of a fifth of whiskey.

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Seriously, read up on it, it helped people quit crazy addictions. Alternatively, psychedelic mushrooms.

You're welcome

AA is spiritual, but you don't have to be. Its a group of people who have lost control of their drinking, and get together to share stories and support eachother.

You sound a little ashamed of yourself, which means you're a dutiful person. Go to AA once and see how you like it. I don't go that often because i'm not into the religion stuff either, but it's good to go for a check in to remind myself.

Go to AA. It saved my mom and if it could do that it can save you

I feel you bro. I'm in a similar position but what helps me with my alcoholism is to work out in the morning and that will take your mind off of everything for hours. At night when the boredom hits and you want to get wasted take magnesium and ashwaghanda and then just go out and take a walk for an hour if that's what it takes. It fucking sucks and it's hard to go to bed without the booze buzz, but just try to think about your next day workout andf your goals. It gets better though I still struggle.

Mate be real yourself if youre doing a bottle of whiskey and then some every single day youre an alcoholic, i sometimes think i have a drinking problem because i cant help but have a few (2 or 3) drinks most nights

find something else to pass the time and stop havin alcohol in your house. save drinking for weekends with the boys

Get some hobbies so you have something to do with your time. Like others said you're probably gonna suffer atleast some withdrawals and you're probably already damaging your liver a good bit too. Set up appointments with friends frequently. Plan to go out and do some sports every now and then. Start slow, if you immediately try to overexert yourself you will just feel like shit.
Do something like couch to 5k where you start with mostly walking. Or go swimming, or weightlifting. Anyting that you like most.

If you're the kinda person that will drink the whole bottle once you've started than don't buy any more bottles. If you have too much issues with withdrawals than slowly wean yourself off by stoppin the whisky and only drinking a couple of beers everyday for a few weeks slowly reducing the amount until you finally stop.

Fuck alcohol, drinking it is good for a while but than it slowly becomes less and less nice and you get more sides and your sleep becomes terrible.

>stop being an alcoholic and start doing illegal drugs

what could possibly go wrong for someone who is already a weak addictive faggot

great advice here OP

OP I feel and know your pain. My learnings from years of this shit:
-AA is for homos and doesn’t work. It is worth going to a couple of sessions to get done short term motivation but the big book & 12step program is all wank.
- Go see your doctor and tell him you need to quit no bullshit. You will need diazepam (Valium) for the first couple of weeks so you dont go mental and/or die.
- Ask for Acamprosate prescription. I have tried every fucking alcohol or addiction pill there is. Naltrexone & Acamprosate are the only effective ones, but Acamprosate is the closest thing you’ll find to a miracle drug.
- you MUST understand that you’re alcoholic mind will trick you into relapse. It is fucking inevitable bc it is so powerful. Just don’t give up and also beware bc when you relapse you will most likely go on a huge bender.
- do minimum 2 days no alcohol before starting Acamprosate.
- get used to insomnia first few weeks. Again, inevitable.
- and finally, the hardest part. Find motivation to quit the Liquid Jew. Don’t think muh health muh marriage muh kids bc drinking is self destruction. You already dont value these things enough or you wouldn’t drink. For me it is being a self determined master of my own circumstance. Alcohol is the Liquid Jew given out to the masses to paralyse them in apathy. Fuck them.

Ok here's what you got to do

STOP DRINKING YOU FUCKING FAGGOT

there you go. Stop having alcohol near you. Your mouth cannot catch alcohol from thin air. If you simple do not have alcohol around you you are literally unable to drink.

This is the best advice for junkies.

If you somehow cant manage to follow this and go to the store to buy it anyway: then you simply cannot overcome it on your own and you should be admitted to a clinic

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Fuck off cuntstain. Actual alcoholics get massive anxiety about not having enough alcohol on hand. Telling them to have an alcohol free house just creates anxiety and makes them constantly mindful of alcohol. Why post just to prove you’re a Cunt headed flogmonkey?

I almost fell in to the pit when I was younger, and started drinking as it was the only way to sleep thanks to shift work, and being angry at a lot of things. half my wages at the time were going on scotch and beer.
I have trouble remembering an entire year when I was 19, and I once literally drank myself blind while house sitting for my parents and emptying two bottles down my neck.
Along with the caffeine I was taking to wake me back up again, I ended up with severe heart palpitations at 23.
Around the same time, a friend fucked his liver and pissed blood, so stopped drinking, and another friendofafriend died of alcohol poisoning after butt-chugging a bottle of brandy.
After that, I decided to quit.
I still drink occasionally now, but only on special occasions, although I still have an issue of drinking anything put in my hand as if its water, but I try to make sure people I'm with know not to keep insisting I drink.

Work out your root cause, work on that, and then work on the feeling of dependency on alcohol. If it's boredom, take up art, music, or playing vidyagames. Read more, go to the gym, try to write a novel, take up line dancing, whatever.

And avoid AA unless you are in to religious stuff or want someone else to blame for your problem. You won't get anywhere with it without accepting god made you an alcoholic, and only he can save you.

Mate, take the national socialism pill. Honest, once you realize the great possibilities that come with mere will power, once you enbrace the struggle, then you truly ride the tiger.

Drink water instead

If you are a legit alcoholic go to the doctor tell them your problem, they will give you benzodiazepines to taper so you don't have dts and die. After that don't drink no matter how bad the itch until it fades. It won't be easy most fail I suggest using a bit of pot when you get the itch because the withdra l from that is like quitting caffeine.

AA can be good for inspiration, hearing others tell their stories made me realize my shit wasn't so bad (and i was doing NA after treatment for opiates). it's up to you how far you take it. ppl in these meetings can seem cultish with how they advocate 12 steps and i wasn't about that life. however everyone is pretty friendly and it might be worth it to have someone to talk to

It's not that you're not experiencing the withdrawal symptoms, you're just not staying off of the sauce long enough for them to start. I'm in the same boat you are. Get some books and video games and healthy food and just cocoon mode through the first week or two and focus on not letting your job or school performance go to shit.

After that, take a good long look at yourself, and cast off those parts of you that are weak and rely on drinking. Figure out your values and make a conscious effort to live by them every day. Set a couple of concrete goals to work towards and work on them every day. Choose a couple of skills to practice a little bit every day.

Alochol doesn't get rid of the boredom, it just makes you okay with it. Stop being okay with it.You got this.

AA is a meme. Their success rates are abysmal and overrated. Rely on yourself.

>Their success rates are abysmal and overrated

*Their success rates are abysmal and overreported

Drop a psychedelic or start smoking weed instead of drinking.

You are an ignorant fool LSD is proven to cure alcoholism. It is almost impossible to get addicted to LSD.

The first week is hell. Anxious, tight stomach, no appetite, agoraphobia, everything seems 10 decibels louder than usual, you'll be short tempered as well.
The second week is your brain tricking you that you're fine and wanting to drink. If you do give in, you'll go on a bender for weeks, because your brain experiences a kindling effect any time you stop then start again. Every relapse will be progressively worse than the last one in terms of irrational drinking. Most people end up in trouble (losing job, DUI, blackout fighting, sometimes suicide) due to stopping for a short time then starting again.
Week three things that you used to drink to avoid will start to bubble up. Insomnia is a bitch here as well, as those hidden emotions will race through your mind constantly. This is kind of the "adjustment period" where you actually have to figure out what the fuck to do with your time instead of drinking.
Week four to six is routine building, urges diminish but they never truly disappear. These are the times where it's important to remember "one day at a time". Just make it through this day without drinking. Worry about the next one tomorrow.

After that it gets easier, but it's always sporadic how easy or hard it is. Your brain will dangle fond (misremembered) memories of drinking in front of you from time to time. It's important to remember how much easier life is without drinking during those moments, because your brain will say "I was happier on the sauce!" That's your brain reinventing memories to feed its addiction. Silly organ doesn't know when to shut up.

If you're putting back a fifth a day, your organs will deteriorate rapidly at some point. What I mean is, it won't be like "oh I'm noticing health decline, better pull back" it'll be one day you wake up and your liver is swollen or one day you drink a bottle and vomit blood. Be careful with GABAnergics, they can kill you.

The days i drank half a bottle vodka coupled with 3-5 beers a day are long gone, but sometimes I catch myself falling into old habits.

Getting fit was the reason i stopped, i had a goal and alc was clearly in the way.
I still had to smoke ike a shitton of weed to make it work though...

This is actually solid advise, but needs some more explanation... LSD, and psychedelics in general, can help you to change your life for the better, because they can help to break out of a vicious circle (like alcoholism). But it's not an automatic and guaranteed outcome.

In my experience, you need to be aware of how these substances work, what they do and what they don't do. So first of all think about what you want to achieve by tripping and how you want to do it.

Then trip in a safe environment, maybe with an experienced sitter, and try to think/focus on the things you want to chance in your life, on yourself, etc...

Please stop talking about things you don't know anything about...

I drink way too much, 15 years now, at least half a bottle of whiskey a day. It ruins you slowly, as functional as you can be it eats at your spare time, makes you less effective in all other areas of your life and slowly eats away the joys you experience.

I am cutting down, supplement my diet with a glass of charcoal/water in the morning and a glass of apple cider vinegar in the evening, been taking some extra vitamin supplements and drinking more fluids throughout the day.

If you can identify the triggers and avoid situations where it is too easy too drink in excess, you should be ok. You need to try and find extra activities and hobbies to kill the stretches of time where you feel" bored (bored and justification to drink lie near each other"). Exercise is good, volunteering somewhere can also help and will give you perspective/a slightly better view of yourself.

I have fucked up many things in my life, we all do somehow but alcohol increases the destruction. You are not alone and I truly hope you find a way forward.

Read the threads on ck and realize how much they disgust you
That's how I got sober

1. Acknowledge that I cannot drink safely at any time, that bad shit happens to me every single time and it tears my life to shreds.
2. Come to believe I am a) worth living happily and sober b) that I have the power to do things differently—I can change maladaptive and destructive patterns of thought, behavior and action, and make wise choices to stay sober and happy.
3. Become willing to do things differently and make healthy choices in my thoughts, behaviors and actions through various methods, be it CBT, suggestion from wise friends, my sponsor, my father’s wisdom, a therapist, SMART meetings, meditation and the development of my own inner strength and wisdom.
4. Look at the patterns of thought and behavior that don’t serve me and keep me angry, depressed, upset and lead me to drink. Where resentments are concerned, acknowledge my part, be it ever so small, so I can empower myself to change these patterns and have compassion for others. Recognize that interacting with unhealthy people is foolish and causes me harm.
5. Reflect on these patterns, discuss them with someone if necessary and fully acknowledge that these things harm me and cannot continue.
6. Become willing to surrender these negative patterns of thought, behavior and actions, including drinking or other addictive behavior, unhealthy romantic entanglements with douchebags, unhealthy job settings and unhealthy people.
7. Take the necessary action to change these maladaptive patterns, to end unhealthy relationships and continue to take action that leads me to sobriety, sanity and wellness.
8. Make a list of persons I have harmed and become willing to make amends to them.
9. Make direct amends to such people, whenever possible, except when to do so would injure them, myself or others.

Continued

10. Continue to watch for maladaptive behavior, without judgement, and take action to change it. Be kind and apologize when I’m in the wrong. Drive like a Taoist.
11. Involve myself in positive activities, such as dance, travel, learning in classes, exercise, meditation, going to museums and readings, writing and cooking. Hang out with positive and spirit-lifting people to participate in life and keep moving forward, away from my addictive past.
12. Develop an ethical compass. Treat others with respect and compassion, live with wisdom and generosity. Give back to the community when possible and to others in recovery while employing healthy boundaries. Live an example of a positive, openhearted, honest, ethical life and put the shopping cart back where it belongs in the grocery store parking lot.

There is serious scientific evidence that psychedelics can cure addiction.
Shit on me for being a hippie all you want. The research is out there.

Al-user and therapy user. Good luck.

You have a mental disease, and physical stuff will help but only so much. You have to understand why you drink and admit what triggers you to drink and stay away from that.

This. And just stop buying booze retard, it's not like this shit is appearing in your house.

FACTS
OP is a spineless piece of shit. Right now he's filling the void with alcohol and you're just replacing one vice with another
Why is no one telling him to just accept boredom for a while

You are a brainlet.
There is not one single case in history of anybody being addicted to psychedelics.
They're quite daunting to take and don't release dopamine.

You didn't fucking explain anything, faggot. You sound like someone who has fried their brain. Only my depressed hippy friends talk about LSD and shrooms like they will change your life. They don't.

>'fried their brain'
Want to know how I know you're just making shit up?

Your intake is pretty high, so stopping coldturkey might cause withdrawal symptoms.

I would try to reduce how much you drink each day for starters. Are you able to, say, drink only 70% as much? And then work on 50%.

This.
Ethanol is the only drug that even doctors say you should never cold turkey quit.