Why cant orty's and prosty's into AESTHETICS as much as the mighty Catholics?

Emberburn
Emberburn

Why cant orty's and prosty's into AESTHETICS as much as the mighty Catholics?

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abc.net.au/news/2017-09-09/new-zealand-to-rebuild-quake-damaged-christchurch-cathedral/8888732

RavySnake
RavySnake

Because they shun aesthetics as decadence

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Jokes on them. Also bullshit, the protestants used to be the biggest money whores on the planet.

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JunkTop
JunkTop

Orthobros
Icons
candles
no aesthetics
Please

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BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

0/10 not enough stain glass

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Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

also St Basil's is technically secular now.
checkmate orthodox.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

(You)

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Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Oh yeah? Well my cathedral is bigger then your cathedral.

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viagrandad
viagrandad

also St Basil's is technically secular now.
Explain?
every single thing in there originates with Orthodoxy

Bidwell
Bidwell

every single thing in there originates with Orthodoxy
what did he mean by this

hairygrape
hairygrape

Officially its a museum now, people still worship there so take it with a grain of salt. Also I didnt post the St Isaac's pic.

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TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Surprised nobodies talked about the crystal shit so far.

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VisualMaster
VisualMaster

people still worship there so take it with a grain of salt
Yes. Not only that, they worship the correct way. Also, it was a way of funding Orthodoxy without having to create a bill to fund all of Othodoxy like Greece does so it's state supported.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Thoughts on the Knoxville cathedral completed this month?

whereismyname
whereismyname

They don't have indulgences and merchants financing them.

Nojokur
Nojokur

Forgot the pic.

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Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Postmodern as fuck but I like it

Lunatick
Lunatick

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Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

....How?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

That's weird, normal cross shape but got sort of a Regency vibe to it. I like it, could do with some vegetation and its a real waste not having stain glass in those feature windows. Its looking bland as fuck at the moment.

Soft_member
Soft_member

would deffinetely look better with some nice conicals out the front, and a painted soffit and gable, maybe a flower garden.

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takes2long
takes2long

The interiors aren't that great (but I guess they match the outside), though I like the lamps and the baldachin.

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Inmate
Inmate

What kind of catholics are you people? Wheres the 300 different exotic paints?

idontknow
idontknow

and the baldachin
Or at least its bottom part/ground level view. The angular "roof" in the previous pic looks a bit bad.

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Methnerd
Methnerd

There's a bit more color in the dome.

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Skullbone
Skullbone

GOD DEMANDS MOOAAARRR!!!!

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Emberfire
Emberfire

Ever since the Catholic Church has stopped being subsidized by the state they have barely produced any great works of art.

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SniperGod
SniperGod

The world needs more cool baldachins.

Pic related, largest bronze structure in the world.

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LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

But for real, thats a really fucking nice dome. Rest of the interior is too bland for my taste, but maybe that just helps draws the eyes to the front. I like it, its pretty amazingly done, but lets be honest 1000 years of being the most expensive buildings in the world kinda has it beat.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

The Pre Raphealites were Catholics.

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Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Dedication a few weeks ago:

youtube.com/watch?v=S8IcJHVISN8

Supergrass
Supergrass

because some people bless the poor by giving them gold, not sitting on it.

Catholics made those awesome aesthetics, but imagine what could be done if they donated it?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Those poor people died 500 years ago, the churches are still there. Anywho, im just here to complain about modern cathedrals, the oldest cathedral in the country got knocked down by an earthquake and the fucks rebuilt it in the worst possible way.

Before.

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MPmaster
MPmaster

because some people bless the poor by giving them gold, not sitting on it.
They did give charity you fucking retard. How come you remember them doing one side of it but not the other?

King_Martha
King_Martha

After

They rebuilt is as a publicity stunt to show they werent wasting resources but the fucking thing cost as much as the rebuild. Also its made out of cardboard.

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Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Man when did catholicism become this anime katana religion for escapist larpers?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Its always been like that.

King_Martha
King_Martha

Is that Disneyland>

Soft_member
Soft_member

Also now that you mention it.

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SomethingNew
SomethingNew

all those glorious artworks
still shitty wooden chairs to sit on, especially when you're constipated

cum2soon
cum2soon

being this undisciplined
We stand up in mine.

Bidwell
Bidwell

kneels on a ceramic floor
hurts your knee
I never get Catholics.

iluvmen
iluvmen

Its to stop all the blowjobs.

Methnerd
Methnerd

It's ironic that modernist furniture and hardware are just as expensive as classical ones, sometimes even more expensive.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

muh kitsch onion domes
at least post some good orthodox architecture

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eGremlin
eGremlin

unironically using the word kitsch
Fuck off back to re ddit

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

We get it, you figured out how to make a shingled cock before anyone else. Stop rubbing it in.

whereismyname
whereismyname

Ironic. That's a protestant cathedral

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

kneeling
instead of matania
or prostrating
Rookies.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowing_in_Eastern_Orthodoxy

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostration

orthodoxwiki.org/Worship#Metania

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

I know, I just thought it would be a real (you) getter.

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Soft_member
Soft_member

Literally muslim tier, lmao

farquit
farquit

Nice ceiling tho

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w8t4u
w8t4u

never was a fan of multiple domes, gotta admit though St Puals exterior is pure sex.

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Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Fuck off back to re ddit
I've never seen such a brainlet response. Are all words you don't like "reddit"?
?

Skullbone
Skullbone

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Emberfire
Emberfire

Personally i much prefer gothic cathedrals though

Soft_member
Soft_member

Do you really suppose that stuff is better than resolving trying theological questions in a way that is both logically satisfying and spiritually edifying?

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5mileys
5mileys

Yes.

likme
likme

looks like Mcmansion

McCathedral

Skullbone
Skullbone

Tiny brain wojack
Gypsy-tier Catholic gilded nonsense

Engorged intellect
Protestant minimalism

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RumChicken
RumChicken

lgbt jesus will condemn the homophones
We truely are on the wrong side of herstory

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

can't argue with Roman aesthetics, but you can't underestimate Greek/Byzantine aesthetics

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

forgot pic

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FastChef
FastChef

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BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

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GoogleCat
GoogleCat

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StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

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Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

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Ignoramus
Ignoramus

I think it looses its charm the less Russian it gets.

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Nojokur
Nojokur

Also youve outed yourself as an orthodox autismo.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

why have i "outed" myself? yes i am orthodox

and the architecture isn't unique among orthodox, it's also catholic, ever heard of "eastern catholic"?

every stone you throw at orthodox christians you drop right on your own head

MPmaster
MPmaster

Is this now a cathedral thread?
Everyone post nice cathedrals from your cunt tree

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iluvmen
iluvmen

Who said im catholic? I just like cathedrals and needed a hook.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

this wins

hairygrape
hairygrape

Man wells looks different from the side.

Methnerd
Methnerd

Don't get me wrong, I always love any heartfelt religious architecture, but I always seem to find massive Catholic cathedrals to be "tacky", for some reason.

Maybe it's personal bias, being raised Orthodox, but all of the character scenes, the stained glass windows, the abundance of stone and empty space, etc. always made them feel kinda weird to me.

I much prefer more subdued aesthetics. A few inspiring icons, a well-curated but simple nave, etc.

Then again, I am a Zen Buddhist, so take that how you will.

SniperGod
SniperGod

Actually only found it a couple of days ago, was searching up St Peters and Pauls cathedral (the rhode island one), theres like 1000 different St Peter and Paul cathedrals, alot of which are Orthodox. Who'da thunk.

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ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

well i like them too, what does me being orthodox have to do with it?

eGremlin
eGremlin

No he's right only beta fags and Jewish women trying to impress their friends say that word

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Havent you heard? Ortho's are the new fedora's. Sorry it happened this way kid.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Russian Baroque

i dont know, i think we're too medieval for that, our top bishops are even called "patriarchs", how shitlord is that

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Need_TLC
Need_TLC

nothing personal

Nojokur
Nojokur

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Need_TLC
Need_TLC

It’s orthobro’s and proddy’s you scum

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

he doesn’t use wood from the council of nicae
Wew lad

Booteefool
Booteefool

Nigga that Romanesque if anything.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

nicaea, learn your own religion.

viagrandad
viagrandad

Eh, I'd call it half assed renaissance revival.

SniperWish
SniperWish

Undeniably the best cathedral interior

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LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

All these churches are made by architects/engineers/mathmeticians who probably didnt give a shit about religion. They were only doing something they liked as a job for the client.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Getting triggered over somebody's typo
K kid
We're pretty shitlordy brother. Atheists are worst fedoras, neopagans are fedora lite.

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Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Prots are retards, I agree. But Orthobros got some nice stuff

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Inmate
Inmate

You say that as if there's no inspiration involved.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

I just really dont like onion domes.

happy_sad
happy_sad

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Poker_Star
Poker_Star

At least they are rebuilding it
I hope they rebuild it similarly to the original Cathedral it was a very beautiful building

Playboyize
Playboyize

are those skylights

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

I don't know what you mean

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5mileys
5mileys

the grey panel thing on the upper right roof, and the one on the roof peeking out behind the top of the spire to the right of the entrance

Emberburn
Emberburn

You have a keen eye friend. They look like skylights
(Pic unrelated)
Also is it me or do English cathedrals look a lot darker and more perpendicular (weird way to put it) then their continental counterparts?

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SniperWish
SniperWish

More white, your grace?

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DeathDog
DeathDog

they arent rebuilding it, it got demolished and that fucking fallen over birthday card got put there instead.

eGremlin
eGremlin

Jesus christ, that is very white!
On the other end of the scale...

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PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

he doesn't go to a butifel Art Deco church daily

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CodeBuns
CodeBuns

is there anything even close to the complexity of some of these cathedrals being built nowadays

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Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

No, theyre filled ridgings above the rafter to transfer some of the weight to the main buttresses. Like a flying buttress, but not really.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

he doesn't participate in Mass from the roof, overlooking the city

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whereismyname
whereismyname

wait never mind im blind.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

I really badly want to break in and paint that place.

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Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

The complexity isnt needed nowadays, we have rebar. Interior complexity still has no excuse though.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

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AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Blaspheming double crossing architects.

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Ignoramus
Ignoramus

What?

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Spazyfool
Spazyfool

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Lunatick
Lunatick

standardised spelling in the ancient world
standardised spelling of a place which is now Turkish

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

The ideas to form a cross, then they got greedy and added auxiliary room shit making it a wierd double crossed cross.

farquit
farquit

More cross is holier though right?

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CouchChiller
CouchChiller

You gonna double kill our lord?!!

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

He takes more sin this way
Sorry jesus

Emberfire
Emberfire

They can? There are plenty of beautiful Protestant and Orthodox buildings of all different architectural styles.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

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Skullbone
Skullbone

English
stop

Evilember
Evilember

Aesthetics by and large are a function of resources, and prosties were wayy too divided for any single denomination to gather enough cash to compete with catholics. Orties had the same problem, although more due to local poverty (eastern europe, muslim dominated areas) than cult size.
If you go look at state sponsored prosty and orty projects you'll find some pretty damn nice stuff, but of course they wouldn't be nearly as common as catholic ones.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

?

askme
askme

Should be in Latin.

massdebater
massdebater

What is titulus
What is Cross of Lorraine
you are b8ing right?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Cathedrals built in the middle ages and renaissance were almost exclusively financed by the town/city, not by the entile Catholic church, and this is true even of fragmented realities like Italy

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Those chairs are so shit, it's like wearing slippers with a suit. Even wooden chairs would look better.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

I didn't mean to imply that the catholic church financed the construction, I meant that the universality of the catholic church allowed for cathedral to be essentially public works rather than private endeavours, which meant way larger resources to complete them. This never happened in prosty areas unless there was a completely dominant denomination like say the anglican church, and rarely happened in orty areas because muslims and poverty, and when neither was true (like in flagship russian cities like St. Petersburg) you could actually find aesthetic shit.

Bidwell
Bidwell

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idontknow
idontknow

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hairygrape
hairygrape

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Methshot
Methshot

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Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

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Skullbone
Skullbone

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Evilember
Evilember

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TalkBomber
TalkBomber

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RavySnake
RavySnake

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JunkTop
JunkTop

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GoogleCat
GoogleCat

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Ignoramus
Ignoramus

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Dreamworx
Dreamworx

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Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

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Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

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5mileys
5mileys

comfy

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Playboyize
Playboyize

so you hang out with beta fags and jewish women? cause only a faggot thinks that jerking off over word choice is an argument

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Why aren't Christians more idolatrous, like the pagan Catholics?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Why aren't Christians more iconoclast, like the muslim protestants?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

You do more for the needy by drawing in people and money with beautiful churches that last for generations rather than just blowing your load all at once.

It's long game vs short game.

idontknow
idontknow

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BinaryMan
BinaryMan

abloo bloo bloo why don't the dumb proles give my nonce priests indulgences

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

massively expensive cathedrals that literally take hundreds of years to complete have a "payoff"

happy_sad
happy_sad

What's better for the economy, public works or charity?
Good fucking luck trying to argue for charity.

TreeEater
TreeEater

user, mom says you have to let me play too

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VisualMaster
VisualMaster

a casino would be nicer

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

public works are most effective when they make something that is actually economically useful, such as building housing, infrastructure or something else.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Post comfy Greek churches

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Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

pietism intensifies

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iluvmen
iluvmen

Why doesn't worshiping an idol of Hubal in the kaaba make muslims idolators, like Catholics with their statues of Mary, etc.?

RumChicken
RumChicken

Let's not act like cathedrals weren't effectively government offices in many places and key "tourist" (pilgrimages) destinations in many others.
And let's not act like the trappings of power aren't a thing either, for that matter.

Methnerd
Methnerd

Why doesn't destroy idols of David, Temple in Jerusalem, like Babylonian iconoclast, like Protestand do with Churches of God, etc?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

What should?

5mileys
5mileys

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Techpill
Techpill

Protestants have shit aesthetics. That church was always an eyesore.

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eGremlin
eGremlin

God demands them

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

caring about aesthetics
It's too easy to spot LARPers

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Greek churches

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Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

its like 2 steps away from a prison.

likme
likme

Anglo Catholic Byzantism
not the most aesthetic

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Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

St. Francis basilica. Wish I took interior pictures.

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Techpill
Techpill

St. Mary in Krakow beautiful inside

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Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Westminster cathedral is objectively inferior to westminster Abbey

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Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Higher does not equal better architecture. Most of the oh so coveted catholic spire fests are build out of sandstone which is light but about as durable as a spit underwater. That’s why 90% of the Catholic cathedrals are undergoing constant “renovations”

King_Martha
King_Martha

Wrong

happy_sad
happy_sad

Did they remove the ugly scaffolding or is it an old picture?

cum2soon
cum2soon

weren't effectively government offices in many places and key "tourist" (pilgrimages) destinations
so? not all cathedral towns were pilgrimage sites.
the trappings of power aren't a thing either,
your confusing cause and effect. cities could build symbols of power because they were already powerful, symbols of power don't make you powerful.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Divine Mercy sanctuary in krakow. It’s a a modern basilica but I kind of like the look

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StonedTime
StonedTime

Wtf is this? It’s sexy af.

askme
askme

outta' my way heretics

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StonedTime
StonedTime

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whereismyname
whereismyname

Nah user they are rebuilding it to its basic look at least
abc.net.au/news/2017-09-09/new-zealand-to-rebuild-quake-damaged-christchurch-cathedral/8888732

Soft_member
Soft_member

It looks like the Power Rangers' command center.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

ugly scaffolding
You fucking what son?

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idontknow
idontknow

The rebuild is expected to take 10 years and cost $NZ104 million ($93.8 million).
Jesus fucking Christ, I knew construction was fucked down there, but this is insane. Worth moving down there as a chippy to take advantage of this? Already got my site safe and bcito papers sorted.

Firespawn
Firespawn

Las Lajas cathedral, in Columbia of all places. fairly modern building, pretty sure its post ww1. But the sites been a pilgrimage location for ages.

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Illusionz
Illusionz

Awesome as fuck interior too, carved straight into the mountainside.

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Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Orthodox do a good job with their own styles.

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StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

This is where I draw the line. Its too much.

FastChef
FastChef

If you were thinking of doing it anyway user you should Christchurch is a very nice city

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Hows the gook problem?

Spamalot
Spamalot

It's a shame that perhaps the most famous church in the Orthodox Church is in a city occupied by Muslims.

Skullbone
Skullbone

St Basils is way more known, its one of the few churches a normie can name off the top of their head.

Emberfire
Emberfire

It's a shame that perhaps the most famous church in the Anglican Church is in a city occupied by Muslims.
FTFY

Flameblow
Flameblow

Literally no. Most Ameriplebs unirocally think St. Basil's is "the Kremlin".

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Roman Catholics bought that.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

You have chairs in your house!?
Wicked child! Chairs are an invention of Satan!

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MPmaster
MPmaster

Roman Catholics
Romes been dead for a thousand years dummie, this is American Catholics.

cum2soon
cum2soon

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askme
askme

I love this episode.
Puritans were legit like that

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Hagia Sophia was built before Henry wanted to divorce his wife

Evilember
Evilember

*bouzuki plays in the background*

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LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

that's not an onion dome

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