Veeky Forums, redpill me on porn and masturbation

Sure, but they didn't have goddamn video and internet

thinking that shit is the same as 1080p HD anal gape

How is that a counter argument to porn being bad?

>dat big tittie blowjob

How fucking stupid do you have to be to defend porn.

It is like defending heroine, there is no single benefit. It's all about them feelgoods. Just admit you are a degenerate loser with no self control.

How bad would it be if I fap to pics of my gf? That wouldn't cause ED or anything right?

You are fine, great really. It is more the multiple women in one sitting that is one of the main culprits.

i think its anna song

I do it all the time. Unlike watching porn I don't feel ashamed or pathetic afterwards.

It's a Kike conspiracy.

Know the saucy on OP's image?

There’s a C.S. Lewis quote about masturbation and how it’s bad because of how the fantasy that we create affects our relationship with our actual future/current partner. Basically the issue is that we can create this idealized vision of a partner in our minds that is perfect and demands nothing of us. So when we deal with a real women who not only has flaws but needs and wants, it strains the relationship. I’m probably explaining this terribly, but you can just search for the original quote. But basically that’s how I feel about it as well.

What causes an increase in horniness? I usually mastrubate once every 1-2 days, but for the past couple of days I've been so horny I can't focus of work, so I rub one out quickly about 3-4 times a day, then I can focus on work again. I also noticed my volume increased a lot, usually if I did do it twice a day the second one would just be a puff of air, but now even the forth one on the same day has nice volume and thickness to it. I just turned 27 last month if age has something to do with it.

So the solution is to just watch porn with realistic woman that will annoy you sometime, so vanilla visual novels

Too true

Reductio ad absurdum, but I guess you'll have to google that since you don't have a strong education.

>there is no single benefit. It's all about them feelgoods
>There's no benefit except for the benefit.
>hurr durr

I've fucked about 40 girls in my life and I make more than 80k/year in my first year out of college. I play video games and watch porn, does that make you mad? 1/2/3/4 as well if your lifts are all you have in life to feel good about.

Oh bullshit anecdote, ok
I earn 200 000/year, fucked over 50 big tiddie sluts and I have all the video games
All because nofap

I remember when I was 15

>1080p HD anal gape

Where do you think you are posting?

Only people who talk about how bad porn is are the people who actually couldn't get their dick up with a girl LMAO

and so has been murder and rape?

I just dont like it because it is a kike conspiracy to undermine western civilisation

dont do this. you become weak to the flesh and get hooked on the roastie meme.

Bad wording.. in reality it's just redpilling you on how worthless holes are. just to get your dick wet you put up with an endlessly bitchy hole. it's not worth it, porn is your savior.

What if I only watch girls gettting off?

Why do people downplay the positives on porn though? no matter how much you suck with women or have a shitty day you can get off to whatever fantasy you want

Dude if you lose to Jews then they are just better than you. Fucking retard

COPE

Escapism isn't considered a good thing. Fix your life.

how can yous be better than you?

i watch porn every 1-2 days, but i can also easily get off without it, so im not sure if im fully cucked desu.

stop watching porn

Based Varg

Jews are superior admit it you shartmaster.

Beta white skinny fat male here
I love watching Blacked/BlackedRAW.
What the fuck is wrong with me

>wiring yourself to get turned on by another man giving pleasure to a woman
>picture shows only a woman's tits
I agree with the argument but whoever made that pic is a dumbo

>That pic
Be careful, Shlomo!

Hentai is alright tho, r-right anons?

Hahaha what the fuck. This is some Rick and Morty high IQ shit.

I watch porn. I'm a student living on Government benefits. Fucked 7 girls, 2 were ugl/fat and can barely deadlify 2.5 pl8. Check m8

if you want a gf or want to fuck stop masturbating. your horniness will do the rest.

So what about just pics of girls you know and nudes youve gotten? For nudes you have to socialize but idk bout just pics

I only masturbate (with porn) after a workout. How about that?

Really helping here
Thanks user

It's not so much porn usage itself is the problem. Like all vices, it's okay in moderation
Similarly, if you only watch normal vanilla amateur stuff, it's not really a big problem (as long as it's not every day). Constant usage dulls your response to that, which is where the slippery slope begins and you get into darker and darker shit like this faggot Obviously, if it starts affecting your sex life (ED, inability to orgasm etc) re-evaluate yourself

Porn itself isnt the issue. I think its more about your relationship to porn (and this goes for anything).
Be honest to yourself about why you're actually consuming it. If you do it regularly, try to go without it for a while and experience how it makes you feel.
There isnt a manual for your psych. You gotta experience for yourself and reflect.

In short, be mindful about your choices.

This

This

This is basically it.

But I would go a step further and say abstaining from masturbation is also your shortest route to fixing ED and deathgrip problems. Also, if your only sexual release is from another girl, then you are much more likely to pursue that and not be a little bitch.

Fucking your hand is a bitchboi move.

how the fuck do i make myself orgasm from bj or sex, ive stopped masturbating (didnt masturbate from ~28. oct to 17. nov, then did it once to check if i was still able to cum or something but then i stopped and have no urges) but still when i take a girl home and we fuck or she gives me a bj or whatever i just cant cum... help me..

IME
Edging is stupid because you spend more time rubbing your duck raw. This increases sensitivity.

It might be cringy but use a flesh light or condoms and a pillow and pump your masturbation session out quick. You'll start healing your duck since its not being petted raw.
Also by using pillows or a fleshlight youll become accustomed to the gentle pressure instead of the damaging death grip.

Give these a try. My stamina has increased with grills since I'm not sensitive from over masturbation.

Thanks for reminding me that I was halfway through Mere Christianity. Also, I fo as far as to say that it's not healthy to have constant arousing stimuli like social media, porn, and movies. You need time to meditate and gather your thoughts.

agreed.

honestly I look at porn at minimum 5 hours every weeknight and those are the hours I need for sleep and and weekends I have no restraint at all and before I know it the sun is up. It's a huge timesink if nothing else but i've never managed to quit completely

dunno whats up with your dick but jacking off excessively decreases sensitivity i wasnt able to ejaculate by sex for months when i started fucking a legit female after porn every single day for years. since then i watched 0 porn and got PE because the sex was too stimulating because shes the only woman i ever see naked

Classic deathgrip my man. I'm guessing you go really hard and fast in order to make yourself cum? a real girl can't measure up.
realistically the gap you mentioned of 3 weeks is not long enough to 'reset' your brain and also to increase your dick's sensitivity. Trust me I've been through it. 90 days is the considered full reboot for fixing your problems. It will be tough but worth it.

no one listen to this LARPer.

even if what he says is true, doesn't mean he wouldn't do better if he cut out porn.

i guess i go hard n fast... but its the only way i know... i did one masturbation now to check if my penis worked still but now im back on the no masturbation... i think ill be able to do it i just wish it wouldnt take so long until i could 1000% enjoy sex.. :( thanks

Do Wim Hoff and then do push ups and body weight squats till you can't move, and jump into a cold shower. Done, can't masturbate now.

going homo is overboard for me but I'll do the exercises and shower thanks bro

Be careful, your brain is literally your worst enemy in this fight. The urge of 'just to check if it's still working' is your brain creating a sneaky way to get your to get that sweet dopamine hit again.

If you fully commit and get to where I've gotten to, your natural feelings will come back and you'll feel a rush of blood move to your penis when you simply smell a girl's perfume. I can't describe how you just feel, it's intoxicating, and feels so natural compared to how I used to be. That's when you'll know 'things are still working'

how long did it take you to fully recover? couldn't cum from a blowjob last week and I think it has to do with porn and masturbation. fuck dude that was so embarrassing

can't say exactly man, because I personally never had proper really bad deathgrip, and was always able to come eventually from sex. So I can't really answer. However, I have had the similar problem of not getting hard because of my addiction to porn, I'd argue that's more embarrassing than your problem lmao. At least the girl might think it's their fault with you, giving you time to fix your shit.
Other musings: I didn't really get any proper action until first year of uni, and from then on I made a concerted effort not to watch porn and masturbate.

I still faltered sometimes though, and without fail, every time I watched porn, my sex with girls the next 2-3 days after would be lackluster and I would be maximum 70% hard of how I felt without watching porn. I would also be much more into it if I had abstained.

I self-insert though. I don't remember the last time I fapped to something where you could see a man's face.

At least I'm not a cuck wew

i feel kind of sad whenever i dont cum from sex or blowjob: if the girl wants to please you (as they usually do) but youre unable to cum: i feel like im dissapointing them.

Luckily, women will think that's on them. That they do a poor job, that they aren't hot enough.
Unfortunately, the story she tell to her friends is that you were in the wrong.
This. On one hand, it's not good that you broke your streak by checking. But on the other hand, you know are able to recognize it when it happens again.

Anyhow, it's probably stress and nervousness involved too.

It's like arduousness becomes a state, rather then "oh, let's just jerk off again". So when you're not in the aroused state, you think something is seriously wrong.

Damn ancient India must have been pretty dope before the mughals fucked it up

>I self insert as the man! I'm definitely not fucking up my brain! I'm pretending I'm fucking girls when I'm actually pleasuring myself to disease ridden whores in the form of pixels on a PC. I'm doing fine!!

cmon son, don't kid yourself. The self-insertion is BS.

well friend, at least you know how to fix your problem. The only way you can go is up!

mere christianity and CS Lewis' "philosophy" is some really shallow shit but this is actually not a bad thought

>That's right goy, pretend pixels on a screen are a replacement for human interaction!

Cmon man, there are shitty women but opting out entirely is not the answer. Develop yourself, fix your addiction to using porn as a crutch and you will see women treat you better and you will enjoy the process more. Wouldn't you like to thrash some hoe in real life?

no, same thing. better than 1080p ANAL SLUTS 4, but still gives you the same problems.

mommy

How can porn be bad for you? Can someone explain it to a brainlet?

porn:
- mimics real life women
- brain interprets as you getting laid with 1000s of 10/10s every day
- biological imperative of reproducing with hot chicks is gone
- brain thus diverts all resources away from sex (as it thinks you're reproducing)
- leads to erectile dysfunction/dopamine receptors dulling
-only thing that genuinely arouses you has to be kinkier and kinkier

A comparison is - think about when you first looked at porn as a teenager, a picture of some boobs would make you rock hard. eventually, you need more and more to get as excited. Everyone experiences it.

Then there are the social ramifications of watching porn, expecting women to be similar and just as accessible as clicking on a website, normal relationships don't excite you as much as 3 18 year olds deepthroating you for an hour so you don't experience the value of having normal relationships (not even just talking about having a girlfriend, even just talking to people is better)

aye. if you can afford it I highly recommend banging an attractive escort every 2 weeks.

is it weird to spend 2+ hours on your fap sessions?

This

Porn literally makes it more difficult for you to get laid, yet people use it as an outlet because they think they wouldn't get laid anyways.

It's like sitting around smoking weed and doing nothing all day because you think you wouldn't do anything productive anyways. Kills your drive to go out there and succeed, and if you aren't motivated to succeed by getting sex your life will suffer from it.

Not weird in the sense that I think a lot of guys have gone through a period of doing it - I know I have. But definitely weird in the sense that it's damaging to your psyche and overall sexual energy.

Just take the nofap pill, friend. Think about the time you waste doing that. If fapping wasn't part of your life, you would be much more productive, OR, even if you are recreational with that time, playing a great single player game is more rewarding than watching porn.

Is that mouse gonna make it?

We're all gonna make it.

Here's the quote

“For me the real evil of masturbation would be that it takes an appetite which, in lawful use, leads the individual out of himself to complete (and correct) his own personality in that of another (and finally in children and even grandchildren) and turns it back; sends the man back into the prison of himself, there to keep a harem of imaginary brides.
"And this harem, once admitted, works against his ever getting out and really uniting with a real woman.
"For the harem is always accessible, always subservient, calls for no sacrifices or adjustments, and can be endowed with erotic and psychological attractions which no woman can rival.
"Among those shadowy brides he is always adored, always the perfect lover; no demand is made on his unselfishness, no mortification ever imposed on his vanity.
"In the end, they become merely the medium through which he increasingly adores himself. . . . After all, almost the main work of life is to come out of our selves, out of the little dark prison we are all born in. Masturbation is to be avoided as all things are to be avoided which retard this process. The danger is that of coming to love the prison.”

This. Go to /soc/ & check out "sluts" threads. It's 99% men larping, but it's horrible how many people think being a whore is cool.

Those are just gadgets. Literally every developed civilisation has fallen when it reached hedonism & decadence level. With birth rates below raplecement levels since the 70's, the West is almost doomed.

Beautiful. I would add moderation to it like 1-3x a week, since humans still need release, but do not become attached to the idea of porn and masturbation.

>With birth rates below raplecement levels since the 70's, the West is almost doomed.

Falling for that shit.

We have 7 billion people on this planet. This isn't he 1700's where we are exploring and we need extra hands to cultivate the land, so we create more children.

Now, if we were exploring planets, then I would side with you, but not in the religious tone you're exemplifying

Nah, this just gives another 'out' for people to go back to wanking. Ideal position is where your release comes from a healthy stable relationship with a real life woman. Anything else and you're just hamstringing yourself in your progression to proper human sexual development.

Yes, the famous "I don't breed because world is overpopulated" argument. I love it as much as the "I can't afford kids" comming from people from the richest countried on the planet.

>this shit
It's not shit, it's legal, official data.

It amazes me how eagerly so many people in the West buy even the dumbest lies leftists tell them.

I have no problem with a declining birthrates, but the global elite won't allow any first world population to decline because they lose money. So we are getting mass immigration to make up for the "problem". As a result you get first world countries that are essentially going to get replaced via immigrants.

Ive actually not masturbated to porn long enough that this got me hard.

Huh.

I used to take adderall and do this. shit's terrible for your psyche.