Daily reminder that japan is literally korean colony

Booteefool
Booteefool

daily reminder that japan is literally korean colony

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Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Indeed, the Yamato oppressors must surrender all land and property to their Ainu victims and return to the motherland in disgrace :^).

viagrandad
viagrandad

the butthurt leafgook again
daily reminder that korea has always been japan's vassal and inferior from the get go, which is what every extant documentary record in east asia suggests.

the inariyama sword is a 5-6th century sword which is thought to have belonged to a man named owake who served the emperor yuryaku of japan
excavated in the inariyama kofun, a yamato style keyhole shaped burial mound, in present-day saitama prefecture, the sword is considered to be an evidence that yamato's influence had already reached to eastern japan in the 5th century and that the emperor yuryaku, known as the great king wakatakeru, existed irl, indicating early part of japanese chronicles' historical authenticity to some extent.

The person buried in the tomb, named Wowake, was an influential warrior in the region. King Waka Takiru in the transcription is thought to be the same person as Ōhatsuse-wakatakeru-no-mikoto as mentioned in the Nihon Shoki, an alias of Emperor Yūryaku.[5]
Yūryaku is believed to be referred to as Bu in contemporary Chinese records (武; read as Take or Takeru in Japanese). These records state that Bu began his rule before 477, was recognized as the ruler of Japan by the Liu Song, Southern Qi, and Liang dynasties, and continued his rule through to 502.

Emperor Shun of Liu Song appointed Bu to the title of 使持節都督倭新羅任那加羅秦韓慕韓六国諸軍事安東太将軍倭王 in 478
literally, the king of wa(japan); wa, silla(korea), mimana(a japanese colony in korea), gaya(korea), jinhan(korea), bohan(korea), military governor of six countries; protector of the east; grand general

Emperor Wu of Liang promoted Bu to the title of 征東将軍. The title was possibly mistaken for the title of 征東太将軍 in 502
literally, conqueror of the east, grand general

yamato made silla and baekje its bitches who sent royal hostages and tributes to japan, which is recorded not only in japanese sources but in chinese and korean ones.
korea = eternal slaves of east asia

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BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Japs never made Korea int colony before 1910 you dumb fucktard. It was the other way around, Nips were allways savage backward tribe.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

too bad, all what i cited are from first-degree prime historical sources written by then china and korea. literally ALL the extent historical documentary records in east asia suggest a fact that ancient japan dominated southern korea: silla, baekje, and gaya in which japanese mimana 'colony' is considered to have existed. if multiple sources from multiple countries suggest the same situation, it should be true. there is no reason why we should reject it, aside from modern nationalism. also, here is a big thing. yamato style keyhole shaped kofuns (pic related) are found in southern korea too and they didn't originate in korea (japan's yamato region has the oldest ones) indicating yamato's influence back then. and korea was also 東夷, eastern barbarian, according to china anyway.

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Methnerd
Methnerd

you're literally retarded. the inariyama sword is proof that the sword belonged to a korean lineage given that the markings on the sword is 'idu script' which is from baekje korea

and again with the yamato bullshit lel. how many times does it have to be drilled into your head. yamato was too weak to conquer anyone

Scholars believe that the Nihon Shoki gives the invasion date of Silla and Baekje as the late 4th century. However, by this time, Japan was a confederation of local tribes without sophisticated iron weapons, while the Three Kingdoms of Korea were fully developed centralized powers with modern iron weapons and were already utilizing horses for warfare. It is very unlikely that a developing state such as Yamato had the capacity to cross the sea and engage in battles with Baekje and Silla.[20][26][27] The Nihon Shoki is widely regarded to be an unreliable and biased source of information on early relations with Korea, as it mixes heavy amounts of supposition and legend with facts.[28][29][30]

stop spamming your yamato crap you inferior subhuman. every historian including japanese ones agrees that you're wrong

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

all what i cited are from first-degree prime historical sources written by then china and korea
wrong. you always spout this shit but china literally didn't even write about japan at all from 200-500 a.d. because japan was that insignificant. there's literally no documents that makes the claim about yamato being as advanced except the nihon shoki which was even 'revised' and rewritten because the japs were afraid of losing nationalism. everyone knows the nihon shoki is mostly myth, it isn't a reliable historical document. yamato period japan was just barbarian tribes without iron weapons or cavalry. literally nobody agrees with your claims about yamato. you couldn't even name a single historian who agrees with your claim

FastChef
FastChef

Which is why the Samguk Sagi and Samguk Yusa talk about Japanese attacks on Korea but not Korean attacks on Japan.
Which is why both Shilla and Baekje princes were hostages in Japan
Why the Chinese chronicles never say Korea owns Japan, but gave the Yamato monarch the title of great king
Which is why the Chinese gave the title of 使持節都督倭新羅任那加羅秦韓慕韓六国諸軍事安東太将軍倭王.(Supreme Military Commander of the Six States of Wa, Silla, Mimana, Gaya, Jinhan and Mahan, and General Pacifying the East and King of Wa.) to a Japanese king and not to a Korean one.
Which is why Japanese kofuns are found in south Korea with Japanese burial goods
Which is why the Japanese Nihon Shoki and Kokiji say that Japan owned the Gaya state of Imna Gaya
get fucked gook

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

the late 4th century. However, by this time, Japan was a confederation of local tribes without sophisticated iron weapons, while the Three Kingdoms of Korea were fully developed centralized powers with modern iron weapons and were already utilizing horses for warfare.
By the late 4th century Yamato is a unified kingdom. And the iron age and bronze age is like the 4th century BC in Japan.

In the 4th century the Samhan were still being absorbed into Shilla and Baekje.

Also its clear the Japan unified into a single nation before the southern half of Korea as evident by Chinese records and the trade missions sent by various Korean city-states while Japan as a single nation makes contact.

Also there's no denying that Japanese were in Korea at this time. In the records of the Three Kingdoms the Chinese says there's Japanese in Byeonhan. Until like the 6th century all Japanese iron came from there, which is probably why the Japanese were keen on securing a colony. The Yayoi came from mainland Asia to Japan in the 6th to 4th centuries BC, you think they forgot how to sail back?

Also the Gwanggaeto Stele says Goguryeo was fighting Japanese on the peninsula, and that the Japanese were involved in the politics of the area.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

implying every japanese attack didn't fail / implying an 'attack' means anything but pitiful pirate raids that were eventually squashed easily and that the japanese king didn't formally apologize for the pirate raids
implying they were hostages
implying the chinese even acknowledges japan during yamato period
implying 'wa' wasn't a derogatory title meaning 'midget pirate' or 'dward pirate' in chinese
implying the nihon shoki are reliable historical documents and not a compilation of myths
you disgusting 56% ainu mudblood japdog

iluvmen
iluvmen

By the late 4th century Yamato is a unified kingdom
nope. "The Yamato court's supremacy was challenged during the Kofun period by other polities centered in various parts of Japan. What is certain is that Yamato clans had major advantages over their neighbouring clans in the 6th century."

And the iron age and bronze age is like the 4th century BC in Japan.
that's false and you know it

In the 4th century the Samhan were still being absorbed into Shilla and Baekje
no, BY the 4th century they were unified. 300 a.d.

as evident by Chinese records
"earlier views regarding Yamato's influence over kingdoms on the southern tip of Korea, even entitling Yamato to tribute, are now questioned. Little or no valid support can be found for the claim that Yamato was then obtaining tribute from Mimana (K: Kaya), Ueda reminds us that the Kojiki contains no references to Mimana, that the most specific Nihon shoki items are for a later time in the Yamato period; Yamao Yukihisa rejects the view that Yamato forces advanced into central Korea - Nihon kokke no keisei(Tokyo: Iwanami shinsho, 1977)"

"Only after [Japan] had learned how to grow rice in flooded fields and to use iron tools and weapons did they move rapidly toward civilization"

"The variety of rice grown in Japan - also suggests that rice came to Japan from the Korean peninsula; The hypothesis that rice came to Japan by way of Korea is also supported by other evidence of early contact between the two people, such as similar mound-building techniques."

"Metal culture, like the growing of rice, was introduced to Japan from Korea. Archaeological findings indicate that by the third century B.C., the Koreans had created an advanced metal culture." - inoue mitsusada, the cambridge history of japan, volume 1

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

implying every japanese attack didn't fail / implying an 'attack' means anything but pitiful pirate raids that were eventually squashed easily and that the japanese king didn't formally apologize for the pirate raids
The Stele says they tooks several Gaya city-states, and even forced Beakje to break its alliance with Goguryeo and join the Yamato led alliance. Then occupied Silla. Pretty bad ass for a handful of pirates, as you imply.
Its not the only time Koreans account Japanese forces in Korea.

implying they were hostages
Oh, I guess you never read the Samguk Sagi or Samguk Yusa. You should read them if you want to talk about ancient Korean history.
Specifically check out Nulji of Silla and Jeonji of Baekje

implying the chinese even acknowledges japan during yamato period
Google 5 kings of Wa

implying 'wa' wasn't a derogatory title meaning 'midget pirate' or 'dward pirate' in chinese
it doesn't have anything to do with pirate, you'd know that if you could read classical Chinese. Wa does mean midget though
倭寇 means Japanese pirate, btw. 倭 is just Japan, the Japanese for obvious reasons tried to change it to 和, but no one followed, so they eventually chose 日本
Also while 寇 can be pirate, its also a word the nationalists used to call the Communists even after the Communists won the war. So while it is derogatory, don't think of them as a petty band. Especially with the numbers given in the records.

implying the nihon shoki are reliable historical documents and not a compilation of myths
Which is why I mostly use period Chinese sources.

You don't know what you're talking about, its obvious by your posts.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

The Stele says they tooks several Gaya city-states, and even forced Beakje to break its alliance with Goguryeo and join the Yamato led alliance
baekje was always allied to japan. like said earlier, japanese came from baekje in the first place. even the japanese king hirohito admitted his ancestors were from baekje. the pirates themselves weren't attacking cities, they were attacking fishing ships and trade vessels

I guess you never read the Samguk Sagi or Samguk Yusa
any mention of 'hostages' is completely fabricated with no evidence. "The Samguk Sagi, which also documents this, can also be interpreted in various ways and at any rate it was rewritten in the 13th century, easily seven or eight centuries after these particular events took place". "Other historians, such as those who collaborated on 'Paekche of Korea and the Origin of Yamato Japan' and Jonathan W. Best, who helped translate what was left of the Baekje annals,[12] have noted that these princes set up schools in Yamato Japan and took control of the Japanese naval forces during the war with Goguryeo, taking this as evidence of them being more along the lines of diplomats with some kind of familial tie to the Japanese imperial family and as evidence against any hostage status."

Google 5 kings of Wa
Which is why I mostly use period Chinese sources.
during the entire 4th century the japanese aren't even mentioned in chinese records. "The Japanese Islands are never mentioned in the Chinese dynastic chronicles from 266 to 413" - w. hong

whereismyname
whereismyname

"The Yamato court's supremacy was challenged during the Kofun period by other polities centered in various parts of Japan. What is certain is that Yamato clans had major advantages over their neighbouring clans in the 6th century."
Sure they battled the Kuma and So in Southern Kyushu and the Emishi in the East, the Yamato however was a unified kingdom. Having already absorbed the Izumo and Kibi.

The Kofun period is from 250 to 538 AD. We are talking about the late 4th century right?

that's false and you know it
OK, iron wasn't found until the 1st century BC, but bronze was earlier.

no, BY the 4th century they were unified. 300 a.d.
Nah, Mahan City-States are still in conflict with Baekje in the 4th century according to the Samguk Sagi.

The rest of what you said has no baring. On the topic. Surely rice production and metallurgy entered Japan from Korea. Both coming to Japan in the Yayoi period. Well before the 4th century AD. I believe that Imna Gaya was a tributary of Japan, but that's a topic for another thread. Yours is about Japan being a colony of Korea, which you've provided no proof of. Or Japan's inability to attack Korea, which exists in countless sources.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

No, you dumb fucktard. Japs did not even had the means of transporting people overseas until late 16th century.

Japanese were NOT even fucking united in 4th century, and Japanese state is like only 1750 years old. Dumb fuck.

iluvmen
iluvmen

Yamato however was a unified kingdom
yamato wasn't a kingdom, they were more like a small independent state

OK, iron wasn't found until the 1st century BC, but bronze was earlier.
not even. iron working was only introduced in the 4th century by baekje migrants and then later in the 5th century there was sufficient iron

likme
likme

4377674
baekje was always allied to japan.
Just going off what the stele says.

even the japanese king hirohito admitted his ancestors were from baekje
One, that was Heisei, and two duh. There's records of marriage alliances between Beakje and Japan in the Nihon Shoki. Monarchs in Asia had numerous wives. Also some Baejke nobility migrated to Japan and became clans. Where they married into the imperial family.

You are conflating a lot of different stuff. One time you say Kofun, another time you say Yamato then at another time you narrow things down to only the 4th century.
implying the chinese even acknowledges japan during yamato period
I said google the 5 kings of Wa. Now I have to limit it to the 4th century only? During the chaotic 16 kingdoms? Who knows what records were lost at that time.
In the late 3rd century the Chinese said Japan had a unified kingdom (not all of Japan of course), Yamatai, although some chaos erupted when Himiko dies then the next time in the early 5th century we get Japan again. Maybe there was a period of civil war during the 4th century in Japan, but since its not mentioned by any source or in archaeology, its speculation.

But in the same records that the Chinese are talking about Yamatai, they are saying southern Korea is a patchwork of city-states in the Samhan.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Japs did not even had the means of transporting people overseas until late 16th century.
hmmm.... how did they battle Goguryeo?
How did they battle the Tang then?
How did they get their iron from Gaya?
How did they get to Japan from the mainland?

Japanese state is like only 1750 years old
That's pretty old.

yamato wasn't a kingdom, they were more like a small independent state
Based on what? Their culture seems to have spread out as far as Kyushu and as east as Kanto. They obviously had the means to make contact with China, and no other state on the Japanese isles did.

not even. iron working was only introduced in the 4th century by baekje migrants and then later in the 5th century there was sufficient iron
Are you seriously suggesting there was no iron goods in Japan until the 4th century AD?
The Chinese even say in the 3rd century that Japanese are all up in Pyeonhan getting iron. There's archaeological finds in Japan with iron tools in the Yayoi period.

askme
askme

Just going off what the stele says.
most likely, it was fabricated by goguryeo to justify their conquest of baekje

that was Heisei
akihito, not hirohito

One time you say Kofun, another time you say Yamato then at another time you narrow things down to only the 4th century
not true. in regards to the kofun period, the context was about the fact that japan wasn't entirely unified in the 4th century or even a while after. and when mentioning the 4th century, it's because it was during then where large migrations took place because of the wars between the three koreas. and it correlates to the same timeframe that japan started improving

In the late 3rd century the Chinese said Japan had a unified kingdom
where

in the same records that the Chinese are talking about Yamatai, they are saying southern Korea is a patchwork of city-states in the Samhan
the chinese were already aware of the conflict in that region. that's why silla allied with tang to invade baekje

TreeEater
TreeEater

South Korea? More like West Japan

Booteefool
Booteefool

4377809
most likely, it was fabricated by goguryeo to justify their conquest of baekje
Could be, who knows.

akihito, not hirohito
Yes, Akihito is his given name, Heisei is his imperial name

the context was about the fact that japan wasn't entirely unified in the 4th century or even a while after
Yeah, but what but pic related is the Yamato kingdom. I mean, what is "Japan," Do we include Hokkaido? The Kurils? Okinawa? The fact is by the 4th century the Yamato are the only real power on the islands. So much so that they are called Wa. Which means Japan in general, and no other polity can rival them. Even though it would take a few more centuries to subdue the other tribes.

In the late 3rd century the Chinese said Japan had a unified kingdom
where
Records of Wèi and Book of the Later Han
But I am saying a unified kingdom, not that all of Japan was unified. Baekje was a unified kingdom that absorbed the various Mahan city-states, but it didn't unite all of Korea. My choice of words was poor. But I wanted to emphasis that the Yamato wasn't some loose group like the Samhan was, but a single state.

the chinese were already aware of the conflict in that region. that's why silla allied with tang to invade baekje
Again, you are playing fast and loose with dates.
When?
During the Yamato period?
The Kofun period?
The 4th century?
The record I am talking about is the 3rd century, the Tang, Baekje and Silla didn't exist yet.

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askme
askme

stop damage control, stupid gookleaf

baekje was always allied to japan
so, the "fully developed centralized power" was allied with what you call mere "pirates"?
and sent precious princes to them as hostages? that's a nice "ally" you've got there.

japanese came from baekje in the first place
we wuz yamato n shieet
ahahahahaha, how badly do you gooks want to be the yamato?
too bad, baekje isn't old enough to be the yamato people.
you gook will never EVER be yamato master race.

even the japanese king hirohito admitted his ancestors were from baekje.
he didn't though. while japan had an emperor born to a concubine of baekje descent, she's a woman, which has nothing to do with the imperial line, and the influence is negligible, given the fact japan's had over 120 emperors. on top of that, this is only recorded in japanese chronicles which you claim to be a fabrication. that's a pretty convenient cherrypicking, as usual

i really pity you gooks.
the sole what you can do is damage control to trivialize or negate a pile of real historical sources and archaeological evidences while what you bring are all about fantasy based off of gooks' nationalistic history education, gook "scholarly" views with a handful of western sympathizers, and a few contrarian japanese scholars' obsolete "hypothesis" for the sake of attention already debunked.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

this damage control
"the sole what you can do is damage control"
learn to speak english better you dumb japmutt
2 nukes were frankly not enough for peasants as retarded as you. literally every western and eastern historian and all archaeological evidence points to korean superiority over japan. japanese themselves were literally korean so in fact it's more like japs are going
we wuz korean
instead of koreans saying they were yamato. the entire lineage of japanese kings is from baekje's king. japanese are literally baekje and all evidence points to that. japanese hiragana itself comes from baekje's moryagana. japs were illiterate until koreans arrived there. you're in way over your head, japmutt

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

this damage control
"the sole what you can do is damage control"
learn to speak english better you dumb japmutt
2 nukes were frankly not enough for peasants as retarded as you. literally every western and eastern historian and all archaeological evidence points to korean superiority over japan. japanese themselves were literally korean so in fact it's more like japs are going
we wuz korean
instead of koreans saying they were yamato. the entire lineage of japanese kings is from baekje's king. japanese are literally baekje and all evidence points to that. japanese hiragana itself comes from baekje's moryagana. japs were illiterate until koreans arrived there. you're in way over your head, japmutt

seriously, stop embarrassing yourself. you're just repeating the same shit that's already been refuted numerous times already. the whole 'yamato' shit was already dismissed as b.s. by every historian, including japanese ones. the whole 'hostage' crap is also worthless b.s. that was disproven by logic alone. yet you keep repeating the same drivel over and over again because you're a low IQ japmutt who can't process information. why don't you go take a trip to aokigahara and fuck off with your low IQ drivel

Evilember
Evilember

we wuz korean
ahahahaha, wannabe yamato gooks

seriously, stop embarrassing yourself.
it's you who is embbarassing yourself, retard
all evidences show the same fact silla and baekje were subjugated by yamato, not the other way around, as opposed to what gooks wish.

you're just repeating the same shit that's already been refuted numerous times already.
i'm repeating the same ESSENTIALS with primary, OFFICIAL documentary sources written by contemporaries, and you can't bring any record to counter them with, other than repeating:
kogryo's record was fabricated!
late han china's record was fabricated!
liu song china's record was fabricated!
liang china's record was fabricated!
sui china's record was fabricated!
song china's record was fabricated!
koryo korea's record was fabricated!
japan's record was fabricated!
, simply ignoring them by saying it's worthless, or turning to some convenient hypothesis which isn't mainstream at all. no sane historian would argue that 2-5th century samhan were "fully developed centralized powers", as other user also pointed out, and this view alone shows your extreme delusion. they were little more than loosely bound city states whose boundaries were not even fixed. so basically you are saying "stop bringing stuff which i can't face!"

because you're a low IQ japmutt who can't process information.
we all know how retarded gooks are and how shit-tier their academia is. japan has a lot of nobel prizes, fields medals, and other famous international academic prizes as well as tons of scientific discoveries and technological innovations while gooks ZERO, literally. besides the innate moronicity, you gooks place sentiment and vanity above logic and fact, making it impossible for yourself to see the truth. this is why gooks are devoid of rational thoughts and has the miserable history as a result. no wonder it's been the gook - eternal slave subhuman race, the rapebaby of east asia, lmaooo

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