ITT: Bro Science

ITT: Bro Science
>gotta drink whey protein shake immediately after a workout or youre missing out on gains
>squats are bad for your knees just like deadlifts are bad for your back
>split up each day for one muscle group so you have a full week to recover
>shock the muscle

Unless it was just stupidity I read an article (a real one) that said when weightlifters and athletes took a shake after a workout they had increased muscle recovery rate/growth. Was I just reading it wrong or....

there is no scientific evidence that drinking protein shakes is better for MPS than just eating a high protein meal.

there's lots of evidence that post-workout nutrition is important.

so if you can't get a high protein meal immediately after gym use a shake...... why is that broscience?

its not. shakes are just convienient. but you arent missing out on gains by not drinking overpriced powders

ah, I got ya

>muscle memory
>muscle confusion
>more sleep necessary for optimal recovery
>no fap works and doesn’t cause ED

but more sleep is good tho, right?

...

Depends on what the control was, if it was compared to lifters that don’t consume any kind of protein Post-workout (be it a shake or a steak) of course the ones ingesting protein will have a better result

>split up each day for one muscle group so you have a full week to recover

Full week to recover a large muscle group (like pecs) is not inherently wrong, you can do 60-120 reps in that one chest day then take a week to recover. Am I wrong? I know you can split that between two days (so like 30-60 reps each day for two days.)

>gotta drink whey protein shake immediately after a workout or youre missing out on gains
You should get a lot of carbs and protein after workout tho, your stores are depleted
>squats are bad for your knees just like deadlifts are bad for your back
You will snap something one day. Don't mean doing 300lbs lmao squat, but if you will go higher, above the 500-600, you will get injured with high probability
>split up each day for one muscle group so you have a full week to recover
Admit, this is bullshit
>shock the muscle
And?

>muscle memory
>more sleep necessary for optimal recovery
those a true though, experienced lifters that spend lots of time without lifts can get their gains back much easier than a regular lifter can gain mass
also your whole life is better with good nights of sleep

most people can recover in 48-72 hours, so you can train muscle groups with greater frequency.

>no fap works and doesn’t cause ED
I mean the super powers autists claim NoFap gives you are bulshit, but not fapping it to porn all the time is overall a positive thing

>more sleep necessary for optimal recovery
Ok, fuck off. A good sleep cycle is the cornerstone of gains, along with progressive overload and a good high-protein diet. Intentional misinformation like this is half the reason I don’t fucking come to this board anymore

Your elevated protein synthesis is lasting to 24-32 hours after workout though, depends on the muscle group. You will get max of 2 days of meaningful recovery. Your body doesn't care that you did 150 reps 2 days before instead of 30, you will end up sore is all. That's why if you hit it three times a week in fullbody program you will have elevated muscle synthesis for the pretty much whole week

You have to take a rest day to maximise progress.

Muscle memory is a scientifically proven thing.

Thanks. But I get concerned doing shoulders too close to chest.

>you can target different parts of the chest (upper, lower)
>you can create a “mind-muscle connection”
>supersetting works
>

you should do both shoulders and chest on the same day, since you use both on bench and ohp; just dont go overboard on rep volume

>you shouldn’t lift for more than 2 hrs or you’ll risk overtraining
>compound lifts are superior to isolation lifts
>squats and deadlifts boost your hormones more than other lifts

I fell for the brosplit meme for a whole year ;-;

I've read some studies that examine the effect of 25-45g of specific amino acids directly after anaerobic exercise. If I recall correctly, leucine was one such AA that was associated with certain extra excretion of byproducts, which signified increased anabolism post-workout

>compound lifts are superior to isolation lifts
>broscience
nice try fag

>gotta drink whey protein shake immediately after a workout or youre missing out on gains

this
I work out on an empty stomach first thing in the morning, and don't eat til lunch. I'm lean 200lbs for ~6'3, and have been for more or less a year.

Nutrition is important, but timing by the minute is autistic. Depending on individuals, type of food, etc.. it takes anywhere from 4 to 8 hours for food to be completely absorbed in the blood stream. So that 30 mn anabolic window doesn't mean shit, you're just filling your stomach, it takes min 2h30 for the stomach to empty, and absorbtion of nutrients takes place further down the line, in the small intestine.

The only "fast" absorbtion is high sugar/carbs jelly or liquids, often used as booster in endurance sport, those more or less hit your bloodstream right away. Protein, and fats, even in liquid form, take longer to be digested

>lifting weights builds muscle

A lot of athletes have chocolate milk after training, not a protein shake. Something to replace the glycogen

same here, not saying it doesn't work, but it creates all sorts of imbalance, and full body workouts get you the same result for half the effort

>2 lumbagos because of bro-split
>following a balanced program, except I have a weak mid-section, and bad back (family thing)
>I should have been doing more back work than upper body/core/legs, instead I did equal amounts of each
>fast gainer, my upper body and abdominal muscles were litteraly bending my spine (t. sports physician, who trains and follows the pro-socceer team in my city)

DELET

Bro science, but I think it's probably right.

It stands to reason that consuming one source of protein with a higher bio-availability of amino acids is more anabolic than another source of protein that requires longer to digest.

That said, I guess you couldn't assume that any normal high protein meal of the same macros wouldn't be digested fast enough to make up for the initial gap.