Go to doctor

>Go to doctor
>He tells me I have excess estrogen and low testosterone
>Straight up tells me my arms are as developed as a 15 year old girl

Pic rel are my arms. Is it obvious? Should I get on test?

yes, get on test asap

No, just start using your hands. Like you know, doing work. Test is the easy cheating way.

get on estrogen, become trap, live the good life

lmfao no way, would let you give me a handjob desu no homo

The thing is I have close to female levels of estrogen, I can't just "do work," I would need medicine. I mean I'm still healthy now, Idk if I should do it.

Post face

Work out dude, deadlifts make anyone manly

>muh thyroid
>muh genetics
>I gain weight when I diet
kys faggot

you’re not some freak that looks like a girl despite being active, you’re a worthless faggot that probably sits on his ass all day

This, OP. I need to fap.

I do track and I lift. What you're looking at is the result of me working out. And I said none of those things you listed.

Seriously, cut your girly excuses. You gain test by using your body moron. If you are a one of those "esports" "gamer" people who sit around a computer all day and never actually go outside, you will have low T.

Post body. Lets see your trap potential.

jesus christ even your hand gestures look feminine
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When I was like 16 my arms where like that - it didn't take much to change them - just do some physical work, workout or whatever - just do something.

>15 y/o girl goes to the doctor and tells doctor she's a boy
>asks "why do I have girly arms"
>doctor says "looks like you have excess estrogen and testosterone levels, with respect for typical male levels"
>girl says "oh nooooooo, are you sure?"
>doctor says "yeah miss*urhm*ter user... actually your arms are exactly as developed as a typical, 15 year old girl"
>darn, hit me with that test doc

Girls love my hands. Its so soft and smooth. I do work manual labour and as a tech. I don't take care of my hands either. Just naturally blessed.

Meh, just become my bitch boy trap sex slave. Sniff my braps, suck my dick and get paid $200-500 per session. The bigger my braps, the more you get paid.

I want your petite nose in my asscrack, user. I want your nose do deep in my face you can smell my next meal.

LMAO WHY ARE UR HANDS LIKE THAT
but for real u can still pull off that extremely effeminate guy look that still somehow slays pussy all over the world for some reason idk why, i know a couple guys like that

Start exercising and quit eating junk food. Eat a fuckload of protein and slam some fucking weights, you pussy.

You're probably deficient in something, did the blood work come back with any indication of that? Start supplementing vitamin d and zinc... I'm sure there are others. Do you get enough sleep? Working out and eating is important too

Just stop being a vegan. Eat lots of meat and dairy and it should start sort itself out.
Your mind will become sharper and you will be more able to focus on things you're doing.
Eventually you may get the energy to exercise for even more gains.

what the fuck

this

please become a trap

i think we need to see this, crop off face if you'd like. I just cannot believe this

to be honest OP the only way I can give you good advice is if you post a picture of your body. It may be worth it if it's bad enough but we need to know how bad it is.

time to become a qt grill OP

>tfw current season sal is now fatter than he was in this pic
Must be why they stopped this gag

Can you please explain what in the fuck is that picture of your arms?

my arms look like that too and my hormone levels are fine. quit making up bullshit

You're a really obvious case with an obvious solution.
Don't do T, friend.
You need to get on cypro ASAP.

Gainz have no proven long term benefits.
STOP LIFTING, START LIVING!
Dont listen to the bitterbros telling you to go on roids. That will just make you feel even worse about yourself. They just feel guilty about missing out on the lives they might have had, if they had resisted the urge to bulk up. Now they sit on Kazakh knitting boards telling other young "men" to repeat their mistakes. Misery loves company. You can do better. You can be happy.

GAINZ HAVE NO PROVEN LONG TERM BENEFITS.
Instead of turning your self into a stinky werewolf, take the nicer course. Save your soft skin and your sunny disposition. Become the woman you've always known you are. You have obvious potential. Go to your local Planned Parenthood and do informed consent. There is no reason you shouldn't be as attractive as any cis girl. In the meantime, you get to live the dream as a qt trap, as your feminine features (the ones you've always secretly loved anyway) become even more prominent.

You know what you want to do. Reject the broscience that will leave you a shallow emotionless husk. Gainz have no proven long term benefits.
STOP LIFTING, START LIVING!

Girls are only beautiful into their mid twenties, early thirties if genetically gifted. Men with gains are beautiful until 60.

> I lift
> what you see is the result of me working out
what the fuck
you're full of shit, working out increases testosterone a shit load. clearly you've never worked out in your life and if you did, post routine and diet

Op, there is a reason low T is used as an insult, because it means you're probably a lazy fucker who spends all his time sitting.

Got to gym and shift some iron, test levels will naturally rise.

Fuck lifting, become my qt3.14 trap waifu.

Then you are the ultimate femboy, please do porn someday.

No, trap for us you slut.

shut the fuck degenerate faggot
What did your doctor suggest? did you ask hi for TRT? Why would he just tell you that and not offer a solution?

I can feel the estrogen leaking from that image, jesus those are the perfect handjob hands

Pls be my bf

This. L O N D O N

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I want these underage arms to jerk me off.

Can i fuck your hands?

Yeah, uh, we definitely need more visuals here OP.

how did you take that picture

>not profiting off that free high grade testosteron

So are you going to post a pic of your perfectly feminine body OP or am I wasting my time waiting here?

he's working in tech
he uses the timer

i never understood low iq normies taking ugly pictures of mirrors

this is a sure fire way to double your test in a single week. It helps if you're not too physically fucked but regardless you'll notice a difference. For reference I have damage to one of my testicles from this stupid bitch who kicked me when I was younger and my test is healthy.

things you'll need:
>friend(s)
>tennis/football/frisby(ultimate)/pool(race laps)/basketball
>rainbow 6 siege/dark souls
>meat, steak, fuck chicken, oysters, shrimp, tuna, etc...
>The sun

You need to get angry as fuck for this, play sports with your pals and get angry as fuck for sucking ass or losing or being beaten and gloat like a motherfucker when you win. Siege/dark souls can be supplemented before the gym if you aren't able to play sports. Lift heavy as fuck and don't let the
>cardio kills gains and lowers test
meme get to you. It's fucking stupid, HIIT and competitive sports will get your test pumping hard as fuck. also make sure you're getting a solid 45 minutes of sunlight on your chest and back. The more competitive the sport where your heart rate gets high as fuck the better.
>but anger increases cortisol levels and decreases test
no. Stress where there is no relief increases cortisol. In sports there's a back and forth of wins and losses. Just make sure you're pushing yourself to win and the stress wont build
>protip, the more challenging the competition the higher the test boost
beating retards won't make you feel accomplished

Cold showers are a meme, no fap is a meme, soy is a meme, onions are a meme. No porn isn't so much a meme. Competing is the number one reason test levels are at an all time low. People don't fight physically or compete physically near as much. People don't have to prove themselves daily so they don't need the test to make them massive and your body will work efficiently as possible if you aren't subjecting it to stress. If you don't believe me try it.

I want to grab those girlish wrists from behind.

webcam maybe

How young were you?
Is the damage visible? Did she use a lot of force?
What did she do exactly?
What are your current test levels?

How does it feel seeing a black man pumping your mum full?

Just accept your fate and become the femboy trap you were always meant to be. Then post pics.

every fucking thread why won't you leave you fucking nigger

become trap

Whats "fuck chicken"?

eat onions and start lifting

>(lack of) Competing is the number one reason test levels are at an all time low.
This is an interesting take on it. I never considered that before. Thanks. Going to specify "physical competition" as chess clubs and similar non-emotional activities probably isn't working for most people who stay calm.

It's well known that psychological effects affect Testerone levels in in our body (from psychological studies and physiological placebo trials) so it makes sense that "trying to win" attitude will improve T.
Going to keep that in mind when reading future and look for attitude. (Being forced to compete vs actively enjoying it should play a difference in my experience.)

>spot the faggot

How old are you?
My hands look exactly like yours except hairy.

She's probably a larping 15 year old girl.

>Soy is a meme
>Onions are a meme
wrong

get a fucking job you fucking r9kfag. I got beast forearms at a buffalo wing restaurant constantly lifting baskets filled a hundred wings with one arm cuz i have to hold the bowl with the other arm. constantly lifting 80lb raw chicken boxes helped too whenever we restocked the fridge.9 straight hours of being on your feet lifting chicken.

No excuse, do some proper lifting. is right, I actually have female levels of estrogen because I have ovaries and even my arms look more manly than yours and I'm just 116 lbs

Yes

>i have ovaries
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Are you a woman then? Or a man with ovaries?

post your feet. right fucking now.

you were made for BBC

>The thing is I have close to female levels of estrogen, I can't just "do work," I would need medicine. I mean I'm still healthy now, Idk if I should do it.

Please tell me that this is fake.
Go on test ASAP, user.

>things you'll need:
>>friend(s)

Your lifestyle might promote low test as well, medicine is the easy way out. It doesn't build character. Your choice.

Yes unless the cost in an issue.

You're a ignorant retard to be honest. A guy with normal levels of test who doesn't work out and eats like shit still doesn't look like this. They have much larger hands and being that skinny you can see some muscle definition and vascularity. If this faggot works out he'll just look like a woman that works out.

Uhh, I have all of this except the sports part. can I substitute Disc golf for ultimate frisbee?

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Those are lovely, dainty hands. And look at that soft skin.