>fit meatheads unironically think squat and deadlift are healthy sustainable exercises
Have fun with chronic lower back pain when you're 60 since you fucked up your serrated discs putting 2x, 3x your bodyweight of pressure on your spinal column
Hope you got a 6 figure job that includes chiropractic insurance just to escape the daily pain
>lower back pain at 60 >common ppl get it at 20 something
really made me think
Logan Jackson
I realize this is anecdotal rather than actual evidence, but... well, Deadlift helped strengthen my back going off of several visits to a chiropractor.
Lucas Rogers
Ahhhh, the ole' unsubstantiated spinal health claim, my favorite DYEL coping mechanism.
Easton Long
>I have bad form therefore you do too
Mason Ortiz
spinal genetics determine if your spine is suited for bearing heavy compressive loads. unfortunately the fitness "experts" at large fail to account for this fact.
Jason Thompson
you are all aware that chiropractors are essentially witch doctors whomst cause back injuries rather than actually helping them right?
Nolan Hill
you're fucking retarded, people get chronic lower back pain at 30
Tyler Brown
We're all the same; all equal.
It's 2017 I don't even know how you can think that people have different biological characteristics.
Isaac Reed
What should I do instead then?
Adam Williams
Good form won't save you from compression
Michael Sanders
Had chronic lower back pain issues before i ever did a squat or deadlift and bow I don't. Also shout out for hyperextensions.
Michael Wilson
if you want the weightlifting granny pics, you just have to ask
Ethan Parker
>Implying I plan on being 60 years old Live fast and leave a huge coffin
Kevin Bailey
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Jack Carter
You do realize your body is a living organism that recovers and strengthens itself when necessary. Exposing your body to a progressively higher load over time without overshooting or being under-recovered not only increases your muscles size but also recovers your joints and makes them more resistant to sheering forces. Did you know that inactivity is the number 1 reason for fucked up joints? Herniated discs aren't most common with lifters but with 40s who try to pick up a box off the ground with shit form and end up slipping a fucking disc because their body's not used to lifting shit.
Lift heavy but recover properly. Don't egolift or go for PRs too much. Train for sustainability.
Brody Peterson
if you're doing them wrong, even a little, and at high intensity they can be harmful.
Parker Cook
Not instantly. I've seen enough crossfit faggots in deadlift ladder competitions pulling 400+ with piss poor form walking off injury free. Bad form it snaps you shit up only over time, but bad form once for a PR for example won't kill you. Your body's not that fragile.
Zachary Myers
Both ways, I snapped my shit using poor form doing deads. I felt it instantly.
Tyler Peterson
not saying this was your experience but often there is something wrong with form or just genetics and there is gradual wear on the vertebrae or strain on spinal muscles that isn't noticed until shit ends up being snapped
Bentley Gonzalez
Lower back pain distracts me from the pain of tfw no gf
Jayden Rogers
Source?
Kevin Martin
Oh wow I might get back pain at 60 instead of 30/40/50 like every sedentary person does
Daniel Cruz
>can't escape h.264
Isaiah Thomas
A lot of people point to top level powerlifters with injuries as their reasoning not realizing that they're on roids which increase rate of muscle gain and max muscle potential without increasing the strength of their connective tissues at the same rate.
Natty's aren't going to have to worry about a blowout since they aren't building muscle 4x as fast as their connective tissues are adapting.
Benjamin King
but decompression will
reminder to always do pullups after your deadlifts
Brayden Murphy
the only people who think this are people who have been lifting less than 5 years and aren't pulling 500+
i know i'm taking a risk everytime i squat or deadlift, i do it because it's an """""""""""athletic""""""""" (lol) pursuit that i enjoy doing, and i do have some wear and tear accumulating at this point
if you don't care about squat or dl numbers and just want to look good on the beach or whatever the fuck there is no reason for you to load your spinal column so heavily, do some lower risk meme shit and focus on your upper body
Samuel Reed
an old powerlifter at my gym is a chiropractor he fixes my shit for free heh have fun with no gains though
Brayden Barnes
kek
Samuel Jackson
So do tell OP, what's the max weight I should squat/dl so I never get hurt?
Hudson Hill
Seconding this. Have scoliosis and hereditary back pain due to having a weak back; my dad is sometimes immobilized by it. He does an absurd number of reverse crunches or whatever to strengthen and counteract it. I've acheived better results with dead lifting, stiff-legged dead lifting, and bent-over rows.
Carson Gutierrez
>Hope you got a 6 figure job that includes chiropractic insurance just to escape the daily pain
I just don't live in a third world country
Jason Flores
why reproduce if you have scoliosis
fucking modern medicine.
Alexander Bailey
The best pound for pound deadlifter ever had scoliosis. Also, google jordan feigenbaum or barbell medicine. Fucking bitter DYELs baiting man.
Joshua Bailey
This might be true, I have never felt any discomfort in my back, but I guess you're fine until you're not t.190kg 1rm
Asher Davis
>The best pound for pound deadlifter ever had scoliosis
Deadlifting gives you scoliosis confirmed.
William Long
>tfw had severe lower back pain BEFORE I started squatting and deadlifting >tfw now I'm doing more than my bodyweight in both exercises my lower back pain is largely gone
Gabriel Ortiz
top lel
Evan Hernandez
>tfw pain before I started deadlifts and after
Camden Cruz
>implying I am going to focus on increasing the weight of my squat and deadlift for the rest of my life
Once I rep 3 pl8s for squat and 4 pl8s for deadlift, I will take off a pl8 to on each lift and focus on doing high volume. Once I start to get older, I'll go with lighter weight and switch to a more cardio routine. I don't see the reason to lift heavy when I'm past 35.
Jose Stewart
If deadlifts are so good for you, why did they kill Jean-Paul Sigmarson?
Ethan Kelly
Chiropractic "doctors" are as medically licensed as the typical weed dealer and even less effective at helping anything.
> this is also the slogan for fat acceptance activists
Eli Cruz
>said the guy who is currently unable to do them perfectly >who also doesn't rehabilitate himself nor use active recovery menthods
Adam Bennett
or just dead hangs
Jason James
>dead hangs
Mason Rodriguez
>Hope you got a 6 figure job that includes chiropractic insurance just to escape the daily pain ya I live in a first world country where nobody has to pay more than the insurance fees for pain treatment, if they cant pay the insurance it is paid by the state
Brandon Scott
sure but, it's deadlift day, you're working your back, so...pullups
Asher Murphy
But I do them before deads. Dls is always my last compound exercise on the days I do them, because after them I'm too exhausted to break pr