Falling for the Supplement Jew

Some of that shit contains glutamin and aspartam what causes cancer.
Lot of shit ingredients, why are pure whey powders so expensive?

Having trouble with my dick getting up due to marijuana use, is tribulus worth trying? Or not at all? I have stomach issues on and off and light headedness along with that doesnt sound too fun.

i spend much more on food now
havent had proton powder in ages

caffeine is enough from the -ine list

The cheapest source isn't always the best. The cheapest whey powders have lactose in them, which most people are intolerant of. This is ignoring the fact that the fitness industry has been overstating the importance of protein for over 50 years now, starting with (((Weider))) back in the 60s. No one needs 1g of protein per lb of bodyweight. In fact, most people need less than half of that to survive and only slightly more to build muscle.

The average 180 lb Veeky Forumsizen needs 90g or less of protein a day to maintain size and a maximum of 144g to build lean tissue [1, 2]. You'll be hard pressed to find an academic source that says you need more than that. In fact, protein intake is negatively correlated with testosterone production.[3]

1. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9841962
2. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1400008
3. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9029197

So, unless you're /fraud/—meaning you get your testosterone from an exogenous source and don't have to worry about suppression—you might actually be hurting your gains by falling for the protein powder Jew.
>why are pure whey powders so expensive?
The more processed a powder is, the more expensive it is going to be. It takes a lot of work to get rid of the lactose. The good news is that you don't need to waste money on protein powder at all.

>is tribulus worth trying
Absolutely not. You can get a generic bottle of liquid Cialis for $40 online. That will have a much more profound effect on your ability to get hard and stay hard than any weak, herbal bullshit like Tribulus.

The boner gains of supplements like Tribulus/Maca/Yohimbe are greatly exaggerated. I noticed almost no difference in libido or erection quality whatsoever on any of the above; I wasn't hornier, wasn't harder, and didn't have a lower refractory period from any legal supplement.

I take glucosamine sulphate tablets (£10 pa)
Multivitamins, (£10 pa)
10-20kg protein powder (£80-160 pa)
Tesco pre workout smart price tea bags (£5 pa)

I think my belt cost £13 and wraps £1.50.

What am I missing out on?

If I wanted pre-workout you can buy a kg of caffeine powder for a few quid.

I like beta alanine cuz I do a lot of conditioning. Creatine for strength. Apart from that, maybe caffeine? Cheap and effective.

You mong vitamin D3 is synthesized in your skin by uv exposure (=sun). Since no one picks cotton in da fields no mo', pretty much all of you basement dwellers are deficient.

12 months of supps for so cheap? U wot m8?

True, whey powders is not very needed at all, its just an "extra". A little 140gram proteïn food is easy to eat per day.

I understand how it's synthesized you condescending faggot. You missed the point, which is to say that the deficiency you are claiming is absolutely overstated and over reported online.

I work in an office all day, then go to training at 6pm. Throughout the day I get maybe twenty minutes in the sun - on my face. On weekends I might get some more when I'm out in the yard working. Even with this minimal exposure my bloods came back with sufficient D3 - and I've repeated this test in winter just to be certain, again it was normal.

You hardly need to be picking cotton or whatever other patronising tripe you're suggesting to have enough D3... christ.

You cunts must really be utterly fucked that you actually need to supplement D3...

scientificamerican.com/article/vitamin-d-deficiency-united-states/

>3/4 of USA is deficient, according to large scale offline study.

Better start pickin' boy

I don't waste money, I invest in my health, I take:
>fish oil daily
>spoon of gelatin once a week (make a drink with hot water)
not sure if you count protein as supplements, but I eat a protein cookie as I hate the powder and making a protein shake

Again, (((AMERICANS))) and your cherry picked studies you stupid burger swilling, cunt.

Because you're especially dense, let me reiterate to you my D3 is fine, as in not deficient. It's not my fault I don't live in a country with zero standards when it comes to nutrition.

Pea protein. Chicken thighs.

It's not really a supplement though. It is a vital amine that people don't get due to our minds growing faster than our genes. Vitamins can sometimes be supplemental (and usually BS) like taking 10g of vit C because you feel a cold coming on. Many other supplements aren't complete snake oil though, but they are one of those things where your paying for inches in a mile race. Myself, I only take fish oil, vit D, creatine, and biotin because they are cheap, haven't caused me any side effects. Some other things worked, but caused side effects. There was a fat burner that worked damn well for me, but it got taken off the market because a few Nancy's got hepatitis.

I don't know if it counts, but phenibut is the shit.

also, mushrooms like reishi and cordyceps are great when you have a cold.

>phenibut is the shit.
Do you take it just for the buzz or does it do something bodybuilding related?

Illegal in Australia :(

I get free Flintstone chewables because my aunt works for Bayer. So 0$ unless you wanna count gas which is about 20$

probably the only pwo that actually does something

I take it you're a faurkin strayan cunt then aye mate. No wonder you're not deficient. Enjoy your skin and colon cancer though!

Good preworkouts are barely legal cocktails of uppers. Look at the ingredients list on mr. Hyde for example. It felt like I just railed a grammer of yak the first time I took it.

They work if you get the right ones.

All that text and you couldn't name some. Fuck off with your irrelevant shit.

>Pea protein.
I'm willing to accept that if you tell me the name so that I can look up the price.
>Chicken thighs.
That's nonsense.

Chicken thighs are 99 cents a pound since I live in the midwest. Whole milk is 77 cents a gallon, and you can find flank steak at 5$ a pound. It's nice.

>All that text and you couldn't name some
I invalidated your question.

>Chicken thighs are 99 cents
And there's like 14g of protein in one, while there's 24g in 1 (one) scoop of pic related, which costs €50 per 2,2kg, which contains 74 servings. That's 68c for a serving that contains 10g more protein than your inferior product.

No, you didn't since it being the cheapest option doesn't change from having to eat less of it.
>subhumans can't digest it
That's the tragedy of their existence but doesn't invalidate my argument.

So how much vitamin D and zinc should you be taking? Also are there any specific kinds to look for?

>pic related

...

i was gonna take a shit on you, but i use this too, so i guess you alright.

>contains milk and soy

ABANDON SHIP

Alright, whole milk at 77 cents a gallon. Boom.

I wasnt even tryna argue, just pointing out regional food price differences.

You also think a pound of chicken thigh has 14g protein oh i got trolled

4/10 gj buddy

>nutrition
>sun exposure
hmmm

All first world countries are fucked when it comes to daylight time.
Unless youre from some equator shithole or dusty sandnigger city youre more or less deficient/you dpnt have optimal amount

Any phenibut users here? Is it worth the money?

just do eca, like the rest of the world.

>how much vitamin D
1,000 iu per 25 lb of bodyweight is the rule of thumb. Mind you, I have never seen an academic source support this claim, it's basically just bro science that goes around on the internet. I'd say the darker your skin is, and the less sun you get, the more D3 you need to supplement.

>zinc
A 50mg tab will give you around 300 percent of the recommended daily allowance. Use a pill cutter if you want to make sure you're not wasting any.

>Also are there any specific kinds to look for?
Vitamin D3 is the vitamin D you want, not D2, which is also sold over the counter and marketed as D3. Also, some brands cut corners and underdose their capsules. Apparently pharma grade D3 exists but I'd imagine it's quite expensive and only available if you take a blood test to prove you're deficient.

As for zinc, zinc citrate and zinc gluconate are the best zincs in terms of absorption. Again, these are not going to be found in most ZMAs and if you do find one there, it's underdosed and overpriced. You can get a bottle of zinc gluconate at CVS for $8 (I wait for the two for one sales). Or just look around Amazon for a bulk deal.

For the third time, blood tests have confirmed it time and again for me, that yes, I do have an optimal amount.

What part of this is so hard to understand. I don’t even live in any of the countries you’re describing. Jesus, the depths of American stupidity is really quite frightening.

>No, you didn't since it being the cheapest option doesn't change from having to eat less of it.
At some point in your life, you will consume food other than fart powder. This food will contain all the protein you need to survive and thrive, provided you aren't living in a famine area or living in reduced circumstances here in the west. If you're on welfare, by all means, keep chugging your whey and bragging about "muh digestive enzymes."

>subhumans can't digest it
You mean most of the human race, including those superior to you in every imaginable way excluding your ability to tolerate sugar distilled from cow tits? Gotcha. By the way, you lose lactose tolerance with age. Enjoy it while it lasts, dairy cuck.

Thanks for writing that up user. I’ve been taking ZMA since I never really looked too far into the zinc in it, but I’m going to switch over to just straight zinc now.

Supplements I take and have noticed that it actually works:
-Protein powder (duh)
-Multivitamin (doesn't hurt, gives you the necessary vitamins in one dose plus has Vit D)
-L-carnitine (fatty acid burner, makes me fart a lot, but gives me a bit of extra energy)
-Creatinine (helps with a bit of gains, my lifts jumped 10-15lbs 2 weeks after taking it)
-Arginine (help give a better pump)
-Fish oil (anti inflammation)
-Vit C (immune health)

For god-tier cum gains, you need Lecithin caps, Zinc, and L-Arginine.

You are welcome. Godspeed, user. We're all gonna make it.

I probably should've said I'm only 20. So something as strong as cialis HOPEFULLY shouldn't be necessary. And it would just be temporary.

Watch less pron

ZMA is the biggest meme ever. Lecithin is bretty good tho, I hopped on lecithin yesterday and damn, all I can say is my GF had soaked panties

Where the fuck can I get caber from? I wanna experience those multiple orgasms

I don't watch any. I'm not sure what the hell my problem is, going to get my T levels checked though.

Anyway is tribulus worth trying since I really shouldn't need that much help? Or just don't worry about it till I get a blood test

>fat burner
What do people think these things do?

Also not a ton. I bought BCAAs once, but did research afterwards and found out they don't do shit if you get enough protein. Ever since, it's just protein powder, vitamin D, and creatine for me.

I use protein powder because It’s easier than stuffing down 2 chicken breast for dinner

Zinc and magnesium are good, but you can buy them separately for much cheaper than ZMA

Shit is not good for you, but Google research chems if you were looking to use it on a rat, there are tons of places but giving away a source is against the rules

only supps worth thinking about:
>protein
>arginine
>leucine (main ingredient in bcaa, increases protein absorption by a bit)
>caffeine
>creatine
>beta alanine
>theanine
>ashwaghanda
>green tea extract
>mag glycinate
>quality multis

none of these are a replacement for decent sleep, good diet and plenty of water tho

>Creatine

You lost me when you posted that trash.
Lol enjoy being bald.

>mag glycinate
>ashwaganda
What do these do?

>vital amine

Cholecalciferol (Vitamin D3)
has no amino group.
What the fuck is a ‚vital amin‘ even?
I‘m a chemist and this triggers me.

magnesium glycinate/bisglycinate is for sleep, magnesium because it improves sleep, and mag glycinate because glycogen is a sleep aid too. it's also one of the most bioavaliable forms

ash is a natural herb used in indian medicine that is excellent for anxiety, stress, sleep and anything else GABA related. it is also said to help with boost test levels

I use both with l theanine, which helps me sleep at night and gives me mad dreams but also reduces anxiety during the day

Take K2 along with D3 if you want to actually utilize it

>magnesium
>whey
>zinc
>d3
>meme

Opinions on potassium 100mg caps multiple times a day?

Magnesium+Multi+Fish Oil+D3 with lunch generally for me.

When did JLC start shilling to Chinese millionares with this 50,000$ abomination. Fucking triggered.

Also, what I was originally gonna say:

For the amount of money spent on worthless supplements to boost gains by 1%, you could juice with the highest quality stuff: anavar, trenbolone, HGH, pure Test, Turanibol.

Even if you don't want to juice, HGH in moderation has no side effects, and gives nearly permanent gains (new muscles, not just swelled muscles) as well as better sex, better skin, better sleep, better mood etc

all for 600-700$ a month, or less for cheaper goods.

>lactose intolerance
Not an issue for 99% of actual people. Sub-human shitskins need not apply.

>What do people think these things do?
Make your heart beat faster.

>Lot of shit ingredients, why are pure whey powders so expensive?
Because all of the other ones are poisoned with soy and sugar. People who want to avoid those are willing to pay more.

Phenibut isnt illegal in aus wtf