Social skill improvement thread

>tfw you see a girl you really like, she's in your league and you're too autistic to talk with her

I saw a waitress at a random breakfast restaurant last week. She was cute but I just can't talk with girls. I always come off as some creep and get anxious, fuck up my words. However any other conversation is totally fine for some reason.

>*notices she's slow with the cash register and computer etc.*
>"are you new here?"
>"yeah sorry, started yesterday"
>"yeah no problem take your time, tell the chef to watch out for those egg shells"
>"o-oh sorry about that"
>"its no biggie"

In my imagination after this convo I say something like
>"what time do you get off, 4:00? 6:00?"
>u-uhh yeah around 5:00
>"good, wanna meet up and do something together?"

But I know that I'm probably over my head or I would probably fuck something up.

How do I improve my social skills?

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>be moderately attractive and fit
>I see lots of hot girls I would fug (50+ in one day on my college campus)
>have no idea how to approach any of them

This is my only obstacle. I could be a Brad (not a Chad, but still) if I could just find a way to start a conversation. But muh autism.

What do I say?

you need to learn to accept to make mistakes, make a fool of yourself a couple times, then take that experience to git gud. don't expect to pull the first chick you talk to.

force yourself to interact with girls regularly. I got a job on campus at a place that has 50 employees and only 6 of them are male. I just went to work and got used to talking to them.

Turns out girls are people too and nothing to be afraid of. Now I have no issues talking to anyone.

First step is knowing never to even bother with girls who work jobs like that, It's their job to be nice, they get hired so people like yourself keep coming back and buying shit. Don't worry though you're not the first to fall for this and won't be the last. Also bad move insulting the chef unless there really was an eggshell in the food, he's the guy who spends 6-10 hours with this girl so there's a good chance they're pretty good friends and girls fucking HATE it when you're rude to servers/chefs and i mean they fucking HATE it. Instant red flag for them.

Also she will get into shit if she agrees to go on a date with you while at work. It's considered unprofessional in a restaurant. So even if she wants to, she probably will still say no.

>How do I improve my social skills?
Buy a mic and play a game where you are talking to people. Start with normal conversations and then move on to a game where you can give orders to people. When you're getting good at that start singing in the mic. You could go and do this IRL but you don't want to look autistic do you? It's better to practice these things through a mic were no one can see you. I found CS:GO a good game for this since it shows when people commend you for being a good leader,teacher or player. If you get a few ?commendments? then you know you are saying the right things.

hi

or if youre a cool kid...

Also, forcing something like:

>"what time do you get off"

out of the blue after small talk is risky. Try to find something interesting about them and talk about that. Ask them questions, be observant. I know it sounds counter intuitive, but you need to be their friend first. I'm not saying that you need to enter a platonic relationship for 6 months, but you have to pass through the "friend" hoop first. That can take an hour or it can take a week, it depends.

Read How To Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie. That will help with that.

I forgot my glasses. Can you please post the text in this picture as a comment for me please?

Fuck it dude. Do what you want.

>>"what time do you get off, 4:00? 6:00?"
>>u-uhh yeah around 5:00
>>"good, wanna meet up and do something together?"

Holy fucking autism.

There was a shell in my scrambled eggs. I knew my gut was telling me women who are working are god level hard to get.

You are me.

at least I chose not to say it
no bulli pls

>great at holding a conversation with women at work who i have no interest in
>know that 1 or 2 are interest in me but fuck that drama
>apparently im charming and funny as fuck when im drunk, but i have trouble knowing when to stop drinking so i rarely drink anymore
>any woman i talk to outside of work i immediately go full autism
Just...

>not going for eye gains
k

take phenibut, thank me later

> at gym, waiting for a bench
> suddenly see a girl pinned under barbell
> bar is less than 95 lbs so I lift it off of her easily
> she's cute
> we get to talking and I eventually get her number

Am I a normie now, Veeky Forums?

>be walking in san francisco with my patriots t shirt on
>some girl yells to me “go pats!”
> say ”haha thanks!” and keep walking without making eye contact
felt really autistic after this one. i used to be normal but have become more socially retarded with age.

how much? i got some last week. tried 250g to 500g to 750g. Not sure its doing anything. Will up the dose but what should i be feeling if it works?

20mg/kg body weight
inflated confidence, happy for no reason, urge to talk, you mentally become chad basically

I cant carry a conversation. I have nothing to say.
I dont think im shy, I can speak in front of people such as classrooms and addressing a room. but when it comes to talking Im just not good at it.
I think its because i dont care for connecting with people but I know I will need to become better at this to get ahead in my career.
I have a fiancee so I dont care much for picking up girls.
anyone similar to me?

i'm similar, i think i know why
do you have symptoms of ADD?

ok. 70kg so that means id need a dose of 1400mg. how often can i take this dose?
really trying to find if this works for me or not. Im Australian and phenibut is getting scheduled in febuary. If the 1.5g dose works for me Im stockpiling a shitload

Weird thing is.. I never really had to appraoch a girl to get them. I have a very social group or friends in college and they just sort of fall in to my life. It may be confidence but even was I was very unconfident at points in hs I noticed girls would just fall into place sometimes.. Guess it means im attractive but I dont even think I would ever ask a random girl out... Maybe I could because I see alot of girls I think are cute but cute girls fail into place alot with me. Just meet them somehow.

hmmm, i dont think so. I mean i sometimes have trouble focusing on one thing such as assignments or task and look elsewhere but other than that i dont think so. that can be easily explained by procrastination right?
what would confirm add?

Why does human courtship have to be so fucking difficult? You have to navigate this social minefield and say exactly the right things and respond in exactly the right way and nail all the bodylanguage all the while reaching minimum thresholds for looks, money, and status.

Meanwhile the other animals get off easy all they have to do is beat the shit out of another guy or build the best nest. It's not fair.
And now it's going to be written in the Akashic records that I'm biologically inferior to the overweight obnoxious goofy soyboys that have had a long line of gfs ever since highschool.
Fuck this shit planet.

because humans are complex animals
all of these difficulties you face are tests made by others to prove you are a functional lover/friend

for me i just see ADD symptoms and feel that exactly describe me, and i can't carry conversation sometimes cuz i'm not interested
cause of ADD is low dopamine in certain part of brains
since i'm low on dopamine, my brain is always looking for dopamine hit and boring day to day conversation doesn't give me that, it must be exciting and intellectually stimulating and conversation, or with people you're already close with because being around them also gives dopamine hit
for normal people they have enough dopamine so they're okay doing boring thing and get overexcited with slightly interesting things

Great advice user I'm going to wright this on my mirror so I can read it every morning.

> Just meet them somehow.

The ants strike again

improve self
dont be afraid to make mistakes
go out and face the outside of the comfort zone

if you fail on any of these you wont make it

Just pretend you're someone else. That you're not you. That helps a lot.

u big brain

It's bullshit. I hate smalltalk and flirting looking at those tinder screenshots makes me want to gag.

Just give me a fucking gf goddamn it HAND THEM OVER

i bet you're this motherfucker
>be facial aesthetic god
>lol just talk to them lol it's easy lol

>faking it
good luck trying to gain people's trust
its easy to sniff that out with intuiton alone

>not trying to get scrolling gains
what are you a fucking soyboy?

>entitled

g o o d l u c k

I mean be you but pretend you're someone else inhabiting your body and personality if that makes any sense.

i detect a nice guy

so have you solved your socialising problems? if so how?

you probably wouldn't like my solution but i take drugs to solve it

>its only acting entitled if you don't get it
Funny how I've never seen someone calling a person with a gf entitled

It's actually not that hard. You are just focusing in too hard on a single girl you like and not letting go of the fact that she'll never like you. The chad way is to spread yourself out to as many chicks as possible and pick up on the ones that are interested and discard the ones that are not. Raising your minimums will help a lot of course but the important thing is to have a constant revolving door of chicks into and out of your life. When a chick likes you she'll let you know in her own way and all these chicks will let you practice for when a serious contender comes along.

Also, avoid dating apps because those are for those who fail at irl social or people who want hookups. Huge waste of time.

hmm... yeah, not a fan... unless its supplements and vitamins?
i heard those adhd drugs are pretty hardcore. how has your life improved on them? is it worth it?

Real social dynamics took me from a chode who sat inside all day to someone who is comfortable approaching girls I find attractive in the street, without drugs. Takes work and puts you in scary situations, but you sound like someone who is prepared to go through a lot to see results. Godspeed, user.

pretty hardcore if you get hooked to it, if you take it so you feel like normies then not so hardcore i think
i would say just try it at least once and you'll know whether it will fix your problem by having perspective from both sides, you take literally zero risk by taking it once or even a couple times

I get plenty of matches on Tinder, but the thing is, I don't know how to talk to any of them. I don't have anything interesting to say to them, and they don't seem to have anything I'd be interested in talking about. The few women I try to talk to the conversation fizzles out, its boring, or even the few I do match up with that have same taste as me on the few things I like (videogames and anime) have garbage taste that I am put off from talking further to them.

Then there is the fear of being labeled as pervert of gross since it seems women don't like getting called cute, that they have a nice butt, or any sexual flirtation.

I can call a dude that he's hot/cute, has a nice package, looks fun to hang with, and we definetly hang out, have fun, and have some sex. Or even just staright to the pint with each other and meet up for blowing.

So my question is, why are women so alien? How do you talk to them? Where do I find girls with similar taste?

look, all your problems here on Veeky Forums are the same which is low dopamine
try some strong stimulant drugs for once and all normie-ness will come naturally
if you're scared of getting addicted, take it only once, you have nothing to lose

I haven't had anything like a 'crush' in like 12 years. There really aren't any girls in my life at all I just observe them.

hahahahaha was she just like scrolling instagram or something while pinned to the bench?

thats because he worked on getting a gf
dumbass

asking for something with no effort whatsoever from your end is very much entitled

I'm trying man, I really am. Been on this stuff for a while and it honestly just makes me feel lots of anxiety, more than before.

stimulant causes anxiety, natural stimulant is called phenethylamine(PEA)
depressant relieves anxiety, natural depressant is called gammaminobutyricacid(GABA)
what you want is drug that combines both and have both effect, it's chad mode without effort

where do you get that

only way to get better at talking is to just talk to girls. Its like learning how to do squats. At first its bad and embarrassing but eventually you get good and its second nature.
At least thats how it was for me. Made an ass of myself talking to girls for a while before I just started talking to them without really thinking about trying so hard

>all they have to do is beat the shit out of another Or look like you can, hence lifting.
>or build the best nest.
So pretty much
>money, and status.

m8

from multiple sources, there's no single document that explains how to attain chad mode
if you find anything wrong just say it

drugs cannot fix you but they can give you a temporary reprieve so that you can fix yourself. unless of course you stay on them long enough to become dependent on them in which case you're double fucked.

Where do you even meet girls to talk to? Only a couple at work, none at the gym I go to

Getting money is easy compared to the social dance you have to learn.

do you mean how to get the drug or how do i get that conclusion?

But how do you talk to girls? Where do you go?

What drug are you talking about. I know how to get ADHD meds, but you mentioned one that does both

>build the best nest
>get the most money

Same here, thought they were all bullshit until recently. I decided to actually try their advice out a few weeks ago and now I can walk up to any girl and open with no problem. I'm not getting laid yet, but that stuff seriously changed my life.

PEA + GABA = phenibut
ADHD meds i'm sure you know are amphetamines, they're derivative of phenethylamine

What if you ask what time they get off, but you weren't doing it to ask to do something, but just to continue the conversation because you suck at conversations?

Will people assume right away if you are asking that that you are trying to get with them afterwards?

>I knew my gut was telling me women who are working are god level hard to get.
waitresses are easy trash that usually fuck the entire staff of the restaurant by 3 months into the job. if they arent in front of customers, they are in the back talking shit about them.

they arent remotely close to hard to get. just talk to them like you care about them. try pretending like you care even. most people cant tell the difference anyway.

I'm similar, I think the issue is primarily organic conversations i.e during work icebreakers, public speaking, presentations I'm confident, I excel socially because there's a predefined topic/task, but when it comes to just day to day conversations unless we've just done an activity together then I'm absolutely hopeless which is why there's such a stark contrast between people that are my friends (constant conversational topics to be had) and people I don't know well. Quite weird because most people tend to be the opposite from what I've experienced: nervous during presentations, public speaking etc but are really good with organic, day to day socializing.

yes! public speaking i dont care, i get to prepare what im going to say. im not shy.
conversing i have trouble. I think its because theres no purpose. everything i do, asking questions, telling someone something... has a purpose. conversing is just fluff. But i need to get better at it because its how you build relationships.

Fuck is this why autistic kids are always screaming into the mic?

Also who bothers to click on the commend buttons anymore? Maybe when it was released but its practically a useless feature at this point.

Usually if you are a great player/leader they just add you as friends instead and you continue to play with them for a few games.

I did find you can pretty much say what ever you want and no one will care. So if you really do want to talk about random shit and practice saying stuff to people it would be pretty good.

However.....If you really are going to use an online shooter to practice legitimate social skills and talk to other weirdos/autists/neets/kids/and anyone in between. I would recommend playing against bots and using the command (( voice_loopback 1 )) take away brackets. to replay your own voice back to you and hear what you actually sound like, that way you can adjust the pitch of your voice and the pronunciation while you talk and get a better udnerstanding how you sound to people.

>Great game
>CSS was better though

it seems like you're being over-confident, which actually demonstrates the opposite. say exactly what you mean, and be okay with whatever results.

because the intelligence to navigate this minefield is a desired evolutionary trait.

I was gonna write an elaborate answer, but I'm way to drunk and it's way to late to write this out coherently. I might attempt it if the thread is alive tomorrow
You posted a JBP picture though, so regarding your "how do i improve my social skills" question, watch this
youtube.com/watch?v=6pm8_cohgVg

G-guys i'm going to the club for the first time in my life this Saturday. What should i know before making a fool of myself?

Have drinks, meet people, talk to girls without an intention to fuck them, have fun.
Girls sense desperation, turns em off. Be the fun guy who doesn't give a fuck, watch as the girls come to you

Wait for her to get into her car at the gym parking lot, follow her car to her house. Now you know where she lives, then on the weekend return to her house and follow her car to the bar and show up at the bar and be like oh what a coincidence and chat her up

are you me

hahaha holy shit just from what you thought the convo would be i can tell youre a betazoid cuck who puts pussy on a pedestal

great advice

Just start the conversation flowing with a hobbie/subject both of you share interest in and you shouldn't have a problem asking her out.

Also,

If you're serious learn Daygame, it's life changing.

This
After I stopped playing Vidyaa I went over to a social randomiser app like "Hola". You basically get matched up with random people from around the world and just chat via video

We're all gonna make it! :D

Your problem, and the problem that most people have, is that instead of treating your problems like a game, you treat them like they are a chore.
I'm sure you're good at videogames that others are shit at, are you not?
It's because you treat them as a game, not as a chore.
If you want to get good at something you have to understand that getting good at that thing is a game, a game that you enjoy, and a game that you can excel at once you understand how to play it.

Damn it all to hell. because OP posted a pic of dr. peterson, all the comments are being narrated in his autistic voice, complete with pauses.