Male hair loss is caused by too much testosterone

>male hair loss is caused by too much testosterone
>many soyboys are bald/balding
why?

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ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/21353476/
academic.oup.com/humrep/article/23/11/2584/2913898
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11431339
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11577007
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11694625
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7892297
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10828262
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15735098
perfecthairhealth.com/men-stop-thinking-your-hair-loss-is-due-to-high-testosterone/
sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0015028209009662
s3.amazonaws.com/academia.edu.documents/44126204/Clinical_studies_show_no_effects_of_soy_20160326-26058-1nxcyyj.pdf?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAIWOWYYGZ2Y53UL3A&Expires=1515707340&Signature=3fmvwKbY1bZdl4AsS4PTa6tv/6E=&response-content-disposition=inline; filename=Clinical_studies_show_no_effects_of_soy.pdf
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too much dht not binding properly, not too much testosterone.

do you want an actual scientific answer?
because soy doesn't do shit to your testosterone levels.

Not the question, idiot. Soyboy just means numale, a group known for low T. Stop getting so triggered and learn to read.

>BIG SOY

meat causes balding because it contains creatine which raises DHT levels

most numales i see aren't bald, they have shaggy hair and hipster beards.
are you ok? where are you seeing tons of bald numales?

Male hair loss on head is too much DHT
Is about thats its not binding, for real? do you have any link please?


As far as i know the body turns some T into DHT like, 10-20%, and if you use Test you usually raise your levels by 10-100 as high (Correct me if im wrong) But the body still makes 10-20% into DHT, thats why they go bald

These scientific studies argue otherwise.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/21353476/

academic.oup.com/humrep/article/23/11/2584/2913898

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11431339

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11577007

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11694625

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7892297

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10828262

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15735098

>creatine is bad now
Having meat in your diet, even while supplementing creatine, doesn't affect your DHT levels enough to cause balding.

Because it's actually caused by a mix of high estrogen and high stress.

>www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Ever since I read a "study" there saying eggs are correlated to homosexuality I never know what to believe

hormonal imbalance induced by modern eating habits and environment.
>soy
>dairy
>GMO's
>chemicals everywhere;

Higher level of estrogen and/or compounds with estrogenic effects (like genistein, found in soy) cause more
testosterone to DHT conversion. Testosterone has no effect on hair loss, while DHT does'
Also less testosterone reduces the ability of the body to "give nutrients" to the hair
perfecthairhealth.com/men-stop-thinking-your-hair-loss-is-due-to-high-testosterone/

nah it for sure does

male hair loss is caused by lack of exercise and pure diet and blood flow, lots of gym rats are balding but all the fags who run 24/7 and look like anorexic retards have full heads of hair

>one study
>may
>in part
>further investigation is warranted
>study doesn't actually show the relation between creatine and baldness
Like I said, it won't affect your DHT enough to make you lose hair that you would have otherwise kept. If you take creatine and go bald, you were going to go bald soon anyway.

Yeah disregard the study better listen to this user's word!

It's purely just genetics. All males from mother's side lost their hair before they hit 20.

>56%
>not gonna make a difference

keep coping

Soyboy was a fun word until vegans ruined it. And you guys wonder why no one likes you.

I’ll trust the unanimous findings of 8 studies over the opinion of t. soyboi 11/10 times.

post study.

(Allthough it does make sense, looking at the presumed overal higher intake of eggs and copious amounts of faggotry on Veeky Forums)

>this

is this true?

no, its pure broscience.

god dammit

it's genetic lol

>test is 1313 ng/dl (higher than the highest normal range)
>been lifting for 3 years
>full head of hair
>2 months ago start losing hair for no reason, nothing has changed at all

Dht isn't the enemy, it is more androgenic and anabolic and valuable for cognition.

I agree. This is what I see everyday but if the jews didn't confirm it in a study retards spout that it's "broscience".

>Doesn't trust pubmed because of 1 dumb study
You literal retard, you do realise that just because PubMed has indexed 1 dumb study doesn't mean the other literal HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS, can't he trusted. You should always judge a study individually.

>objective observations are jewish trickery
You're like a fat person.

Truth. Soyboy = numale ordering a soy latte machiato at starbucks with his hipster friends while talking about how, omg Trump is so horrible you guys!
A redpilled nationalist like Cory McCarthy can be a vegan and eat soy every day and still never be a Soyboy.

>who run 24/7 and look like anorexic retards have full heads of hair

About that...
>grand tour winning cyclist
>skinny as fuck, never lifted anything heavier than a fork
>was bald in early twenties

Not to mention plenty of other endurance athletes who have mpb as well.

It's not caused by too much testosterone, it's entirely genetic.

All I know is my wife went from an A cup to a C cup over a span of 6 months when she started drinking a shake with one full cup of soy milk every weekday with breakfast and I snuck a dropper full of fenugreek extract into it. She gained weight literally nowhere else on her otherwise very petite frame.

>actual scientific answer

Nice projection fatso, I'm skinny. Also, the fact that it wasn't tested yet in a study doesn't mean it's not real.

Women have more receptors and that is what makes the thing apples and oranges. Hops in beer will help with menopause problems in women and risk gyno in men

Because marathon-type training is highly stressful. The ideal is 15-30 mins of cardio every day and it absolutely makes your existing hair look much better as well as stop the progression of hair loss in most cases. I don't have proof but my own experience and the observation of many people I know who do cardio in these ranges.

The way you should see it is that you have nothing to lose to try it, even if you disregard hair it's great for lifespan, life quality and mental acuity due to improved blood flow.

Someone bragging about their test is like someone trying to brag about their IQ.

Test doesn't cause balding.
DHT is one of the leading theories.
The other ones include shit health and inflammation.
There in one more that is being researched by people themselves pretty fast, it's abiout some retarded process causing your skin on the top of your head to change, but the proposed treatments can't be sold like jew drugs fin and minox so no one will fund the research. It's the reason dermarollers work. There is also some hilarious theorycrafting bundled saying you don't go bald on the sides of your hea becasue that's where you press your head on your pillow. While in its infancy it does make some sense
Some chink did a shitty study where a certain regular head massage had great results.

If you do your research, you'll find that most stuff that are great for hair without making your dick stop working have anti-estrogenic properties.

Not a single balding man has low estrogen. BTW Finasteride also has potent antibacterial properties, which has been hypothesized to be the real reason why it works. High bacterial count increases estrogen and hair loss.

Vitamin A - antiestro
Vitamin K2 - antiestro
Selenium - antiestro
Zinc - antiestro
Vitamin E - antiestro

Also high dose magnesium is great because it antagonizes calcium and as such decalcifies the scalp. Feel and massage your bald areas, you'll find that it is hardened.

This, I'm vegetarian, but it doesn't mean I want Muslim hordes in civilized nations

Competitive cyclists are on drugs lad.

So much bro science on Veeky Forums I’m starting to think everyone here is an acoustic 12 year old

I said like a fat person, you illiterate mong. And since my anecdotal evidence completely contradicts your anecdotal evidence, calling it broscience is perfectly justified.

>high stress

Super underrated answer. Nu-males live a life totally dominated by eggshell walking. The stress they subject themselves to with the neurotic, childish, effeminate garbage that characterizes their entire inner universe is absolutely immense.

Why are so many faggots into the trap fetish? Is it getting brainwashed by porn? I bet Jews are responsible.

>coping soyboy

Does apple cider vinegar work for antibacterial purposes?
If not what would work?

Cute enough to get you hard, emotionally unstable enough to be an easy yet satisfying lay. And the traps get the attention they desperately crave.

That's why I stick to spirits

Test levels are more important than IQ

Wtf is a trap? Girls with dicks, but are they born with dicks? How do they have dicks?

Capsaicin (cayenne pepper), coconut oil, bicarbonate sodium, high dose niacinamide. If you google "ultimate hair growth protocol" it has those in the guide as well as most of the anti-estros I listed which I've used and had good results but I don't take the Omega 3s and Iodine. Can be dangerous, high dose Iodine can fuck up your thyroid and fish oil is full of heavy metals.

ACV yeah a bit but don't take too much because it has yeast in itself. It's more about balancing your microbiota and those yeasts have anti-candida properties.

They were born a male, but through hard work and dedication (and severe mental issues) they transformed into the cute little girl they always wanted to be.
Also traps!=trannies.

Are you serious? It's a man dressing like a woman. Sometimes they get implants.

When I was young and my sister came home from school and took off her school dress I would put it on sometimes. Am I a trap?

I remember when redditors would lurk before posting

What is reddit? I came from ifunny

>these
>all from one website

It's not caused by testosterone, where did you get that idea? It's caused by DHT

Soy completely demolishes your testo levels

Did you even read any of the studies you posted? The argument is about soy lowering testosterone, which is not conclusive based on any study.

The first study has a sample size of 1 person. Not conclusive evidence in any way, shape, or form.

The majority of the studies you posted have nothing to do with testosterone. The last study you posted is the only one relevant to the discussion.

Are you really so brain dead that you can't actually READ the studies you post? Or did you just see someone else post them and are just parroting it?

And only if you're genetically predisposed to it.

>it's caused by DHT
Yeah, if your genetics program your hair follicle to fry.
Otherwise it does nothing.
Meanwhile, low testosterone or DHT causes hair thinning and baldness because you literally need both as sex hormones to grow body hair.
Even females need mild amounts to grow body hair and regulate their sex organs.

i keep saying it
proven
look it up FILTER PUBMED
higher testosterone levels in twins correlate with LOWER BALDNESS INCIDENCE
high test = thick hair
THINK OF CHAD

>Let me copy pasta studies that don't show shit and hope it goes unoticed because they'd have to read through all of them and waste time proving i'm a fucking liar

The last one does show soy decreasing test. The others are about soy giving you cancer.

Most "soyboys" do not actually eat soy in a large amount. That is just a meme.
They typically have the same diet that normal Americans eat, i.e. complete shit.

not even too much DHT

you have to be genetically prone to hair loss

reducing or increasing DHT levels in someone who isn't prone to hair loss won't do anything

>t. guy who's taken a shitton of dht steroids and has a ridiculously thick head of hair in his late 30s

>cherry-picking a specific articles that "prove" your point
Here's a meta-analysis of all studies on the topic, conclusion: soy protein doesn't fuck up your test levels.
sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0015028209009662
Full text: s3.amazonaws.com/academia.edu.documents/44126204/Clinical_studies_show_no_effects_of_soy_20160326-26058-1nxcyyj.pdf?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAIWOWYYGZ2Y53UL3A&Expires=1515707340&Signature=3fmvwKbY1bZdl4AsS4PTa6tv/6E=&response-content-disposition=inline; filename=Clinical_studies_show_no_effects_of_soy.pdf

You got meme'd son.

its a site for publishing loads of different studies, its an aggragator

>the reddit of science
No thanks.

the absolute state of soygoyim

The voice of ration will NOT be heard on this board

>pic
my sides

>ITT: coping /pol/tards that don't know anything in human hormonal system

The way the study is set up makes any information gathered from it worthless.

While I am not doubting a connection between creatine and DHT the actual numbers should be interpreted as "yeah it kinda a little bit increased dht in a way".

>ration

Actual actual scientific answer:
There is a diference between normal testosterone that makes you manly and the one that makes your beard grow.

Do your own research

>Not a single balding man has low estrogen

Low estrogen can actually cause terrible hair loss.
Way more than actual MPB.

What if it's not caused by DHT or estrogen directly?

What if it's actually caused by the microbial biome in the follicles and on the skin? Both DHT and E2 have incredibly strong effects on the skin.

High e2 leads to oily skin, and iirc high DHT does too.
What if the hormone imbalance feeds the bad bacteria that are actually damaging the follicles, and that is the reason shit like ketoconazole works?

Wait really? Why dont more women do this?

Forgive him he's a commie and hasn't eaten in weeks.

Male pattern baldness is inherited through the X chromosome. Baldness is genetic. This has been known for a long time.

>E2
what's e2

Only the last study is relevant and those guys were taking the equivalent of around 175 servings of soy

>all the fags who run 24/7 and look like anorexic retards have full heads of hair
Yeah just look at scooby

>he doesn't know about pubmed, a site for peer reviewed scientific articles to be posted
lmao your BA is showing brainlet
>tfw STEM masterrace

The copy pasta destroys the soyboy-posters

dunno, had shitty hait in my head since forever but thick hair everywhere else.
looks like genetic to me.

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>n=20

What did they mean by this?

lol it is not

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bigots

yes, and?

How come it took so long for Arnold to go bald? Look at Pumping Iron where he is 28, and had been training for well over a decade by that point. Not doubting you, I know a lot of people on test lose their hair, but why did he and most of the other bodybuilders in that film still have their hair? They must have been roiding like crazy on Test and Dbol

Have you guys seen how much protein tofu has?
I have no idea why it is the nu-male food.

uhhh because they were in a film....so they didn't want them to go blad...so they took things to not go bald because they were in film...are you this stupid?