Is this achievable natty? If so is this the natty limit?

Why doesn't he eat more look at his shitty chest

has he made good progess and for how long?

After half a year of coaching by Cavalière he still looks seriously ill.

woah... so this is the power of jeff cavaliere

looks like me after 3 months of lifting natty. i'd give it 3.5/10

>no pecs
>no traps
>no shoulders
>small over all.

this dude is such a faggot

post your body manlet

Who gives a shit? At least that guy is trying to better himself by getting in shape. What are (YOU) doing?

>instagram
>'epic beard'
>gummy bears

I wish I had the chance to train with Jeff for a year. Taking time out of his day to make a faggot into a man.

t. Jeff

Jeff is 100% bumming this guy.

He's doing great. Considering what he looked like when he started

this is possible at age 51 with a diet of only meat

zerocarbzen.com/resources/

Yes
No, not even close

the worst thing is u can tell is he is not on trt.

and bigger than 90% of you faggots on Veeky Forums

No

Humans are not able to attain any amount of muscles naturally without gear ya dingus

is that this doctor who lost his license because he was advising people to eat only meat?

No, this is unironically the natty limit

This is legit the natty limit for a person with above average genetics,of course.
Dude's been lifting consistently for about 8 years,natural.

>roiding for this

looks like franco colombu from profile

he lost it because he refused to perform unnecessary surgery.
And eating only meat is the most ideal diet by far.

How do I achieve caveman mode?

Starting to think the same desu

>based jeff will never take you under his wing

why even go on living familia

That guy literally doesn't eat. Poor Jeff, wasting his time trying to help him.

How can you tell? I'm like 95 percent sure he's on TRT, all of these oldfags are, not necessarily to get gains but to just stay happy.

In your dreams user

I think Omar Isuf might be a better example of natty limits.

This is correct.