Get exercise every day

>works out everyday
You fell for a meme alright. You need rest days too, you know. Depression is a symptom of over training.

Socialize yourself. Your muscle gains mean nothing if your aren't making social gains on top of them. These are the hardest gains to make for the average autist and that's why you make your muscle gains... to become an above-aberage autist. People are more likely to want to be around you now, user. Let them.

At least your not fat and depressed

>Sitting on machine with no will to continue
>Think about how its futile and no one will love me
>See myself on the mirror and realize that there is no machine to fix the face
>Mope about until Iphone on shuffle randomly plays One Day More from Les Miserables

>The time is now
The day is near
One day to a new beginning
Raise the flag of freedom high
Every man will be a king
There's a new world to be won
>Get full autism mode and continue working out for another hour

We must not give up!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>machines
No wonder you are sad.

2 is fine. I said lower not remove.

>he thinks doing at least a little bit of exercise every day means doing a full workout every day
You don't just have to sit on your ass on those rest days.

If you're really going hard in the gym rather then doing basic self maintenance workouts to keep yourself in shape, healthy and looking good...you're wrong
You kinda have to sit on your ass for the most part.
The kind of lifting pushed around here doesn't leave much in the tank for normal people.

Only because most of Veeky Forums is horrendously out of shape, thinks three sets is a brutal workload and would rather sit on their arse than accomplish anything.

You know what serious lifters preach that Veeky Forums doesn't do? active fucking recovery.

>no booze/drugs
shit man

dope. how old are you? you shouldn't exercise every day even if under 25

Serious fucking lifters are all fucking gear heads you imbecile.
Active recovery for an advanced fucking natural after a hard workout is a mini workout or just a long walk with some stretching.

The only people who can dick around with some kind of mega workout or some kind of active hobby while being a serious lifter are the young and new to lifting who have fuck all else going on and heavy using gearheads who have nothing else going on in life. Even then they'll hit the wall hard as fuck.

Everyone else might be able to play at it, but they will bonk hard as fuck. Especially people who're fairly advanced and 100% natty.

I cannot imagine how sad you life must be if coffee is one of your pleasures

Don't drink every day, occasionally drinking just to be drunk with friends is good, but don't make it a habit like every week/day a few beers

What if masturbating to anime girls is one of my pleasures?

One of many? Meh, try to remove it
One of few? Kys
Only one? Embrace it, go to japan

Kill yourself

GO TO A PSYCHIATRIST AND DON'T EVER EVER EVER FOLLOW Veeky Forums'S ADVICE ON HEALTH AGAIN

Like did you really think that heavy depression was that easy to get out of? Did you really think that millions of thousands of psychologists, psychiatrists, and their patients just WEREN'T TRYING HARD ENOUGH or some shit like that? You though these fucking anonymous blue text boxes had all the secrets? Fucking hell user, seriously

Yeh exercise and all that other stuff can make you feel better, do it if you want, but don't think you're going to turn into some unflappable ubermensch just because you fucking lift a few times a week and don't jerk off 5 times a day

Me too

Sup cookie cutter millenial crybaby

Nah bro. It does work. But it doesn't fix every issue in your life. For example:

> Do you have a shitty girlfriend?
> Do you have shitty parents?
> Do you have shitty friends?
> Do you even have any meaningful human connections?
> Do you have a shitty job?
> Do you have no job?
> Are you a useless human being?
> Did you have a terrible, abusive childhood?

Every person I've known who has been depressed has a "yes" in one of these. Don't get me wrong, I am certain that there are people who are depressed because something is wrong with them biologically. However, they are pretty rare.

Human interpretation for things are not equal. You might not consider something horrible while some others do. Even worse, people might hate something and not even be aware of it but act it out subconsciously.

>make sure stress is low to keep cortisol levels down

How do we accomplish this in our day and age?

I porn like twice a month and when I don't drink for a week+ I always feel way better. But you know what will make me feel EVEN BETTER when I feel that way? Get wasted.

t. Alcoholic

>Did you have a terrible, abusive childhood?

I wouldn't say "abusive" per se but it was not a good one.

1.Fix your diet
2.Fix your sleeping patters
3.Get some sun
4.Cut back on exercise, over exercise will lead to and even worsen depression
5.Replace one of your daily workouts with a long medtative mindful walk. Or just go for long walks while listening to nice tunes
6.Realize that exercise is supposed to make you fit enough to get out and do things. Your depression is telling you to go live.

I guess meditation
I wouldn't fucking know

There is no separation between your physical brain and your mind. When you say something is wrong emotionally, that is a reflection of the physical state of the neurons in your brain (and your entire body to some degree). I do understand what you're saying, some people get depressed because of psychological stress or trauma while some people just seem to get it basically out of nowhere, but it's not really correct to think that the apparent cause dictates the solution. Somebody who fell into chronic depression after getting abused as a child or whatever could benefit from antidepressants, someone who has nothing materially wrong in their life could benefit from therapy... It's not so simple

Full vacation from all things electronic, getting away from the city and loud cars and noise. Getting away from so many people and cars and loud sounds.
Cut out all stimulating foods and drink

Drink and eat modestly and rarely, sleep long and go for long walks in the great outdoors. Feeling the sunshine on your back.

Up at day, sleep at night.

Do this for a full week.

>> Do you have a shitty girlfriend?
I don't have any girlfriend, Chad.

>girlfriend
>friends
>human connections
DELET

>There is no separation between your physical brain and your mind
>implying

I certainly agree. Your own physical state and mind really works like a feedback loop with no clear chicken or egg. Anti depressants can work as a temporary measure, but they do not work in the long run is the underlying issues are there. Things are never simple, it is usually a mix of a bunch of things.

Meditation, keeping your exposure to the world news as minimal as possible.

Dualism is honestly just religion for people who think they're too smart for religion

>they do not work in the long run
Really? Never? How do you know?

Average length of time to stay on antidepressants is probably something like 2-5 years, people mostly come off them because they feel better rather than because they stop working (though that can happen too, in some cases)

>Dualism is honestly just religion for people who think they're too smart for religion
The same could be said for literally any philosophical position. Don't tell me you actually think there is an objective truth, family.

>Don't tell me you actually think there is an objective truth, family.
No, I don't really, I think the idea of objectivity is pretty silly begin with. It works in a practical day to day sense but it doesn't hold up as a concept, I mean, if we all perceive different things (which we do) what's objective? How can we objectively decide which version of things is the objective truth? It's silly

I found this book interesting, it explores some of the issues related to what we're talking about
goodreads.com/book/show/5895503-the-ego-tunnel

I meant to say "if we all perceive different things"

Oh I actually did say that. Oops.

Become a shut in.

That kind of thinking is nice up to a point. But it's abused by people who wish to make people believe and permit what they want. Mostly patently false or destructive things and thinking.

Fire is objectively hot.
Cold blooded murder is objectively bad
Etc etc.
There are objective truths that we have to believe or else we'll all devolve into groups of overly permissive jelly and islands of ideas adn people we can't really find fault with because to find fault is to believe in some form of objective truth.

So don't work for a week. Sounds realistic.

Looks like you perceived that differently too you dopey cunt

You don't get vacation days?

You can find mountains of evidence anti depressants not being effective or being just as effective as placebos. I am not disputing the fact they are a valid tool. For people who come off and feel better, do any of the studies show any of improvements to their lives that they have made? No

Anecdotally, all of the people I know who are on anti-depressants are still on them and are still miserable fucks. And they all have shitty things in their lives that they would rather not deal with and just swallow the pill.

Quick google search:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0087089/
webmd.com/depression/features/are-antidepressants-effective#2
scientificamerican.com/article/do-antidepressants-work/

Stop jerking off to that disgusting fetish porn maybe?

Get your fucking mind right, son.

True words here. Pills may make you fell better for sometime but they wont fix your problems which are the real cause of depression.

get better friends

me and my boys are dedicated none of us have drunk in 3 years

real question here, whats the reason behind leaving porn and fap ?

>>get 6-8 hours of sleep every night
>>Vit d and zinc is sufficient
>>no booze
Good until here, the rest is memes

if you are addicted like me it will help you... i tried it in November and after that i started fapping again, went to the same shitty place with depression and without motivation... now i am on second week of nofap and noporn and things are getting better

((()))

Oh yea goyim just ignore your problems and choke down Jew pills every day instead.

Prolonged exposure to porn actually has noted damage to your brain. This isn't even broscience. As far as nofap goes this is just my personal broscience but if I reduce fapping to maybe once a week, I feel more motivated and energized, which helps my mood. Cutting fapping completely isn't good for your health, since it's good to release once in a while. Twice a day? Too much. Once a week without porn? That's fine. Some say you have to do it once a week, or every 10 days, or every 12 days, so see what is more feasible for you.

go back to retarded """skeptical"""" rednecks

>This isn't even broscience
>doesn't provide any evidence

google.com/search?source=hp&ei=cxteWpSSMoqJ0gLzka34Dw&q=Porn damage on the brain&oq=Porn damage on the brain&gs_l=psy-ab.3...847.3598.0.3830.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.0.0....0.VA4FJEu9oAg
There ya go.

>10 Ways Porn Damages Your Brain
>New York Post
>Telegraph
>Yourbrainonporn.com
>Psychology Today
>nofap.com
>The Guardian
>fightthenewdrug.org
>How Porn Harms Us
>9 Things You Should Know About Pornography and the Brain
Cool """""""science""""""" bro. Is this where you get all your /pol/ """"evidence"" too?

>/pol/
>siding with anything The Guardian, Telegraph, and the New York Post says
This is how I know you're one of the people pushing the /pol/ boogeyman. You know absolutely nothing of /pol/ and just want to shout it to make some kind of non-existent argument.

>he actually thinks psychiatry is real and not just a scam to like the pockets of big pharma

>muh boogeyman
Yeah okay bro. Go on. Please tell me more.

I feel slightly depressed, unmotivated and agitated basically 24/7 if not at gym or having sex, which gives me an hour or so of feeling alive and functioning. Everything else is pretending.

>make sure stress is low to keep cortisol levels down

This is the only thing that really matters and it's a give or take if you can really do anything about it.

How is psychiatry a scam?

>don't drink coffee because I cared to try it out properly
>drink like once every two months because I almost have no friends
>never got into any kind of weird porn at all and don't watch it for more than 20 minutes a week
haha wow that was easy why do I still feel like shit

/pol/ will take a cropped screenshot of a fake article at face value, user.

I will admit that it can sometimes be useful, but nowadays
>every kid who shakes his leg is given adderal
>everyone who is a little bit sad is given SSRIs
>anyone feeling very sad is thrown in a mental hospital and forgotten about (actually happened to me when I decided to speak up about my depression in the past)

It is useful for extreme cases but nowadays shit is way over prescribed.

Depends entirely on the practices within certain countries. Some nations' doctors are just way more likely to prescribe drugs than other; just compare antibiotics usage between the US or Mexico and, say, northern Europe.

That's why you go see a psychologist, not a psychiatrist. Psychiatrist go to med school so they can give you drugs. Psychologists actually work with patients and try to find the root of your problem. However neither will work if you're not ready to make a legit change; "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink"

check your test levels before you fall for the antidepressant meme

Psychiatrist go to med school so that they get the higher paying job

Farting is my antidrug.
It is a proven fact that hydrogen sulfide (that rotten egg smell found not only in rotten eggs but farts) is a healthy antidepressant nd memory booster.
So make sure to add some fiber to your protein shakes and let 'er rip right there in the gym. But seriously H2S is really good for you. Check it out:
youtube.com/watch?v=B-bk1qugYmo

>H2S is really good for you
It's actually the exact opposite.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_sulfide#Toxicity

4 SCOOPS C'MON

Could I use this to convince hot straight guys to fart on my face?

Yo mero

I was getting brain zaps after coming off Prozac, with the guidance of my doctor. Talking with a friend who had ECT he said that exactly how it feels after getting ECT. Very scary.

Me.

When was the last time you took a day off? A week off?

Taking steroids fixed my depression. I can feel the testosterone coursing through my veins and I've never felt more powerful and confident. I feel like a fucking beast with a ten inch dick that causes earthquakes every time I move. Years of antidepressants didn't do shit for me, but a few needles in the ass made me into a human god.

Take a vacation. Or drive somewhere and then stay in a hotel and sleep for a week and do a little sight seeing

Some people are affected by acute withdrawal syndrome from alcohol that can last several weeks at a time. Stay away from alcohol for like a year. See how u feel

I haven't touched alcohol in my entire life because I'm a shut-in and don't go to dudebro parties and I still feel like shit

Do couch to 5k. I've been on multiple anti-depressants and anti-psychotics and they fucked my brain up severely. I spent a year rebuilding what I lost because of the medications, but I still experienced depressive episodes which would last for months if I allowed it. The one thing that has helped is cardio - specifically running/jogging. Jump rope is good too. Strength training actually triggers mood fluctuations in me. I still see a psychologist and despite my horrible experience with medications she tells me they may be necessary. Most of these "mental health professionals" are a serious threat to your general wellbeing. I have all of the hallmarks of a fucked up psyche and right now I'm functioning better in my life than I ever have, no thanks to any kind of pill or psychotherapy. If anything, those people will make you doubt yourself even more. Get the fuck off of Veeky Forums too. Any kind of online cesspool of degeneracy is not helping you.

In addition, establish a routine. Get out of your house and head and speak to as many people in real life as possible. Do things that force you to be active throughout the day. If you're working out an hour daily and are sedentary for the other 23 hours, it's over.

if you have no self respect to begin with, working out wont help you
0 times 0 is still 0

You serious? We, in the first world, live in a bubble of pillows and comfort. The reason people stress about everything is because they are -mentally ill-. Being pathologically neurotic all the time is not natural. Instead of fixing themselves though, the common solution to take pills to dull the pain they put in themselves. Most people are masochists fueled by their own insecurity.

Kek. I'm not the user you replied to but
>fire is objectively hot
Not on the sun
>cold blooded murder is objectively bad
As bad as chopping down a tree (if you ignore pragmatism, which is NOT a claim of objectivity)
>There are objective truths that we have to believe or else we'll do X and that's bad!
Another case where you confuse our pragmatic society for some sort of objective truth. Human "reason" is flawed and incomplete and leaves us with a misunderstanding of our own realm of existence. In this reality, there is no subject and object; Only object. And because of that, an objective truth cannot be derived from the non-reality that is the subject (our mind/ perspective/ faculty for observation)

Eat cleaner

Take EPA capsules you fucks.

what is this, what does it do, and how has it worked for you? I want to hear your answer not one from google