Need Advice

When you're choking a girl, you guys just sorta squeeze the carotid artery a little, right? Or do you actually constrict airflow by squeezing the throat?

t. absolute pussy who won't go beyond hair pulling

firmly grasp around the throat

You test it out.
Just put your hand around her throat and don't squeeze, just let her feel it. It see seems to enjoy it just put a little pressure. You don't actually want to "choke" her.

user, I was you.

Just let it go, that's all I got.

I'll assume you're not a dumbass and know what kind of shit is acceptable in that situation. Memes aside, just let yourself be an alpha.

Squeeze along the sides, not on the trachea.
There should be pressure on the trachea so it doesn't feel like you out her neck in a vice but it's not the main focus

As a fellow sweetheart, don't bother. I had a girl like that for a while, and no matter how long I was with her, I just never got into it. Every sexual encounter eventually just turned into a performance on my part, and it made me feel extremely disconnected from the relationship.

Think user, why else would she be telling a fucking co-worker this??

Also you should of made an quick joke by saying "lets do it" or something to that matter.

Jus puhnced her in the butt and she will think :wow, stronk man:

>the girl im with
never gonna make it

>Every sexual encounter eventually just turned into a performance on my part, and it made me feel extremely disconnected from the relationship.
>Every sexual encounter eventually just turned into a performance on my part

dingdingdingdingdingding this shit will melt your brain in a long term relationship

Just put her in a head lock and choke her out until she passes out.

It's not a "treat her like garbage" mindset, but a "I find you so desirable sexually that I'm going to enthusiastically use you to please myself." The key thing is desire - you're so into her that you can't help but do all the nasty things to her that youve always wanted to do. This doesn't mean you treat her less than human, but you want to use her body as a tool to get you off.

>Whenever I see a hot chick all I can think about is pulling her hair from behind in doggy while gripping firmly around her neck and whispering how good a girl she is.
>If you do that in bed, any girl will fall in love.

the virginity emanating from this post

>there are actually insecure guys ITT who will follow this autistic PUA redpill garbage

Honestly, I used to think like this too. It takes some practice, but what I did was first get over the fact that I'm with someone I'm very attracted to. If there's lots of chemistry, I used to try and be respectful and careful. Remember that you're with another person that's made mistakes, done fucked up things, and is just another shmuck like you - she's normal. Don't mentally place her on a pedastel.

Next, I'd just flow freely and lead by doing whatever I wanted to do most at that moment. You want her to get down on her knees? Order her, don't ask her. You really want this, and if you show initiative and you're commanding it, she'll dig it, trust me. Do you want to pick her up and throw her onto the bed, then climb on top of her? Go for it, don't hesitate, but don't be wishy washy and change your mind. Pick something, do it.

This being said, don't make I completely about you. Make sure she gets stimulated, get her off preferably before you. If she doesn't finish its not the end of the world, but you need to keep her in mind.

Finally, my last piece of advice is that not all women like it this way. Some women don't like being ordered to do things, some women want more communication. Remember to gauge how she's reacting.

Good luck, if a formerly clueless nerd like me can do it, you for sure can too.

Guys is it weird that I get really turned on when I think about slapping a girl across the face when fucking her? Virgin btw

>if a formerly clueless nerd like me can do it

>nerd had to follow PUA redpill shit and now LARP about what a dominating sex god he is

why am i not surprised lmfao

I say be yourself then as someone who used to try to be someone I wasn't and had a similar experience as you. When I started owning who I was and being confident in myself girls were far more attracted to me then when I did things that I thought they wanted.

grill here, domination isn't virgin posturing, I want a man to fight me in bed and make me submit.

no girl who goes on Veeky Forums is a "normie" so your advice is basically worthless

you want a roastie or a tight, little memelord? get fucked, bucko

roasties are normies. theyll tell you what a normal girl actually wants. Veeky Forums girls are basically nerd incel boys. theyre not normal girls, in a bad way. there is no point getting advice on girls from a girl on Veeky Forums

This is the truth, OP. You're going for a circulation choke not a windpipe choke.

I know what normies are, idiot, and I have normie female friends; I walk among them, gossip. my point remains valid.

This. Blood choke is always the safest route, plus it can be fun when you're on top, banging.

t. domme

This. Apply pressure on the jugular and avoid the trachea so she gets a bit lightheaded from the cutoff in circulation but is still able to breathe

Red flag. Leave while you have the chance.

>mother
>coworker

Two red flags. Do not pursue her.

>Fucking the chick
>PUA

>Think user, why else would she be telling a fucking co-worker this??

I don't know, that's why I asking you all. We were about to leave and making small talk about her ex. He called her at work about some bs just to harass like usual. Then she randomly comments how he called her while he was "doing the deed" a couple of times as a way to spite her. That didn't tip me off that she may have been trying to turn up the heat, it was only when she mentioned that she could "hear the girl moaning" and that she thought "maybe she should return the favor". Those last 2 comments I felt were unnecessary to get her point across and came across as suggestive.

What should I do?

I've had someone tell me once that if a woman talks about sex with you when you're alone with her, she wants to fuck you. So far it has held true. I've had 2 girls do this to me, pursued both of them and they both ended up fucking me. Do with this information as you please.

I get it dude, it's difficult because you're coworkers, so if you make a move and you were wrong, it could be devastating. I feel like those comments are not really enough. Next time though, if something sexual comes up again, play along. All you have to do is keep the conversation moving. Don't respond in an overly sexual way, just keep her talking about it. Don't inject yourself into it like this retard said . It'S too early for that. In that specific case, you could have said something like "Haha, you should. Have you ever done something crazy like that?" or "Wow, that's kind of pathetic. You really must have done a number on him." See if she reveals more and take it from there. If she acts naughty and start telling you sex secrets, just act interested. "Really? Wow, that is pretty hot". If you can really get her talking about sex, that's basically a green light to ask to hang out.

Play violent video games.

what do you mean? are you saying the girl is supposed to be the dominant one?

if you read

and all you got from it was

>"the girl is supposed to be the dominant one"

then you're baiting or just retarded

shit in this day and age get ready to go to prison for lightly spanking that ass

well what am i supposed to get from it? we're talking about sex and how to be dominant in bed. that person said don't bother. relationships and sex can go bad for many reasons but in relevance to the thread whats the alternative

Bitch, please

just B.E. yourself

this is at least partly the answer

but the original post was basically saying, if you have to act excessively extreme and unnatural like a porno every single time you have sex then it will wear on you over years in a relationship

Sometimes i choke on the side sometimes i choke in the middle, depends how you feel. Now if you can understand the concept behind that bit of information you'll understand how to naturally dominate a chick.

OP here. Thanks for the responses and good advice. This is so accurate and 100% what my problem is. It’s hard to wrap my brain around being rough and violent in bed with a girl I really like even though I know she wants it.

>girl did this to me
>but was talking about a guy she fucked literally 12 hours before
I have never had a 'too soon' moment in my life like that one. Instant turn off.

Seconding this In the same way you make yourself happy by doing certain things you can make yourself mad by thinking/doing certain things too. Maybe think about things that piss you off about her and feel like you need to punish her.

Just dont say what they are during sex, saying 'Stop leaving the milk out of the fridge' wont be good sexy talk.

Yeah, don't visit /r9k/ that often and actually talk to girls.

For sure but at the same time, so many girls, if not all of them, like things rough from time to time. Very few only want slow, sensual sex all the time, that's boring. I'm trying to nip this in the bud now so I can turn off my natural nice guy instincts in the bedroom when she wants to get dirty.

That’s not a red flag at all. Girls are hardwired to enjoy being dominated in bed. During sex is when our most primal instincts kick in. Girls like a guy that’s forceful and you using them to get yourself off is hot to them.

Girl here confirming that this is the ideal. Please say good girl. Make her earn it tho

>tfw had great sex life with ex fiance
>sex almost every night/every other night for 7 years
>could alternate between passionate love making and rough as fuck nasty shit
>she left
>now sex has lost all meaning because connection was so intense with her
>don't even give a shit anymore
>matched with pic related and can't even muster the desire to try and go on a date
Feelsbad

Sorry to hear that, user. Why did the relationship fall apart?

OP here. I'll take you at your word that you're really a girl. Any advice on how I can start being more dominant? We both love doggy style so I figure I can start with some hair pulling and go from there.

tbqhwym8 she seems ded insid

Long story short, I lost my job I was using to support both of us in NYC, couldn't give her my undivided attention because I was trying to find a way to survive while she was finishing up school, she made a Twitter and started sexting with dudes on there, I find out and give her ultimatum, she chooses random dicks.

OP I was sleeping with a girl for a while and was in the same exact situation. Just stop focusing on pleasing her so much. You don't have to kick her teeth in, just be firm and controlling. If there is something you want her to do, make her do it. Just act that you are in control in the bedroom because you are.

If it doesn't cone naturally to you don't bother trying. I had an ex by go through my browser history, see the bdsm poem I was watching, then he tried to emulate it during sex. Possibly one of the worst things that guy did because 1. Dude went through my browser history behind my back and 2. He was a little passive bitch and him trying to emulate a dom during sex was weird, creepy, pathetic, and a huge turn off. You're either a dom or youre not, you can't force it

Pic relayed supposed to be enticing or something? Do you have yellow fever or something? Or just easily impressed in general?

It has to be a blood choke to feel good
Air choke will just get her to panic and cough
It's basically the same as erotic asphyxiation,restrict SOME,not all blood flow to the brain to get this euphoric feeling of light headedness

I know, we have something in common.

You're right but I'm not against the idea of a little choking or hair pulling. I just don't know what the fuck I'm doing. Should I tell her this so she can train me a bit? I'm sick of being a boring pussy nice guy when it comes to sex.

This x100. So many guys wrongly assume dominating means treating her like trash, but that is NOT what dominating is about. Ive had ex bfs try to be the asshole dom and it doesn't work, and it's a huge turn off

>Should I tell her this so she can train me a bit?

Maybe her bull should train you.

By that logic the same could be said for all advice given by males as well; congrats you've nullified Veeky Forums

my gf is like this
girls like you are a treasure

Don’t be an asshole shitposter. I’m genuinely asking for advice here.

solid advice, I was like OP - girlfriend was into rough stuff and I wasn't because it seemed demeaning but I realised it didn't have to be

Not being against it is not the same thing as reveling in the way it makes you feel.
>have her train me
It sounds more like you're a submissive, please just be honest with her and yourself- save yourself the time on a relationship doomed to fail. Hell maybe you should go find a female dom, it sounds like you honestly might enjoy it (seriously)

The Ting goes...

You have a point but I also have a foot fetish and this is the first girl I’ve been with that’s been open to that stuff. I just want to return the favor and do what she likes as well.

Unironically i would advise you to increase your cardio so your hormones can actually tell you what to do rather than your girlfriend.

Why would she know what she wants?

I meant more that I want her to at least tell me how and how hard she likes to be choked and have her hair pulled. I just need a bit of a push.

what app is that?

>tight, little memelord
I'm not gonna lie. It moved.

>Why would she know what she wants?

Don't listen to this absolute retard. Communication during sex is key, especially within a BDSM context. I'm sure I'll get a lot of flack for this, but if she's really into this shit, you need to grill her and ask questions and gather as much information as you can, particularly if she wants "stop" and "no" to mean those things, and if not, what would be a serious indicator. For my sub, we do the classic red light/yellow light/green light structure, and when he can't speak, two to three taps on either me or something that makes noise indicates a need to stop.

A lot of people assume communication = boring and clinical. But talk is important, and if you make it extended dirty talk, and push her and rake her through her embarrassing desires as you get into her head and get what she wants out in the open, her pussy will be flowing, senpai.

What said. Blood choke is painless when done properly and is more on the sides of the neck (not directly on the left or right, more like across the arteries). An air/wind choke is across the trachea and is not pleasant at all. It's painful and can lead to someone coughing/gagging, and not in an enjoyable manner. Plus, if you put enough force on the trachea, you could potentially collapse it, meaning you have to give her a tracheotomy for her to breathe if you do collapse it.

Thanks, user. This is really helpful.

Why did he go through your browser history

Jesus dude. Don't do that.

Just work your way into it. She'll stop you if it's too much. Start with light choking, not even, just your hand grasping her neck as you fuck her. Read her reaction. She'll let you know. If she likes it, go a little harder, just a bit of pressure. The first time you do it, don't go all out, unless she specifically asks you to choke her harder as you're doing it or if you can tell she's really into it.

Then, once you're finished. Casually bring it up while you're cuddling. Go something like : Hey, when I was choking you, did you like that? I felt like I could go harder but I didn't want to overdo it. Then she'll tell you how she likes it. That way you're being respectful, but at the same time you're introducing it, so you retain your role as the dominant one.

Never talk talk about that stuff with a woman before you have sex unless she brings it up. It'll make you look like an insecure pansy. When you want to introduce something into the bedroom, you do a very tame version of it, then you discuss it after. The only acceptable moment to talk about this stuff is when you're cuddling after sex, after you've taken care of business and made her cum. That's when she'll be most receptive and honest. If it's something more freaky, you bring it up subtly when you're both in that post-climax zone and see how she responds to it.

In your specific case though, it sounds like she literally told you she likes being choked, so fucking choke her. Start with light pressure and go from there. Read her reaction. If it's to much, she'll stop you.

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what this user said
pulling hair, spanking, choking kinda comes naturally to me

i just have to grab my girl by the throat when no one is looking, and she WILL get horny almost instantly

Sure thing senpai. Do you have any other questions? I'm fairly experienced with open and ethical (and hot) BDSM at this point, so if you need insight into anything else, just ask. Whatever you do, though, don't let her goblin your gains. Gotta be fit to dish out those hits, gotta be swole to take her control.

Honestly it’s really just a mental block that I need to get over. My natural instinct is to be sweet and gentle with a girl I like. That’s fine sometimes but it’s boring and I realize that. I need to make myself realize it’s okay to get dirty and aggressive in bed, you know?

>Mfw do all those things
>Mfw GF loves it
>Mfw so focused on not cumming and lasting long i cant dirty talk
>Mfw she loves dirty talk
>Mfw it just ammounts to 5 awkward out of breath sentences scattered around randomly
>"Fuck"
>"You like that dont you"
>"Good girl"
>"You like being my little whore?"
What the fuck do i do to improve dirty talk

I completely get you. Eventually, however, when you get good with being dirty and aggressive, you can be dirty and aggressive /while/ being sweet and gentle at the same time. That's the real good shit. Versatility is key.

Good luck m8. I'm rooting for you.