Does masturbation actually reduce testosterone?

does masturbation actually reduce testosterone?

i understand the nofap fad from a mental gains perspective, but does fapping & porn actually have any adverse affect on testosterone?

thx

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nope, it's just meme horse shit that limp dick losers shill as a way to cope with their impotent rage

yeah, slightly. Best benefits are day 5-7 of nofap. After that test stabalizes and any benefits are gone. So best to fap 1x a week on a non gym day. Also *most* find it better to not fap right before the gym, as it will reduce your performance.

Occasional fap isn't terrible, but it'll take away your drive to work out or fuck girls. Stay away from porn tho. Seeing "super sex" will ruin your perception of real sex and you won't get turned on

sometimes i fap 3 times a day and work out like a madman
lowtest soyboys out

Without a doubt it does. Try 1 month of nofap, and no porn so your brain stops being addicted and see the results for yourself. Don't let some faggot who wacks 3 times a day tell you anything different.

Things will change once you reach ~22 years old.

It's mental conditioning. Why strive to achieve anything and get a nice wife when you can watch some whore get railed by Tyrone.

It exists to domesticate you.

Even without porn, jerking off is relieving stress and anger that would otherwise build up inside and make you more alpha.

Who really cares about the biological side of it.

Do you feel good and accomplished when you've just finished busting a nut to Lela Star being sucked by some guy with a cock that's two inches longer than yours?

>Wanting stress and anger
I think we operate on some fundamentally different assumptions about life.

Yeah

Yes. When you orgasm you release Prolactin and that will slightly decrease you test.
Also you are losing zinc as you ejaculate, if you don't supplement you will get somewhat deficient from often fapping.

I don't nofap for gains

I nofap for better orgasms.

Yeah but not if you eat it. That's why whenever I do decide to fap I eat it, that way I won't be losing the vitamins and minerals plus proteins & creatine.
>inb4 thats gay
Letting the fap gains goblin steal your gains is gayer.

This guy understands the world

No
>chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2013/07/no-fap-more-like-no-fucking-way.html?zx=8b8b34b0eaf38c62
>chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are.html
>chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are_07.html
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masturbation#Health_effects
>europeanurology.com/article/S0302-2838(16)00377-8/abstract/ejaculation-frequency-and-risk-of-prostate-cancer-updated-results-with-an-additional-decade-of-follow-up
>webmd.com/prostate-cancer/news/20040406/frequent-ejaculation-prostate
>urology.jhu.edu/newsletter/prostate_cancer712.php
>frequenturinationinmenexplained.com/ejaculation-and-prostate-cancer/
>m.joe.endocrinology-journals.org/content/52/1/51.short
>answers.webmd.com/answers/5004889/what-nutrients-do-you-lose-when-ejaculating-or-masterbating-do-you-lose-testerone-
>healthtap.com/user_questions/1294935-how-long-does-your-body-take-to-replace-the-nutrients-lost-by-masturbation

Who is this plum-stealing whore

i masturbate more than once a day on average and i grew to have a frame of an nfl linebacker without lifting

Idk bro. Not the guy you wrote to but I'm 27 and can jerk it twice or thrice on a gym day and still kick ass. Also can still get hard with my wife same day. I'm not even high test, just not a bitch.

The fact is, overloading your brain with whores and wanking like a slave is a fad, not self control.

shut the fuck up you actual soyboy, men have been jerking off to images of pretty ladies for years, and before that they were jerking off to rocks that look like tits... it's called being a functional & sexual man

the only argument that could bare weight in this debate would be that porn consumption can lead to extreme or otherwise abnormal fetishes, which is fair... but just because a few people go off the deep-end doesn't mean you can project your lack of awareness and testosterone unto everyone else

faggot

its a placebo mostly but it still works for me
i have a wank once a week on my rest day

nah hes right, youre acting as a slave to your passions and being guided by pathos

>damn this guy actually makes sense, i better type some random shit and hope it sticks
you're dumb as fuck

>using reason of physical desire is random

of course a massman like yourself couldn't see that no fap is an ontological exercise in self disciplin

Big difference between getting off to a nude woman in a painting and being able to watch 10/10 Ukrainian whores get railed in 1080p.

Both are bad though.

((()))

I wished to have Slater's body while my sister wished to have Zack's meaty white blonde cock deep in her anal cavity. Oh the dreams of the youth.

yes porn no fap is the real deal

people who preform nofap successfully have low libido
>inb4 no i don't
yeah you do, stop lying on the internet you smallfag, just hop on the HRT and be done with it

>tfw get girl to try super submissive porn shit
>tfw you've never came so hard
>tfw you have to wipe cum off her crying face

what's up my fellow high libido poster

I don't even use porn that much and I am constantly so fucking horny.

Fapstronauts will be running the planet in another 20 years. The world is literally stuck in the porn matrix and they will fight to defend their mental slavery.

It's gotten to the point where you can point out the addicts in public, their hunchbacks, their anxiety around women, their massive right arm lol

It WILL catch up to you faggot. Trust me. Half marathon runner had amazing cardio, and porn still killed me dick. Fapped 7 times a day once man, wtf

Idk, I'm on TRT

Photos by David Dubnitskiy, he goes around Ukraine and takes mildly slutty pictures of the girls around there

slavorum.org/ukrainian-photographer-david-dubnitskiy-shows-the-beauty-of-women-in-vibrant-photoshoots/

>literally fapped at least once a day, usually 3 or 4 times
>edge for hours every time
>time comes to lose virginity
>terrified of how much erectile dysfunction I will have after years of porn
>get hard straight away before she even gets naked
>fuck for about an hour, with rests
>can't cum

JUST

Im on Day 14 of nofap and I feel more productive and confident. But my dick hasnt moved at all. No erections. No wet dreams. Nothing. Is it broken from all the porn/fapping before

14 days is entry level it takes a few weeks at least, have patience friend

Thanks bud I will keep on. Its actually easy right now since Im not horny at all

If their test is that low, wouldn't it just be impotent irritation?

This image is reminding me of when I was like eight or nine attempting to jack off to the picture of that dog pulling down the girls swimsuit on the sunscreen bottle.

do you get morning wood? if that doesn't happen by day 30 you might wanna get to the doctor if you're still fairly young

You're missing the point. That stress and anger is burnt up in the gym instead of out your pee hole.

This desu. Going from 1 time every day to 1 time every 5-7 days makes your cummy so fucking good.

>that mulberry tree has rust
Girl is top notch goal though lads

i always feel like going to the gym after fapping

>Stay away from porn tho. Seeing "super sex" will ruin your perception of real sex and you won't get turned on

what if the only porn is watch is girls masturbating and watching a guy fuck a girl keeps me soft as fuck

12 days in, fucked once and nutted on her asshole. not feeling much different this far in, but i'll try going the whole semester. i think looking at porn messed up your face or eyes, and thus people look at your diffrerently

haven't read the thread, not going to read replies this is the correct answer

no it doesn't OVER MASTURBATION does, and its not because you keep cumming its because the body gets exhausted and this exhaustion inhibits test production

healthy masturbation INCREASES test

>Fapstronauts will be running the planet in another 20 years
>literally stuck in the porn matrix

kek. Nofap is slowly becoming MGTOW levels of delusional. Good lord just fap once or twice a week, don't watch porn and get some damn hobbies. Quit acting so high and mighty when the solution is simple

did no fap for a month but i was horny 100% of the time.

you know what?

...good for you.

I'm 36 and i still fap 2-4 times a day. Sorry about your low test.

Honestly, I'm just doing it to regain sensitivity on my cock. Because when I lost my virginity I felt almost nothing, and was just pounding for almost 2 hours before I just got bored and lost my erection.

I've stopped watching video porn it's just not arousing to me anymore, I mean I get hard and can easily come to it but it's just seems too take to enjoy, it's so much easier to fap to the millions of pictures of sexy girls. And as much as it's addicting and I'm trying to stop it Audioporn is the only other form I get fap to.

Edit: too fake* to enjoy

Its a great club isnt it

3 times a day, every day for years, still get hard as a rock around girls

This, I used to fuck and make vids with a girl who was an amateur pornstar, and she could ride my dick blunt twice a day without a second thought.

After we broke up (I had to move for work, she couldn't leave family) every girl I've had since her has been so disappointing. Probably because I tend to settle when I can't find anyone.

>tfw used to have a severe sex addiction, paying thousands a month at clubs and on prostitutes because of my fine tuning to fuck multiple times a day
I literally had to buy an expensive pocket pussy just to get by, but it's saving me thousands a year in the long run.

hey dude ,this happened to me too. I saw it as a positive, we fucked for like 2 hours and i couldnt cum. But she kept having orgasm after orgasm. Then, she WANTED me to cum. So we fucked for like 30 more minutes and then i finally shot sea men inti her eyeballs and it felt amazing. Then the next day she told evrryone at work im crzy good at sex because of how long i last. Just keep fucking, youll cum eventually bro! And, you get to make the grill or dude ur fucking feel amazing and want more the next day (we fuked thr next mornin)

Lasted 117 days. Felt clean and I could fucking think and had more energy. I felt bolder.

haha kido, fear the day you have to enter the real world, you're going to crumble

Minge

>does masturbation actually reduce testosterone?

YES

>tfw you have above average test but just don't care for vanilla sex and cuddling once every three days
I feel defective every time I read these threads.
I've tried
>"Smashing every day, twice a day, and treat her like a submissive whore to be degraded bro"
And I just don't like it. I don't fantasies about it. And yet without fail if I don't act like that, some girls will just ghost you asap.
Guess I should just start buying soy lent now...

really, girls ghost you if you dont treat them like degraded whores?

Look bro, it's like most other things. Find a middle path that works for you. Porn is terrible for your soul and mental health, but jerking off once a day, after the gym, seems reasonable enough. No need to torture yourself and go mad not fapping, and likewise no need to fap 5 times a day.

This, I was climbing up the walls. It drove me crazy. Not worth it

Ejaculation (masturbation OR sex) causes a 2-3 week long prolactin spike. Prolactin lowers testosterone.

Topkek

im such an autistic permavirgin that i get random boners and also get that little tingle in my pantaloons and sometimes a half chub just from touching a girl or making her laugh or something similar

ive tried both things, going full no-fap, or going full twice a day fapper, nothing changes it. i am doomed fellas

>Porn is terrible for your soul and mental health
but is asmr/suggestive photos considered porn?

if i jerk off to some stimuli i'll still get into haven, right?

I said SOME, which still blows my mind.

popping random boners and getting hard around girls actually means you have high-test and is desirable... maybe you should try to fix the other shit that's holding you back d aw g

i really dont think thats right, getting random boners is like what a teenager gets during puberty (like i get a boner right before getting off at my subway stop, the same place every fucking day, blank mind, sitting in an empty car) and getting stimulated from merely touching a girl is complete autism

literally the definition of high testosterone in a sexual sense

>2018
>trusting your own works to save you

Jesus loves you bro. Porn just hurts you, and you're better than that. It's not a salvation issue, we're all condemned by our lust even if we abstain from porn. God's grace is only given freely.

then at the same time
>emaciated holocaust mode twink with very little body and facial hair

literally only teens and weird adults practice the whole nofap noporn bs. Everyone living normal lives away from Veeky Forums don't know what the fuck all of this shit is

This
Is what happened to me. I can't enjoy sex with a real woman anymore, can't even cum because my penis is mutilated with a constant jerking.

>letting stupid fads determine what you do with your body

Beta as fuck. Fap or don't fap, view porn or don't, lift or don't lift, but do it for YOU and what you want to be, not because faggots on the Internet thinkbit's a good or bad idea.

not just Veeky Forums, reddit too

so yeah basically,even though literally everyone watches porn, even the chaddest of chads, the normiest of normie, the averagest of average guy and girl all do, it's only autistic internet sites where you have people thinking that not masturbating gives you super powerrs

i hate overly commercial porn for exactly this reason.Super sex turns me off,which is why i prefer amateur/realistic scenes.

>egocentric self-sufficient ignorance : the post

>super sex
What's your take on vanilla hentai?

raypeatforum.com/community/threads/masturbation-downregulates-certain-androgenic-receptors-in-the-brain-and-upregulates-certain-estro.6998/

That image is heaven. This is what heaven looks like.

I have a somewhat different question. What is better (or least worst) for gains: sleeping 6 hours or fucking 1 hour and sleeping 5 hours?

still fuck up your brain
porn isn't sex, porn ruins your brain's reward system, no matter how vanilla it is

>making outlandish statements with no source and expecting others to believe him
brainlet

but is asmr/suggestive photos considered porn?

I wonder that too. I mean, if anything that gets you hard is bad for you, you'd have to become a literal hermit

Any sources of actual greats through the history of them sitting on their beds/chairs and jacking themselves off, busting nuts all over their rooms?

I don't think there are but if you have some please provide.

Masturbation is a newer invention, in the past it used to be huge taboo.

this has literaly happened to me and it drives me mental
I can't even cum with a real woman anymore
I get hard then basically go until they cum then stop since I'm just not aroused enough

I did no porn and no fap for 5 days last week but than I masturbated multiple times on saturday and sunday. It was a big mistake because I felt great on no fap/porn. I woke up every morning full of energy and not even a little bit groggy. I even did Lots of stuff that I was too lazy to do before no fap/porn.
Today is day 1 of another attempt and I'll try to not fap till next saturday and imI'll only cum once. Cumming like 5 times in 2 Days just completely destroys my energy/motivation

I should add that I've spend at least 3-4h with edging to porn a day, prior to no fap

>Broke up with girlfriend a few weeks ago
>Sit down to read book can't stop thinking about girls I'm trying to get down to fuck
>Workout, still mentally not there thinking about girls
>Go to work... girls
>Masturbate
>Go on with my life normally while being able to actually focus on anything besides ASS

i dont get why are you trying this hard just for the feeling you made some guys fapping
are you this faggot?
do you want to suck my dick as well?

...

masturbation increases testosterone when done normally

yes goys, do more nofap