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How do you guys deal with jealously of lifters that are more obnoxious and better than you at lifting ?
Or that also make lifting look gay and uncool?
James Long
I don't get jealous of other lifters, I just mad at myself for being worse than them
sounds anime but it's true
Connor Johnson
If you aren't the biggest guy in the room, find another room.
If you are the biggest guy in the room, make that room your gym.
Matthew Clark
deliuge is that really you
Isaiah Morris
Except for Overhead Squats what else can I do to improve my Snatch stabillity? I mainly struggle with the upper body. Any cues that might help or any muscles that need to be strengthened?
Jackson Foster
So are you not supposed to externally rotate the scapula in the jerk?
Ethan Reed
snatch balance!
Zachary Young
I think you are supposed to externally rotate on the power jerk and internally rotate on the split jerk
Ethan Powell
So this is why my jerks feel like shit
Brody Sullivan
good morning lads
Kevin Ross
Good morning jap poster
Josiah Sanchez
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Jaxon Bailey
uhhh why? Why exactly wouldn't you internally rotate for all jerks?
Mason Long
Well, I think it is because when you are power/ squat jerking you have to lean forward, because of this the weight is mostly supported by your upper back like when you are snatching instead of your delts/ core like when OHPressing
William Gray
Just keep something in the back of your mind telling you (with absolute confidence) that you're better than this other person at many other skills, and that weightlifting is the ONLY thing they've got on you.
Nathaniel Sanders
Do you guys switch the leg that comes front in the jerk?
Hahahaa
Colton Nelson
I think you've got that backwards
Christian Ward
no. people who owl for a hobby or for competition stick with one leg for jerk, unless they get injured, then they switch to stick with either the other leg or more likely to power/squat jerk. there are a a lot of athletic programs which use use owls or variants. a few of them use jerks, but mostly power jerks. a few of those which use jerks, use split jerks, and a few of those alternate which leg is used. other than that, nobody else does.
Grayson Morris
Thats the most fuck shit retarded thing you can do for your jerk
Find out which leg is better suited as the lead one
And fucking stick with it
Owen Jackson
Okay, I was just thinking about muscle imbalances but guess it's not a thing. I'll tick with the right leg then.
Cooper Lee
assuming you developed muscle imbalances then you could correct them with lunges and other unilateral work as accessories lunges are a part of many programs like lsus 10-5-3 imbalances aren't terribly likely however as the vast majority of wl training is bilateral; cleans, snatches, pulls, squats, presses, and even much of the jerk volume is power, even in split jerkers, as power allows a lighter stimulus and trains bar position
Jeremiah Bell
>imbalances aren't terribly likely m8 im p sure every wler has loads of horrible imbalances
Ethan Sanders
lol you're a funny guy all competitive athletes are fucked up, in every sport, because of the demands of competition but joe blow, lifting in his garage 3-5x a week, or going to whatever gym for training, with his sinclair in or below the 200s, isn't gonna get any fucking imbalances worth noting from following a balanced training program, for reasons noted in my post, and also as noted, there are ways to address the potential, and also as noted, many programs use those ways not to mention that the average hobbyist wler has far fewer imbalances than the average sit-on-asser
Jaxson Ward
>set up my powerclean weight >big guy comes in and just snatch it Everytime
Gavin Walker
what do you mean I'm funny?
James Russell
m8
Elijah Diaz
which is better doing only cleans, snatches and squats like bulgarians or plenty of partial main lifts and other accessories + BB stuff
Luis Bell
For 99% of lifters it's "plenty of partial main lifts and other accessories + BB stuff"
Carson Thomas
Do both. >lower intensity, higher volume, lots of variations block >higher intensity, lower volume, high specificity block
Jacob Jones
That being said, when is the time right for a Bulgarian cycle?
Parker Harris
Suika best toehoe
Jack Sanchez
For naturals that don't have all day to train and recover or a team of doctors and coaches to support them never. But if you are refering to the kind of Bulgarian program you can find on owlsheets or on 's blog then you know you are ready when your 1RMs are 100% stable and you can't progress linearly anymore
Benjamin Gray
How much could I potentially jerk with a 250lb pushpress?
Cooper Jones
Im pretty sure most people here have 200+ sinclair
Brandon Thomas
>set up powerclean weight >no one comes in and snatches it because im the only weightlifter in the gym feels bad man, I want to go back to Russia to my WL gym
Nathaniel Morris
What if you're a DYEL who can't even snatch a plate
David Adams
Ye chinese secrets 100 dorra each
Adrian Sullivan
overhead squats and heavy overhead anderson squats.
Cooper Torres
you could potentially jerk 0 lbs with a 250 push press
Landon Edwards
sots press
Jaxson Wright
you get more specific close to important competitions heavy singles should probably be done from 6-2 weeks out or so
What do I do when my ability to snatch/clean pull far more than I can snatch/clean but the program calls for snatch/clean pulls as a percentage of my sn/cj 1RM? All the extremely light pulls seem like a waste of time.
Jose Thompson
No :(
Andrew Smith
snatch and clean more
Christopher Lee
this
Nathaniel Gonzalez
That sure would be swell.
Cooper Bell
depends on the purpose of the pulls and how your technique is when going heavier with them
Jordan Reed
or even better, do both "blocks" but have each "block" last only a week have a couple of minor variations to have 2-3 "blocks" of each and now you have a 4-6 week cycle of lifting that provides >WEEKLY UNDULATING PERIODIZATION with little risk of boredom or overuse injuries or stagnation
Anthony Hill
Bump
Lucas Sanchez
Booomp
John Jackson
I just wanna be stronger guys
Leo Ramirez
with good form, exactly 0.0 (zero point zero) pounds.
Jacob Adams
Currently on week 3 of everetts 2014 american open cycle program which was one of the few free ones.
Anyone have experiences with it? I really push myself for 5rm's then try to do the back off sets without decreasing weight.
Also anyone have tips on increasing strength? Ive been snatching and cleaning for almost four years and my technique is dialed in, but feeling like I should progress more. Extremely frustrating when your snatch has only gone up 10kg in 3 years.. Also only recently started to take training seriously and not skip days so that may be it.
Bw 75kg 85s/105c+j
Aiden Gutierrez
What are your squats and pulls at? Show us videos of the lifts to assess technique as well
Carter Peterson
Also, how tall are you?
Owen Reed
Ive used the oly calculator and my pulls/squats are around 135kg. Daily max snatch and c+j are 80/100. Most of my lifts fit the ratios (powers, front squat) so i can only assume its my strength.
I squat deep and train pretty hard 5x a week with accessories after too. Ive been told by others i have great positions and speed. But my damn lifts are not increasing.
Everetts program has alot of variations and complexes but i can only assume i may need to find a strength based wl program?
Also i was really inconsisent with lifting for my first two years (taking days off) and didnt ever follow a complete program so im really trying to discipline myself towards something that can increase my lifts.
Christopher Perez
Also i am 5'9, around 75kg
Aaron Davis
Yeah, get stronger. Also, gain weight. You should be a 94 at that height.
Mason Gutierrez
Just taking lifting seriously will help as well.
Cameron Bell
Ty for advice. Gonna stick with everetts program but really push myself with squats/pulls. Also probably gonna invest in creatine and whey.
Colton Nguyen
400? Seriously ?
Josiah Nelson
Say my old snatch was 79kg and my max power is 109kg can I plz have a 200 Sinclair ?
Joseph Ortiz
bump!
Brandon Rodriguez
>tfw squat jerking is only 25 years away from becoming the dominant style, even in North America
>tfw in the 1950s people used to split snatch and squat jerk
>tfw Oly will become FastSquatSport by 2043 and everybody failing to use the squat variations of both lifts will not make it
Having said that I undoubtedly have the worst snatch in this thread >goodbye friends
Jack Thomas
squat jerk will never be relevant as even the best squat jerkers still give inconsistent performances because it is an inferior position and less efficient as you do 2 full squats as opposed to 1 and a split
David Sanders
how the fuck do you not have a 200 sinclair with a 109 snatch
Gabriel Thompson
My first bar just arrived today and is oily as fuck. Redpill on this
Noah Russell
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Jason Adams
gee its almost as if an oil layer protects from oxidation or something like that
Bentley Cooper
yeah, but this is grotty levels.
Jacob Harris
then get a cleaner to remove the oil layer
are you this decrepit and incapable christ almighty man
James Reed
Fuck man, it's my first bar and I wasn't expecting this shit. I came for some knowledge. Fuckin sue me
Mason Diaz
and I told you why it was on the bar
then you complain more
what fuckin more do you want
Charles Howard
Should of told him to rub his dick on it
Aiden Morris
they used to think the squat clean or squat snatch would never be relevant >less efficient as you do 2 full squats as opposed to 1 and a split can you do a barbell lunge with as much weight as you can do a squat to the same depth?
Thomas Peterson
...
Cooper Moore
>Tfw 69 at that height
William Sanchez
What is that, 305 freedoms?
Naturally she sumo pulls it, because she can't keep her legs together.
Luke Cruz
wew my leg extension on cleans fucking blows
I feel powerless above mid thigh and extend too early
Chase Howard
...
Adam Morris
>Should of
Mason Wilson
How is your day going? What you training today?
Levi White
Front squat and hyperthrophy today
Austin Kelly
snatch quadruples (2 from floor, 2 from hang), only go up to 80kg or so but still kinda tiring
then squat 7s and some assistance work
Andrew Evans
clean pull+power clean+ Power jerk Snatch pull+ power snatch some other work that i can't remember
Sebastian Cook
>vagene O P E N B O B
David Cooper
lol
Luis Rivera
How normal is knee, shoulder and hip pain in wl? I have been doing general strength stuff for about a year (while practicing the oly lifts with minimal weight to perfect form) and I am now 2 weeks into my first wl program and my joints hurt to the point where bodyweight squats are difficult when I am "cold". So, is this normal?
Thomas Morris
rest day, deloading on squats
Michael Hall
It was CNJ, Clean pulls and F. Squat day (which is my favorite) but I had a fucking headache and after each CNJ it became worse, after the 3rd set I had to quit because the pain was so bad I couldn't focus. Not 1 single good rep was performed. This shit fucking sucks
Jacob Jenkins
wed, so cleans then deads as main, dips pullups ohp for accessories week 1 of 4 so heavy 3x3, gonna do sets across and amrap the last
Eli Jenkins
in Russia this guy wouldve been hanged
Jeremiah Gonzalez
How poor is my ankle mobility?
Isaac Rivera
Seriously ?
Ian Mitchell
How the fuck am l supposed to hold the bar for snatch