How can we stop the vegan menace?

either MoD plod or armed police, fuck all that unarmed bollocks. Would go armed forces but I am fussy eater so I would die within a week of eating slop.

>you cant ever pack heat or touch the blacks
>or
>not both at the same time

This was just after the London attacks so all ARV's were occupied so they had no armed officers. London is a lost cause, please don't think it represents the UK as a whole. Its depressing just watching this shit, one officer spearing him would of solved this shit in seconds.

even the japanese police carry guns i dont know why european faggot police cant

Its pretty shit ngl, even Prince Philip (the queens husband) supports armed police and less strict gun laws . Japan have such a low crime rate that the police spend most of their day checking bicycle licenses ffs.

>Japan have such a low crime rate that the police spend most of their day checking bicycle licenses ffs.
and they still carry a .38, theres no reason to not give the popo at least a peashooter to scare off some retards

requesting virgin farmer vs chad vegan activist

Might makes right

The virgin farmer
>feeds his animals and then eats them
>healthy lifestyle with a variety of food
>married with children
>works all day to make money
The chad vegan
>has never seen an animal in his life
>lives completely off soy
>aborted 5 children this week
>has never broken a sweat for his cash

I have to ask why London is so found of pakis?
Americans and jews as greatest ally i can understand, they stabilished deep roots during the mafia era and are now omnipresent in Hollywood and media, and they can fall back as holocaust victims whenever things go awry

But what gravitates british towards the pakis tho? I mean pakis got child rape gangs across multiples cities by decades and the british response was electing a paki mayor, why?

>british response was electing a paki mayor, why?
outbreed the local population and vote yourself into power. The more children you have the more money you get. The clown with a rope around his neck watering the tree he's hanging himself with.

Kill them? The same thing for leftists. I've never met someone as violent as socialists.

>not understanding that humans no longer need to consume animals and thus would rather leave them to their own devices
>thinks vegans are not aware of what happens in nature

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Farmers are the only ones in this country with guns so im not sure what they have to fear

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>humans no longer need to consume animals

>people require food
>if it's not animals it must come from plants
>""""6 billion people only eating plants is feasible""""
>landmass required to this is definitely not enough to support a vegan diet for humanity
>""hurr what are hydroponics""
>water is required for crops, both soil and hydroponics
>drinkable water is increasingly diminishing and the price for it will skyrocket, making the price of harvested food and other goods that require water like wine to increase as well

>by 2025 1.8 billion people will be living in countries or regions with absolute water scarcity
>two-thirds of the world's population could be living under water stressed conditions.

un.org/waterforlifedecade/scarcity.shtml

>vegans are aware of nature

No, they are fucking not. Vegans are extremely individualistic, they only care about feeling good about themselves and give a shit about how their own life style disregard the huge fucking logical problem that water is scarce.

>hurr cattle uses more water than plants
The land usage for food depends on the efficiency of the diet, data shows a low to moderate meat diet outperforms a vegan one and a vegetarian diet with dairy products is the best overall. This data also considers water shortages and uses of water, so no, fuck off, a vegan diet IS NOT SUSTAINABLE AND THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT THIS SUBJECT AT ALL

elementascience.org/articles/10.12952/journal.elementa.000116/

vegan diet isn't even feasible without a bunch of proceed shit to keep calories up. whereas you can only eat meat and survive perfectly well with plenty of calories. imagine how many vegetables and fruit you would have to eat to get to even 2000 calories. take all of the processed crap, like bread, pasta, chocolate away from vegans and they would starve. veganism is just a fad for people who want to think they're better than everyone else, muh empathy, muh animals,. fucking bugmen need to die.

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Just a reminder,UK justice court endangered his life purposely by sending him to some place with more diversity than usual
They will gladly kill their own citizens over a bacon prank

It's quite amazing actually. The once great British Empire now "Made in Pakistan"

>no citation
>just a clickbait headline

Farmers more likely live in fear of financial ruin if they do shit that the larger meat company dislikes.

telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/01/29/vegan-campaigner-says-farmers-complain-death-threats-abuse-playing/

Why do people harp on about Sweden when England is just as bad, if not worse?

Because the UK has a class based system and thus these issues only affect the unfortunate.
t. Working class Englishman

Whereas in Sweden they affect everyone and yet no-one acknowledges it.

Hey friend, could you tell me what animals eat?
Can you also tell me what animals drink?

>muh rainforest
>muh deadzones
>muh global warming
>muh heart disease

Eat meat

wait for world war 3, the weak die first and the strong rebuild a sane society

>MELON EXTRAVAGANZA
what?

Shoot them.

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What the fuck is wrong with vegans guys, literally the only vegans I know are all anti-vaccine and all are fucking hardcore conspiracy theorists.

Does being vegan damage mental functions?

why do you have unarmed officers at the first place?

>animals are mortal so lets just murder them
>humans will die anyway so I can decide when where and how XD

hurr durr let me cherry pick and play on a sterotype because I have a low IQ

farmers are the biggest faggots ever, they do highly immoral acts and then cry when they get called out...dairy farmers are by far the biggest faggots though...yeah your profits will continue to drop, get out while you can

I honestly am in awe people like you are fully able to vote. The jews would of died outside of aushwitz anyway so it was wrong for the germans to holocaust em

>also I hold a wild lion to the same moral agency as a human
truly psychopathic, but your IQ is too low to see it

>its stupid cus I say so neh neh neeeh neh

guy gets arrested and nobody gets hurt how cringe right

>hurr durr if u aren't a farmer u don't know about animals
>hurr durr if you don't support my business u must only eat soy!!!11

there is nothing immoral about abortion before sentience and you will not be able to prove this

>never seen someone as violent
>supports murdering and raping millions of animals
>supports murdering other humans because they are not cruel to animals

>its substainable to deforest huge amounts of land to put cattle there so we can murder them but don't think we can put plants there hahahahahaha

the state of your IQ
You didn't explain anything, just putting a URL is not evidence

the absolute state of you. How ignorant can you get...its so fucking easy to eat 2500 calories from plants, how much of a nu male are you to find that in anyway difficult?

>newspapers never lie they always tell the truth

meat cucks always get demolished

I'm convinced it does.

you don't know any vegans...id love to know where all these holocaust deniers get all these vegan friends....its a meme for vegans because most vegans do not know other vegans unless going to specific vegan events

because we don't need them and when they are needed armed officers are there within minutes

Any proof?

well it doesnt

No literally my (former) best friend when I was in high school and his entire family are vegans, and all of them where hardcore conspiracy theorists and organised rallies etc in my area

il give you the benefit of the doubt....well your mate and his senpai are retarded lol

how did he change his family vegan? if you actually speak to vegans you would realise your (((former friend))) has done the impossible

Not him, but when not factory farmed and fed on a diet of soy and oil pellets, pigs are foragers, and used to subside quite well on our waste food or on food we are unable to eat in the wild.
Cows and sheep are grazers, and eat grass like many herbivores, which we are totally unable to digest as we are not natural vegetarians.
In many parts of the world, land which is not viable for plant agriculture can still maintain grass or woodland, in many cases being their preferable state.
Full efficient use of land requires some use of wild and grazed livestock.

I also believe we should switch from chicken to duck egg production, as they produce larger eggs, and in some breeds more regularly than chickens, and their farming could make use of marshland where they will find their natural diet of insects and small plants, which would only be viable for farming with expensive and ecologically destructive land reclamation.

His parents changed him vegan, he use to eat everything and suddenly wouldn't eat anything with animal products etc when we would go out. I basically cut ties with him after he started getting into hard drugs and crazy conspiracy shit

>we cant eat grass so we are not herbivores
>does not know different herbivore typesjust google

fairs man...is he a flat earther?

Nah, chem trails and mind control mainly lmao

>claims multiple types of herbivore
>follows ideology which claims ONLY ONE type of omnivore
>claims chimps are frugivore, despite a diet containing meat and insects.
>corelates a plains animal to their closest relative, a tree dweller, and claims they are a frugivore too, not a scavenger which waits for fruit to drop seasonally.

We are naturally scavenging/opportunistic omnivores, who have evolved jaw and facial traits unrelated to our diet.
Hunting and farming is unnatural, but it is how we have developed as a species to meet our food demand without the need to spend all day chewing roots, or stealing other predators scraps.

Maybe knowing a bit more about nature and animals would help, but as most vegans are hipster faggots, whose closest interaction with nature through their life is a PETA blog, I guess we'll have to put up with cries of "but chicken are people too!" For not.

Vegans are the manlets of the dietary world.

1. There are different type of herbivores, such as grazers and fruit based, this is just fact
2. No I don't
3. The fact that chose to eat something in the wild because of low IQ does not mean they are not herbivore
>99.999999 plants but 1 bug hurr durr they are Omni like a bear
3. Nope

Yes naturally we are scavengers, irrelevant

I know a lot about animals and have seen and interacted with many, its why I choose not to needlessly kill them. Because I see them as having value...nice one at assuming I'm a hipster faggot, am I an SJW as well?

If I'm such a faggot and vegans are so delusional and illogical why cant any meatcuck prove the principles of veganism wrong?

What value a pig has? Or a cow? Outside of producing food and dairy? They've been bred for a single purpose for millenniums.

Checked the interweb for Ops story and it doesn't seem to exist

>if they do not provide a service to me then the life does not have value

can you honestly not see how psychopathic that thinking is mate?

also just saying "they have been bred to be killed" does not mean killing them is moral....if your mom turned round now and said, she only bred you for her to eat, would you accept that as justification to stab you then eat you?

inb4 you hurr durr me and say a cow is different to a human, yes I know this..

Shoot them?

your life has 0 value to me, but I still think you have moral value...I mean cmon, how drool do I have to get here?

>1, there are also different types of omnivore, and different types of carnivore, this is also just a fact. Throughout history, and in primitive or untouched cultures, and our closest related species, the diet is vary similar, and points towards scavenging omnivores. Veganism is a luxury of modern mass production farming and global transportation.
>2, doesn't follow single omnivore belief, but then compares human diet to bears to try to make argument ludicrous.
>3, 4, please look at hunting habits and seasonal diet of chimpanzees. The "vegan" great ape which accidentally eats the occasional bug is the gorilla, not our closest relative.
The frugivore correlation is far too common in vegan circles, and is based on falsehoods.

How is being a natural scavenger irrelevant, unless your argument is to abandon our preferred diet, to accept a diet even further from nature, filling diversity through mass food transportation, when we should be reverting away from excessive agricultural practice?

What ARE the principles of veganism?
Because without the cherry picked studies, its health benefits are questionable.
Morality is subjective, so most people do not consider farming to be rape and murder.
And the ecological impact is not as influential as they would like everyone to believe, whilst we are still using fossil fueled freight to ship in their coconut water and guava fruit.

when have you ever made any valuable points and backed them up with highly cited academic resources. Assuming it's the same group that continues to shill veganism on here.
Plenty of people have refuted your claims but you refuse to acknowledge them.

A non-self-conscious being has lesser value than a human. Animals don't give a shit about morals and why do we when considering them?
You don't necessarily have moral value to me.

Except we can, very easily.

>muh ethics
Stems from a childlike understanding of moral philosophy. Ethical categories exist and are meaningful - there’s a clear difference between a human and a chimp and a human and a cow. Being unable to realise this suggests that your ability to grasp complex ideas about the area are underdeveloped rather than ‘advanced’ - you can’t reason WHY it’s okay to use animals for food but not okay to murder or eat people and use veganism to avoid the issue entirely. Vegans even tacitly admit it with their facile appeals to the harm principle. Which is ridiculous anyway because

>muh not using or harming animals
Is literally impossible. The topsoil that we depend on for to grow crops (sustainable or not) depends on animals living, shitting, and dying on it for the essential nutrients plants require. Yes, even plants eat animals, and the only way to avoid using animal products to refertilise soil is to use oil (read:animal) runoffs. So well done vegans. Your insane childish ethical dumbfuckery is actively subsidising big oil. And this is without even going into the millions of animals that die yearly so that we can sustain arable farming productivity. Which is even dumber when you consider

>muh nutrition
ljl just ljl. Basically all vegans are either mineral or fat deficient in some capacity (inb4 but my uncle was a vegan and he deadlifted 800 and ran ultra marathons competitively). Vegans who have been vegans for any length of time are almost uniformly weak, listless, probe to chronic forgetfulness, and prone to injury and illness to a comical degree.

>muh health
Ask any doctor with experience of cardiovascular patients and they’ll tell you the same thing: it’s primarily down to genetics, with a a small lifestyle and diet skew. Those really in the know will tell you you’re more likely to overcome the limitations of your genetics by getting and staying strong.

Nobody has EVER got strong by going vegan.

>muh biology
Provably wrong with even a second of googling. Yes, there are multiple types of herbivore. You know what they all have in common? A highly specialised digestive system that relies on a symbiotic relationship with many different species of micro organism to effectively digest and process the shitty, energy-inefficient food they eat into something that they can build tissue out of. The two most common categories are ruminants (which have evolved a system of multiple stomachs, a huge intestine, and the practice of rumination to digest cellulose effectively, and still need to spend their entire waking lives eating to get enough) and hindgut-fermenters, which have a specialised part of the intestine full of bacteria that ferment half-digested plant matter to recover essential nutrients. Smaller ones literally eat half digested food from their own backside to reingest it and recover minerals and protein. Have you ever noticed how humans do neither of these things?

Or that the only plant foods with high enough quantities of protein to sustain an active human also contain a shit ton of carbohydrates and most of them grow nowhere near each other naturally?

Yes it is likely that at some point humans and chimps had an ancestor that was primarily a herbivore. Chimps still have this specialised digestive apparatus and CAN live on a plant based diet if they’re required to. They do, however, actively seek out insects for protein and raid anthills and termite mounds regularly. Humans preserve vestigial features which suggest we once had this capability too. However it’s quite clear that we adapted to a meat-eating niche a long time ago, primarily because it is easier to eat meat if you can. It’s also much easier for a herbivore to adapt to eating meat than it is for a primarily-carnivorous or omnivorous animal to adapt the other way (one route requires the development of highly specialised digestive organs, one requires not using them anymore.)

>Being unable to realise this suggests that your ability to grasp complex ideas about the area are underdeveloped
Honestly man If I were you I wouldn't even bother writing anymore. You already succinctly figured out the vegan shtick. Something I've learned (in all the time I've wasted arguing with dudes online) is that if someone makes a major error in reasoning early on, there is pretty much no chance whatsoever that you will be able to sway them. No matter how nuanced or articulate your points are. They are literally too stupid to reason or think abstractly or even understand principles. It's just a waste of time bothering with them.

It’s more for anyone else watching than it is for them. Because of years of misinformation and health scares a lot f people have this weird idea that vegetarianism and veganism are somehow better for them, for animals, and for the environment. None of those are true but the reasons aren’t immediately obvious - though they are intuitive once someone has spelled them out.

People need to realise that most of the health problems we experience in the west are only marginally related to diet - they almost all can be traced back to the fact that the vast majority of us are weak and indolent and live shitty lifestyles based around self gratification and the avoidance of any kind of difficulty. Even the kind that has refining power. People with a genetic predisposition towards heart disease get it because they start out weak and get weaker as they get older, which means their bodies struggle to do an adequate job with degrading material that already started out damaged. Does the average western diet help that? Probably not, but putting the poor fucker on a no meat diet is likely only going to fuck them up more because they’ll retain less muscle and get even weaker.

Come to think of it, veganism is actually a movement that could only exist in a society like this - one that actively discourages people from connecting to the realities of their own physical existence. Anyone who’s spent time on a farm or out in the woods - not even hunting, just observing nature - knows that aside from some micro-organisms, life can only exist by taking other life. In order to have its next meal, every animal and plant out there has to kill SOMETHING. The typical vegan is so sheltered from this reality and so physically passive that even trying to introduce them to the idea upsets them.

You can’t stop us.

>Wants to join armed forces

>"Fussy eater"

Thats okay user, I heard there are plenty of fags in the army who need a warm hole to fill! That job sounds just right for you :)

>vegans killing farmers

they are probably hungry

... cops make 18k a year starting pay

they ARE the retards

If these v*gan faggots cared about animals they could just pay the farmers more than the meat industry does to take care of the animals instead of kill them.

When they say strong people are stupid they are not kidding. My brain hurts from all the "reasoning" of people in this thread.

>Muh protein!
>Muh fuck nature
>Muh fuck my health

Iam not a vegan, but there are more than enough science to support the claims about the environment, and health. As for the moral reasons, morality is subjective to each society and therefore i cannot say it is immoral.

Sometimes it is better not to post. Your logic is idiotic.

t. shill

t.vegan who cares more about money than animals :^)

at least meat eaters are honest

have you ever seen a person who has been vegan for years?
how about bloodwork of someone like that?
Why arent absolutely every single last one of nutrition professionals and doctors vegans by now then?

>Being afraid of SOYMANLETS
lol

that dude's an omnivore
he has himself eating a steak on his instagram
omnivores forever cucked

ITT everyone is afraid of vegans

Daily reminder that Veeky Forums is a vegan board now

>vegan women don’t exist

>t. shill

>muh nutrition
>mineral or fat deficient
Daily reminder that in a ten year study, they found that omnivores have an average of 8 deficiencies and vegans have an average of 3 in the western world.
Okinawans were mostly vegan and live to 100.
>muh not using or harming animals
Okay so since we accidentally murder animals while growing crops, it's okay to shove them down our throats I guess. Nice logic, faggot. You realize that 95% of crops go to feeding animal agriculture, right? Fucking moron.
>muh ethics
This paragraph is one long rant and has no value in it whatsoever.
>muh health
HAHAHAHA. IT'S GENETICS? Vegans have almost zero risk of heart attack.
>small skew
You're a fucking retard. The data exists and it is strong. Veganism is healthier by the bucketload.
>Nobody has EVER got strong by going vegan.
That's why half of the Patriots, a few NBA teams, and strongmen are currently adopting veganism? Strange. I thought it didn't make you stronger, based of what youv'e said.
Patrick Baboumian hasn't put 220 lbs onto his bench since going vegan 8 years ago? Man that's interdatsin, thanks user.
tl;dr you're a retarded faggot who spent to much time bitching about something you know nothing about

Might as well just go rape girls since it’s possible to happen anyways. Lets rob and kill people too. Why not? It’s going to happen anyways, so why shouldn’t I just contibut to the problem?
How many animals do you think we eat per year? Probably a lot right? Now imagine how much resources we put into feeding and growing these animals each year. You honestly don’t think it would be easier and overall more realistic to feed people rather than people and animals?

let's bring back slavery, since the slavers need to make money
cotton farms don't make as much money and employ niggers anymore
BRING BACK SLAVERY
(you're a stupid faggot who should never stop lurking)

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that's stranger, literally my (former) best friend when I was in high school and his entire family are omnivores, and all of them are flat-eathers, anti-vacc'ers, they're all about 600 lbs of jiggly fat, and they all are rapists.

strange how every single omnivore is all of those things

is abortion vegan