Does anyone have a /sortyourselfout/ starter pack? I know he's peddled a lot here but I would always throw that shit aside as snakeoil, however I just started listening to guy and realized his advice might help me.
What are some good videos/talks?
Does anyone have a /sortyourselfout/ starter pack? I know he's peddled a lot here but I would always throw that shit aside as snakeoil, however I just started listening to guy and realized his advice might help me.
What are some good videos/talks?
just started rewatching his maps of meaning course 2017, its good
he's a snakeoil salesmen trying to make money off of insecure young men. Same goes with him, Roosh V and TRP. Alot of these guys have good advice but it is nothing unique or special. You can get it by lifting, meditating, cleaning your room and reading shit like marcus aurelius.
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probably, but I don't mind since I'm not paying for anything
i just say this so you don't fall down the rabbit hole of idiot right wing grifters who are trynna make a buck. have a few friends who fell for the meme
I don't think he is a snake oil salesman so much as he is providing a service the market needs. There is now a generation of men who have grown up without a father figure courtesy of high divorce and single motherhood rates and while some of what he offers is philosophical musings a lot of it is stuff you really should have learned from your primary male role model. I think for the most part he is just doing what he thinks a responsible person in his position would do in the circumstances.
That said, read meditations, 10/10 top book and you can pick copies up for pretty cheap.
thanks user.
>Jordan Peterson is a snake oil salesman who should be ignored
>Read and do these other things to learn the same stuff Jordan Peterson is trying to teach
Odd.
>Snake oil salesman
>Uploads all his lectures to youtube for free, unmonetized, without ads
rly makes u think.
He's 100% taking advantage of his position by charging as mich as he does for the shit he does. $14 for a tumblr tier personality test, $2k for a signed rug (a fucking rug).
Good advice, but the man is a pure jew at heart
who here /unsortable/
He sells some shit, but then he gives some really good quality material away for free. Most people offering what he does in his youtube videos and self authoring books would sell that material and make more than he does from the few things he charges for.
No one.
I don’t trust gnostics, but he seems like a nice a guy. I wish I could convince him to be a Catholic
Kek i had psy100 with him skipped all of his classes and got 87 all of the test and exam questions were on a test bank
Haven't checked out his stuff yet, I'm going through the the Enchiridion right now and plan on reading Marcus Aurelius's Meditations and Senaca's letters afterwards. Would recommend
ignore the r/the_donald-core and find internal motivation for yorself, a lot of his advice is common sense shit anyway
He literally gets 40k a month from patreon and his Bible study series sold tickets.
He is milking depressed losers for their money, which is fine by the way, but it's far from him being some benevolent being bestowing long lost wisdom.
all of his stuff is free on youtube dude.
Talks from fellow anons, srs
>get real estate sales license for 1 month of your time and $1000
>start selling houses and get $2-5k every sale
>get to 100k-500k/yr through sales
>buy up houses, flip them, then rent them out
>quit real estate sales, live off rent
>spend 5 hours a week collecting rent making millions a year
See? You don't need to listen to some dumbshit sitting on his ass all day talking about motivation. I just told you how to make millions and live off of passive income.
thanks
>go on youtube
>give him ad revenue
>see him advertising his snake oil
Hmmm yeah totally "Free"
...
Realistic probability of that occurring?
0-5% in a lifetime.
Average realtor earns below average income.
Ultra competitive, market is saturated.
Success largely dictated by luck and inheritance.
What you're saying is the equivalent of just saying
> Oh, buy a day trading software and you'll be earn 5 milly per day easy bro trust me I saw wolf of wall street.
>Average realtor earns below average income.
Hint: google it.
He doesn't have ads on youtube. He specifically turns them off because of retards like you.
How do you know how much he earns per month? He took down the exact dollar amount last time I checked his patreon account
NoFap is the only autistic thing on this image
>median below mean
>brainlet wojak
He must have really thin skin to be affected by people mentioning that he uses ads kek. Care to contradict any of my other points?
Personally I wouldn't know either way, I use adblock and wouldn't watch a single video of the conman.
Even if he doesn't have advertisements then it means he makes enough of a living selling worthless trash "because of retards like you".
>no adds on his youtube
>never buy any of his stuff
>get a hundred hours of videos and stuff
>never pay an dollar for anything
>He is basically giving the same advice people like tony robbins do in their seminars where they make millions
>Information is useful ergo not snake oil.
Man, you sound depressed. I never call successful men "conmen" - I call them "smarter men than me". Because that's what they. Smarter than me, smarter than you. This is capitalism, brain dead faggot. You sell shit, people buy it because they want it. People that buy it are retards? You think 700,000 people that subscribe are retards, but you, YOU of all people, are the one free of mental illness? I scoff at your bold arrogance that is insofar completely unsupported by reality.
What other points?
You have no idea what his work is and already feels qualified to judge him a "con man". Man, you must be so high on your own farts to think you can know blindly.
I've met a couple people like this poster in real life. Usually they are sexually undesirable, and live with their parents or other relatives.
All the successful, attractive people I've had the pleasure of knowing do not speak so derisively of anything, except those things for which they can give detailed and rational explanations for hating. This poster, however, has no reason to speak badly of Jordan Peterson other than to satiate his own pent up anger. He wants to make other people less than him, and get his test boost from calling them out for it. Unfortunately it's not working today.
Lol, also google the fact that 20% of realtors get 80% of the business and 80% of the realtors get 20%.
It's true, many people simply cannot compete. Many people are just lazy spergs who can't sell shit.
Here we have Cain speaking.
>What other points?
Patreon, bible study series, selling personality tests, signed fucking rugs kek
Blah blah blah, ad hominem
Blah blah blah, strawman.
Nice try my dude, I never said he wasn't smart. Just that he was taking advantages of brainlets like yourself and fleecing you of your money.
>700k subscribers
>hurr durr think you're smarter than 700k people?
The population of Africa is 1.2 billion. Does the fact there are so many of them mean that they are necessarily smarter than anybody else? learn to think for yourself you sheep.
Peace.
See the previous posts before making a fool of yourself by posting blatant falsehoods, thanks.
Nice fallacies, maybe actually try and refute my points instead of attacking my character next time.
Don't know what this means but I'll give you a (You) anyway. There we go! I gave all of you (You)s, your welcome.
>You think 700,000 people that subscribe are retards, but you, YOU of all people, are the one free of mental illness?
This is the dumbest shit I have seen all day
Just because there are over a billion mudslimes doesn't mean there desert religion has any truth to it. not only that but a BIG percentage of the world are fucking stupid, just look at America for christ sakes, 700k is a drop in the ocean for a population
>all the seething butthurt replies because somebody dared to criticise their hero
Man these Peterson fanboys are no better than the brainwashed cults that follow the likes of Stefan Molyneux, AmazingGatheist, InfoWars and other youtubers peddling their own brand of bullshit for dollaroos
kys brainlet
But what bullshit is Peterson peddling?
He doesn't appeal to me very much since I've sorted myself out years ago. If I was 10 years younger, I'm sure I would be more receptive to his message.
His appeal seems to be more with young men who feel some sort of perceived grievance.
Yeah, I know your mom watches those real estate shows and you think every realtor is ballin CEO 9 billy per second, but no.
That's like thinkin every lawyer is ballin when in reality most earn a fuckin shit wage and do fuccboi legal work for small shit businesses between suckin dick on the side so they can earn gas money.
The vast majority of realtors, as you just conceded (much random 20% statistic, but regardless) earn below average wages; i.e earn almost as much as burger flippers do.
Do yourself a favour and dial your fuckin brain in, idiot.
Lol get a load of this guy
You're the dumb goyim jews take advantage of
He's bad because people want to pay him a certain amount? Sounds like they're idiots or he's offering a useful service. Im going to assume you're mad at Jordan Peterson because you think you should be selling snakeoil instead?
>tfw missing out on the biggest cashflows of your life
lol this guy probably has bitcoins too.
you picked a rafter for your noose after bitcoin dropped over 10k value?
I'll post again once I buy my first house, auction is in May so that would mean I made 20-30k by that time. EZ PZ
he mentioned it on the h3 podcast
ahahah sure thing bro enjoy ur suicide
>Literally makes thousands a month in donations
>On top of his wage for his actual job
>and royalties on his book
>"Thanks for the donations, guys. Don't forget to buy my personality tests for the low low price of only $10!"
Thats without even going into the utterly retarded crusade against le evil collectivism. I enjoyed his maps of meaning lectures too, but get a fucking grip, lads.
Holy shit guy you think intelligence has anything to do with religion? It doesn't. If you're a smart enough muslim to know about science and evolution, you're smart enough to know that Islam gives you a huge upper hand in your society.
You see this kind of poster everywhere, I'm telling you. Ever read Elon Musk threads on /g/? People abound say "this guy is bringing usa to next level for space launches", but fuckface over here comes out of the woodwork anyway to try and "disprove" his accomplishments. Then everyone gangs up and rightfully calls fuckface a retard (which he is) and fuckfaces only rebuttal is "WOW LOOK AT THE BRAINWASHED HORDES, HURR DURR THEY'RE RETARDED AND NOT ME FOR SURE". Its fucking comical. Jordan Peterson is your new god like it or not faggot. Clean your fucking room.
This, whether somebody keeps to a religion or not is ultimately dependent on whether its beneficial to that person or not. Politics too in a lot of ways.
>people choose to give you money
>you hold down a steady job as well
>you're so well liked that people on internet forums go out of their way to defend you
>get to take down any feminist who tries to give you le white male privilege spanking
M8 I would look up to someone like that if I were you
>get to take down any feminist who tries to give you le white male privilege spanking
Literally anybody can do this with ease.
People on forums are spergs. Example: Veeky Forums
People choose to give him money, yes. He uses that money to produce tests. Which he then charges those very same people for. I don't have a problem with people being scam artists, but I do have a problem with someone who spends every day espousing the importance of virtue and honesty, while simultaneously pulling that shit.
> Literally anybody can do this with ease.
Meanwhile, literally nobody can pull this off except a select few individuals in the context of almost 8 billion humans.
Niga shut the fuck up, you spout more shit than a sewerage pipe ya fuckin dunce.
Fucking lol. Because only a 'select few individuals' get put in tv spots with feminists, you utter moron. If every single one of us was put in a Channel 4 interview with some delusional suburbanite bitch, at least 80% of us would come out of it looking like the greatest philosophers of our age.
If you genuinely believe that debunking some random television feminist is a challenge, then you're just a simpleton. Which explains why you overvalue what Peterson does and think its oh so profound. Mystery solved.
thanks brah
He's a fucking redditor hack
I refuse to believe that he's not woke on the JQ. Surely he sees all of the (((coincidences)))
He is woke about it. Look it up, they asked him about him, and after 2 minutes of reflection he said "You know, I can't talk about this"
just you fatso
How is it that you project your depression so well in your posts? Is this a cry for help?
Why are you so jealous?
TL;DR
1. Identify the problem.
2. Find meaning.
3. Stop procrastinating.
4. Become productive.
5. Negotiate with yourself.
6. Be good to yourself.
7. Be free from your past.
commies get out
You're ignorant and naive.
He's a type of person Jordan talks about when mentioning Milton's Paradise Lost.
When do they send your medals for winning shitty internet arguments about people liking stuff you don't like?
>courtesy of high divorce and single motherhood
not only that. In my case it was a soyboy beta cuckboy orbiter father.
what is the name of this type of art?
real life with anime girls
What's wrong with calling other people on their vapid bullshit?
I don't think his advice is really that special either but he doesn't seem like a snake oil salesman. Didn't most of his fame come just recently beause he randomly argued with >muh SJWs on TV?
Single motherhood is the grievance I see them have usually, and he is standing up to the people that have told straight white males they're not good enough for the past 50 years
And that's how you become the dad of 700k young men that have been replacing their fathers with the internet
SJWs brought him into the spotlight, but he's been doing this sort of content for over two decades now. He's also a psychologist with 2-3 decades worth of practice, so he knows what he's saying and isn't bullshitting you.
>implying a clock maker isn't autistic about clocks
Just because he makes money from something doesn't mean it isn't genuine and passion fueled
depressioncore
Young man are his targeted audience, but he's aiming at every single individual who have fallen of their path and seeks to see them prosper or at least have a chance to.
He himself said you should find a field of interest and make a fortune out of it, so there's no dishonesty at work here.
Go back to leftypol faggot
im very happy that jordan peterson is, ive watched so many of his videos and he is first person to tell me that i am capable of beating my fears and demons and that i can work to do anything i want, he also says that i learn to let go of the past, when i was nine? years old my mom cut my throat and my brother and put us down in the street, she shot herself and my brother was killed but i lived when medics found me
i don't know who my dad is and i am afraid of things a lot because of this experience, i have a lot of fear and anxiety? but jordan peterson said that the things done to me don't need to hold me back now, and soon i will let them go!
its actually the reason i love Veeky Forums, because i can lift and learn and get a lot better, lifting is good because i have some problems breathing with my neck like it is, but it doesnt matter because i can overcome that! i love you guys and i love jordan peterson, i would still be in a dark place without his videos
anyway love you guys! :)
Same. I read the first part of JP's new book and he mentions drinking and how you should stop because it's temporary. And what have I done every night this week? Drink. I'm pathetic.
Peterson is helping young men (and others) improve their lives, with vast amounts of his content free to access online. I don't care if he charges for some of that content, or if people willingly donate to his Patreon, because he's providing a needed service. That's the basis of our economy; someone provides a service, and others pay for it. You don't have to pay, that's your choice. He put time and effort into developing projects like the Self-Authoring programme, why shouldn't he sell it for a little profit? As if anyone here criticising him for it would give away their hard work for free.
Fellow abused user here. Mine was my father, he was himself abused as a kid, so I don't criminalize him too much. Nothing sexual, but he would burn my hands on the stove and pull fingernails off and stuff, it was pretty violent sometimes. I was kept home from school so no one ever saw my injuries. The night he shot himself he took one of my ears off with the kitchen knife. He didn't feed me much either, so I was kinda malnourished which is why I think I'm a manlet now lol. I'm sorry to hear about your brother, but I want you to know that absolutely nothing that happened to you was your fault, and you can choose to stop thinking about it. Everything is ahead of you mate, and the only way on is forward. You're much stronger then your parents made you feel.
Jesus Christ some people really go through hell, what the fuck
I'm gonna go thank my folks for being decent human beings, does this shit really happen in civilized society?
>The night he shot himself he took one of my ears off with the kitchen knife
Holy shit. Can you provide a pic? That's totally fucked.
post scar pls
Not my face but very similar, he cut (more like sawed) very close to my face, neighbors called the cops cuz they heard my wailing lol. Little bit of lobe left and I can hear okay out of the ear still. Dad was an angry man. Don't let rage get the best of ya fellas.
i just watch clips with good titles, his best vids are probably his joe rogan and h3 podcast interviews
things cost money lol
Honestly, don't bother trying to convince these people on here. If they're willing to listen to what he says, they will do it on their own. As far as I can tell, people on here are generally so caught up in their meme universe where everything is either a meme or not a meme, and they chose that he's a meme.
They'll watch short soundbites of his lectures and interviews and miss the greater picture. They'll choose to subconsciously or consciously go with whatever is comfortable for them at this moment, just like the trans activists in the video that made Jordan famous in the first place. Without carefully listening to what he actually says, they will not be susceptible to the information and hear what they want to hear. In their heads they will put him in the same category as people like Athene, etc. because that's just about how much their attention span will allow.
To understand what someone is really saying, you have to open to asking the PROPER question PROPERLY and in my estimation a lot of these youngsters just don't know how to do that yet. In order to learn the answer to a question you have, you need to be able to form that question in the first place, which is no easy task in itself, AND actually be ready to learn the answer to that question, which involves sheathing your ego for once.
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"If they aren't willing to not be lost, you cannot help them."
you must pull off a great van gogh for halloween kek, its good youre not continuing the cycle of abuse
whoa there buddy back to the soy fields with you
>Everything is ahead of you mate, and the only way on is forward. You're much stronger then your parents made you feel.
fuck
Unironically start by cleaning your room. Maria Konde has a great book on how to actually do that.
Once you've mastered that, his recent book 12 Rules would be an okay place to start. You can Jack Sparrow the pdf if you don't want to pay for it.
The funny thing is, even though I have these I still bought the full thing.
It's just that useful.
Worth supporting him and his co-workers.