Have you noticed that the guys who are around 16-20 now are mostly fucking pathetic. Maybe once every three months I see a guy from that age group who I'd call manly, most of them are just pasty and offended.
The girls from that age group seem to have realized this.
I've had a ton of girls telling me how frustrated they are with the lack of actual men in their age group
What is the reason for this?
Thomas Price
>Generation soy Answered your own question.
Connor Garcia
But that can't be the reason It's not possible that everyone is eating copius amounts of soy
Also why is it that as all of the guys have became giant wusses all of the gals have turned into thots?
Aaron Moore
good times weak men etc
it's a bit of a meme but it checks out more or less
Carson Hill
Xenoestrogens
Luis Barnes
Your dad's generation was saying the same thing about your generation.
John Stewart
Its more than chemicals, we have a culture that discourages masculinity in men and a legal system that has de-fanged us.
Easton Davis
>implying they were wrong.
Christian Flores
( I wasn't user )
Hunter Torres
>Be me, 20 >Part of generation soy apparently >Don't consume soy >Lift, have a decent face >5'6" so thots don't even see me >Lift for waifu instead
Brody Carter
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Lincoln Jones
you are me except for the gay waifu shit
David Evans
The globalist neoliberal agenda is in full swing. The university indoctrinated soyboys and the fat feminist harpies are a visual symptom of a decaying civilisation.
Men fight back. Women go with the flow. Empowering women is code for weakening men. Weak men are easy to control. Death comes to us all but weak men are walking corpses without a grave to call their own
Alexander Bailey
So you're just me but sadder and lonelier?
Elijah Gray
>tfw can never get out of generation soy mode and be seen as manly because only 5'6"
Eli Rogers
Oh please women are the fucking worst. They want manly men but ten cry rape or blah Blah blah
Christian Cooper
All the high school age dudes I see around town have that same faggy Macklemore cut.
Grayson Bennett
Have you noticed that the only guys who complain about this shit are the worst offenders? Going to the gym 3 times a week for 45 minutes doesn't set you apart from whatever demographic you're trying to insult. Unless you played a team sport in your childhood or have really good genetics, you're the same as those other guys (to women)
Ugly/average guys don't realize that 90% of attracting women is just based on genetics, not how much """soy""" you consume, what your hobbies are, or how "manly" you act
Zachary Bailey
Pussyfication of men.Vidya is largely to blame. Its an addictive form of instant gratification that simulates achievement. Real work is hard and big achievements in life usually take time. If your 18+ you really dont have any good reason to sit at home all day playing vidya. People waste away in their parents basement for years playing games and then complain about how bad life sucks because they have nothing to show for all the time they have squanceres. Then they blame the economy, news, capitalist, whatever for their sad state. Its also womens fault and they are evil because the ones who arent as pathetic as them are repulsed by their unemployed 300lb basement dwelling Ogre ass.
But this is just one facet.
Evan Morgan
They probably watch dbz too.
Nathan White
>very well
Asher Scott
>its not my fault its just genetics >y-your the real loser for not realizing its all genetics!
Spoken like a true fatty
Nathan James
OP here, I've got a GF and I'm 6'4", 230lbs
Used to wrestle and now I'm more into lifting and stuff, wouldn't call myself handsome but I got a pretty solid physique
Liam White
Completion of the leftist goal of desmasculinization of men
Leo Kelly
the sad truth is the modern western person is not worth building a family with.
Lincoln Garcia
Fun fact, women on the pill piss out the hormones it contains, which is mostly estrogen. Sewage plants are unable to filter it out. It’s in the seas, the oceans, and tap water. This has lead to observations of male fish turning female and developing eggs. >they‘re turning the fucking frogs gay is not a meme as it turns out. This is mainstream knowledge, you can read this shit right on the fucking Wikipedia page.
Andrew Evans
google xenoestrogen and what it does and realize it's literally fucking everywhere
Hunter Perry
>unmanly/feminine men >women preferring older, more physically/emotionally mature men
not really a new phenomenon, just more visible in society now that conventional gender roles and the idea of a nuclear family are being moved away from. wouldn’t view it as black and white though, there are plenty of women and plenty of ways to attract them; most young men just have an unstable self-esteem and put women on a pedestal instead of focusing their energy on personal growth
Elijah Myers
western people are spoiled and want all benefits of life without putting in any of the work.
>instant information >fast food >health at every size >gender gap >porn >cosmetic surgery >tinder >self help books >drugs are easier to obtain now more than ever >non conformity forcing itself as part of the conformity
On this down hill slope of degeneracy what does the future hold?
Juan Ortiz
If it's a meme then it's an old one. The Greeks and Romans knew and talked about it. Hell, the Romans even gave their immediate Celtic neighbors in France lucrative trade deals and access to Roman luxury items (especially wine) so that they would become more docile and less warlike.
It was also reflected in their selection of recruits for the Legions: "No one, I imagine, can doubt that the peasants are the most fit to carry arms for they from their infancy have been exposed to all kinds of weather and have been brought up to the hardest labor. They are able to endure the greatest heat of the sun, are unacquainted with the use of baths, and are strangers to the other luxuries of life. They are simple, content with little, inured to all kinds of fatigue, and prepared in some measure for a military life by their continual employment in their country-work, in handling the spade, digging trenches and carrying burdens."
And the logic is simple. External pressures, physical or mental (but I think we can agree that modern first worlders experience very little of either), try an organism and in the process it either adapts or breaks. If there are no external pressures then there is nothing to drive the development of the desired traits.
Of course all of these factors affect women too, but endurance and hardness has traditionally been the domain of the masculine pretty much across all cultures. It's what women, bar very few exceptions, find attractive because they are both genetically and culturally tuned to it. It's why "Chads" generally get the girls, because they exhibit masculine traits that basement dwelling dweebs who spend their time on Veeky Forums do not.
In conclusion; we can emulate hardship, physical exercise is one such method, but very few people have the discipline, since that too is an acquired skill not perpetrated in the first world with all its instant gratification, to actually make their life a strenuous one.
Charles Hernandez
No, soyboys watch Rick & Morty.
Evan Jones
>thinking your cartoons are better than their cartoons You sad creature
Lucas Richardson
I have a theory that its to do with boys being raised more by their mothers. When fathers arent involved then there isnt as much of a male role model to the point where the boy basically doesnt quite know how to act like a man. He doesnt quite understand playfighting or how to interact with other men like a man would, and its even worse for interacting with women in a romantic way. Basically, without a father to show boys how to be proper males/alpha, they become little bitches by default. You see this in extreme cases with nice guys. I used to be a bit like this, where I didnt know how to have proper banter with mates or how to talk to girls i was interested in because I had a quite overbearing mum, but i have been working on myself to be a proper man, and id say so far its working. But not everyone has the foresight or self awareness, especially not in their late teens/early twenties.
T. 21 yo male
Austin Rodriguez
This. Its a really bad time to be a man, but we should be men anyway
Jason Brooks
>is a bad time to be a man You mean great time? Girls are easier than ever to pick up. I honestly hope none of you are babyface Nonmen but given how many people post here (and CBT) I know some of you are. I have WAY EASIER of a time getting laid than I should, and just making friends in general, because I'm not some twink offense collector. I know some of it is genetic (as far as physical etc), and I feel sorry it for you if your outside doesn't match your inside- I know I got lucky. But I also don't feel sorry for you if you have no purpose in life, no incredible path to follow beyond chasing girls and getting some shit college degree, only to settle for the best 6/10 at your future office. You chose boring. Your choice. Your fault. No true struggle? Also your fault. Fat to fit isn't a true struggle. Like the Roman post earlier in the thread, I did have rooooouuuugh shit and it did make me more of a man than a lot of guys I see. So yea, it's a great time to be a man because 80% of you aren't men.
Mason Taylor
>So yea, it's a great time to be a man because 80% of you aren't men.
This
Camden Gutierrez
>that image
Parker Harris
The bad guys won WWII.
Dominic Reed
Post a picture of yourself OP. Show us how much better than these soy boys you are
Henry Lewis
>not possible to eat copious amounts Bread, cold cuts, pizza, burgers, cake, fries, lasagna, chocolate, waffles, chocolate milk, cookies, canned tuna, muffins, brownies, chips, donuts, cereal, noodles, soups, sauces, dairy vitamin drinks, whey, soyjuice, sardine, icecream, ketchup/mayo/mustard Everything is getting soy be it as protein or oil/fat even processed meat is getting mixed with soy lately, i tend to see it with turkey and pork cuts They eat this shit everyday ever since they are born, both baby food and formula has soy on it too
Jonathan Sanchez
Why does his twitter header not surprise me at all
Kevin Adams
>implying soy increases estrogen Brainlet.
Noah Scott
+1
Matthew White
>instant information >tfw I'm an informationlet and can't last 2 seconds without googling something
Camden Richardson
>The bad guys won WWII.
Julian Howard
Cashew are fried in soy, some "roasted" peanuts as well, i forgot to add >why is soy so prevalent? 1kg of prime food product is worth 10$ 300kg of soy is 10$ Make 30% of your desirable food with soy on it, you get over 30% saving in production easy Now multiple those savings by millions upon millions for years.
Soy is the equivalent of edible plastic, its used purely for being cheap and versatile, and unlike sugar that has to be used for sweets only, soy doesn't. given the chance you would be eating sand and cardboard with your industrialized meals
Tyler Rodriguez
I'm 18, own a house (with a stupid mortgage), will have that paid off by 2022 at the latest, study, and hold down a steady job. Have a car, bike, 6'0 and 220lbs.
I still can't grow a beard so I just keep clean shaven.
Not all of generation soy are soybois OP, just 95%.
Juan Martinez
Your mom is a nice lady
Levi Sanchez
>mortgage at 18 Elaborate? Are you even eligible?
Easton Wright
>Have you noticed that the guys who are around 16-20 now are mostly fucking pathetic.
Men mature later than women. 16-20 year olds are still boys, not men. That's the way that it's ALWAYS been.
If anything, Generation Zyklon (aka current teens and early 20s) are much, much more manly than Gen Y was at their age. The internet has made lifting popular, and Build the Wall chants and rare pepes are the bane of every shitlib teacher's existence.
Ian Hernandez
wot
Nah, the way I did it was ask my dad to take out on my behalf, mortgage is under his name, but I make all the payments. Including my 60ish percent deposit.
Thomas James
its not soy. it's estradiol from birth control pills, metabolites of antidepressants and BPA's and other endocrine system disruptors in the water supply.
Dylan Thomas
>I'm 18, own a house (with a stupid mortgage) must be nice having a silver spoon
Ryder Miller
Half my deposit I made on my own, the other half is inheritence. Not really a silver spoon.
Connor Lewis
>I'm 18, own a house And you live in it? Instead of living in the dorm gaining social skills and learning about human psyche? My dad bought me a flat when I was 18 and it fucked me over more than it helped. >tfw everyone thinks I have a silver spoon >meanwhile that's literally all he did for me, didn't even teach me how to swim and constantly told me I'm a piece of shit
Julian Jenkins
Just having parents that are willing to cosign a mortgage at 18 is pretty lucky, dude. I made my own money and had the means to buy a house at 18, but there's Z E R O chance that my parents would have co-signed anything.
Ryder Ortiz
Nah, it's rented to help cover mortgage payments. I live in a flat.
Yeah I am lucky in that regard. But I have worked my ass off for years.
Chase Young
Yes, the majority of men aged 18-21 seem like they never left secondary school, while at the same time you couldn't necessarily tell between a 14 and a 20 year old woman / girl and before you know they turn 25 and have seen their best years.
To no one's surprise this is exactly what would happen if you keep feeding both sexes with extra estrogen.
Ryan King
>worked my ass off for years So you started working when you were 12?
Charles Perry
JEWS
Jonathan Green
>Taking things this literally
>Feeling the need to prove yourself to random guys on Norwegian whaling forums >Not being a pathetic loser
Pick one
Owen Peterson
What’s so bad about self-help books?
Aaron Wilson
>29 >women my age are INDEPENDENT DON'T NEED NO MAN types
I'm surrounded by colleges so dating 5-8 years younger than myself is amazingly easy.
Elijah Taylor
Jewwood pushing their agenda perversion in movies and music. Chemicals in food etc
Oliver Price
>the other half is inheritence
Ian Flores
That's depressing dude
Adrian Diaz
lack of exercise and poor diet.
It's that simple. Everyone these days are skinnyfat, or just fat.
Camden Gomez
>Yeah I am lucky in that regard. But I have worked my ass off for years.
Success in life is like 90% luck, 10% work. No matter how hard you work, you're still lucky because you had some combo of:
>inherited intelligence (you have to be smart to work productively) >inherited good looks/had the right environment to make you healthy and have good looks (attractive people get more chances than ugly ones) >inherited/were raised with a killer instinct to make things happen >were in the right place at the right time >had people around you who wanted to help you succeed (related to the attractiveness thing, as well as general who your family is)
Isaiah Jackson
My parents made my brothers and I get jobs starting in middle school, we were right around 13 so his story is very likely.
Jayden Nelson
Hard times create great men Great men create easy times Easy times create weak men Weak men create hard times
Hard times are ahead boys
Jayden Richardson
>graduated high school in 2012 >brother graduated high school in 2004 >compare yearbooks >literally every guy has a more masculine face in 2004
Wtf happened?
Colton Rodriguez
I played every sport imaginable growing up and was very active. My dad never played any sports. I look much more beta than my father
Jordan Wright
It’s simple. Most of the people being born nowadays wouldn’t have survived if they were born in the 1800’s-1920. Then you truly had to be strong to survive. Since there is no biological need to be strong...we as men are getting weaker. Sad but true.
Christopher Bailey
Actually the people being born today would've grown up with the hardship and would have been entirely used to it, it's a societal and environmental problem more so than genetic.
Throw a soyboy into 1800 and sure, he's going to have a rough time but that's very different from him being born into the time period and getting acclimated to the hardships of the era.
Camden Brown
>tfw you can close a CoC #2
Levi Morris
>Wtf happened? If you want a real trip look at ones from the 80s. I graduated in 09 or 10 and saw in the halls class pictures from each year going back to the late 80s i think and those motherfuckers looked like actual men. Guys in my generation never stop looking like boys and the women still look like young girls. It goes both ways.
James Smith
Video games are worse than soy
Evan Brooks
>Boomers grow up under hard ass parents >Im gonna do better with my kids >kids grow up spoiled with no rules >kids rule the household by the time they are 10 >kids never have to work for anything >expect the world to cater to them >upset when it doesn't >can't get a real job >live with mom and dad forever >only want to play >no ambition to build their own kingdom
girls were raised like this for the last 50years. they've finally raised all their boys like girls.
Gabriel Russell
nigger gen z and millennials are not born of boomers. they come from gen x
Brody Torres
My parents are boomers. I'm almost 30 and according the the people who write about these things I'm in the millennial generation.
Jason Barnes
As long as youre not fat or some emotional ass dude its impossible to not get pussy these days
Dylan Nelson
Don't be so judgmental,
>I used to be really fucking fat (5' 10" 234 lbs) >Long, greasy hair down to the middle of my back >Gross, hippyshit tier clothing >Kissless virgin fag
Now,
>Conservative haircut >5' 10" and 165 (skinnyfat) >Still look like shit body wise, but a hell of a lot better than I used to >Planning on continuing this fitness and self improvement trend for the rest of my life >Still a kissless virgin fag
The point is, everyone is at different points in their journey. If you saw me two years ago, I was a massive faggot. Now, I'm a little faggot. And in about 2 years when I'm 20 I'm gonna be a good looking faggot who will hopefully have gotten a girl he likes. You are only seeing a freeze frame of these guys' life when you look at them. Imagine where they came from, what struggles they have gone through to get there and the potential they have to change and become something better.
Leo Price
>wrong side won WW2 AND the cold war Ftfy
Hunter Ward
GANG GANG GANG GANG GANG GANG GANG
Caleb Kelly
>Xenoestrogens Is this the game after Xenogears
Oliver Nguyen
Xenomorphs
Chase Nguyen
What country are you talking about
Kayden Cook
the effort that went into this image, fuck do something constructive with your life
Gavin Cooper
Every country really
Isaac Hill
People are unironically blaming soy?
Parker Cruz
>I've had a ton of girls telling me how frustrated they are with the lack of actual men in their age group >16-20 nigga they still boys, they still need to get a job with responsibilities and shit you don't become a man just by being born male
Aiden Rogers
>amerifats
Jack Rogers
so you disproved that the average person in generation soy is a lousy lazy faggot by using an example of a lousy lazy faggot?(ie you)
Camden Davis
my dad was in a war by the time he was 18 m8
Brody Brown
Wholeheartedly agree. Hope more anons read this.
Andrew Brown
mostly lazy parenting, giving your kids everything they want, turns boys into spoiled cunts unable to take care of themselves, and makes girls want men who can provide them with that kinds of luxury they've been raised with.
Hudson Gutierrez
>The girls from that age group seem to have realized this
girls liking older men is nothing new
Isaac Nguyen
i don't think that the competence of the average parent has increased or decreased in that short amount of time tbqh my assumption is that the majority of parents never evaluate the reasoning behind their parental guidance and that they have always leaned back on cultural norms throughout history, norms that have been proven successful through years of natural selection the difference between a couple of generations ago and today is the current movement of throwing out any sort of objectivity in social norms by considering them arbitrary and completely subjective thus the bulk of parents who never evaluate the reasoning behind their guidance have started teaching kids stupid bullshit thus raising generation soy
John Morgan
bruh
Oliver Sanders
pic related There's no set definitions for the generations but gen z is generally said to start between '95 and '00. I'm born in 1996 and my parents are boomers.