Cucked by Hot male waiter

Should have went dutch when you realized she wasn't attentive and there wasn't any attraction.

this is why you don't take a bitch to any place that doesn't have a $5 special on a first date, retard.

>for contest im a 19 year old autismo

Let this be a lesson, a chick will only want you to pay for something if she's not interested in you.

she was very attentive when we were waiting to be seated and all was going well until the chad came in and turned on the charm..

at the end of the day, i wouldve never been able to go out on a date 4 months ago.. this is an unfortunate stepping stone towards learning how to date

That chad is a malicious piece of shit. I think you should go back there with some friends and stiff him on the tip.

ikr like imagine if the roles were reversed, how shallow can women be

no hard feelings towards him... its just how it goes... this will be my motivation to keep improving and eventually ill become chad..

so im learning

Nigga if you are dropping 90 bucks on a date you gotta be getting pussy afterwards. Let this be a lesson to u

Thanks, FJM.

yea well .. this was my first date man.. honestly pissed desu but idk , all i can do is learn the lesson

>eventually ill become chad
>He thinks Chads are made, not born
Should I tell him?

sometimes I take girls to this small italian restaurant with these hot waitresses that squeeze my shoulders when taking my order das it

naw.. ive got good genetics, im just chubby and dont have good skin (acne) or hair (still tryna figure out)

>Getting cucked by a man who can't even find a proper job.

kek

You might have been overrating her attraction bruh. Women are easy to read, if you pay attention and understand the signs. If she's flipping her hair around, smiling, and leaning in to talk it's a pretty solid indication she likes you.

If she was easily that sway just consider yourself lucky. Practice makes perfect.

Just don't be flipping bills for women from now on and go on cheaper dates. Fuck dinner dates, too. Go do something active and fun that might lead to you both getting physical. Bowling is a great start because you can typically get food, drinks and there's a break in conversations to avoid awkward bullshit. And if she gets a strike go for a high five. Be goofy. Granny bowl, etc.

thankyou for the advice

>If she's flipping her hair around, smiling, and leaning in to talk it's a pretty solid indication she likes you.

d-do you think a girl would intentionally do that to lead you on?

>yep dropped 90 on the meal for the two of us..
Even in expensive places that is halfway to a hooker.

yup.. i dont want to fuck a whore tho,. im not ugly lol

>but for the tip of course
He's giving he the tip, if you know what I mean

lol ok... i mean kinda gay cause i payed.. i still gave him 15 percent which is an average tip in my country

Elaborate. Most won't. Some are just being friendly even though they have no interest.

That's why I like dates that involve a physical activity. Women who are attracted to you will regularly bump you, follow you around when you LEAD. And if you're ballsy you can just take them by the arm. If they're willingly letting you touch them, chances are you'll slay the same night.

Read "How to be a 3% man" by Corey Wayne. It's free. Teaches a lot of shit you'll spot immediately to see if she's interested.

yes

ive always been skeptical of "dating coaches" cause they seem to have a really pessimistic attitude about women but ig i need the advice so maybe ill pick one up

"dating coaching books"

>d-do you think a girl would intentionally do that to lead you on?
>yes

No. It's subconscious body language that nobody thinks about for the most part, like how guys will stand up straight when around a hottie.

>best friend hanging out with strong acquaintance
>she's complaining about being single
>he mentions me and shows her pics
>she somehow finds my name and adds me on fb before I even met her
>we meet, she seems pretty cool, similar interests and work in the same industry
>unsolicited offer to drive out to where I work to help if needed (2 hours away)
>tossing out that same body language you mentioned
>another day she's mentioning she wants to go do a few things she knows i'm interested in, figure she's dropping a hint or probably being manipulative
>after friends disperse I ask her
>smiles, gives some lame excuse
>I'm walking away and she has this worried look on her face (like the face you make when two cars are about to collide) and asks maybe another time

And I didn't bother after that and neither did she. Found out hours later she picked up a recent boyfriend.

Femanon trying to help:
Probably you were just "boring".
You're 19 and went with her to a fancy restaurant for a first date ? It can be awkward as fuck to be pretty much stuck alone with a stranger, sometimes you will kick it off but it requires chemistry/being an all around funny guy.
You should have gone for drinks, a movie, or something that would create conversation on the spot.
Maybe you just choke after seeing a hot guy and that threw your confidence off.
Probably she was checking the guy out because she was bored, and it got to your head.

It's free. Nothing to lose and ignore the other bullshit. His video's on youtube also provide a lot of clarity and there's a lot of them, too.

His personal coaching is outlandishly expensive however. So ignore unless you've got a stupid amount of expendable money.

Chad wouldn't openly flirt with your girl he would coincidentally run into her by the bathroom and get an enthusiastic blow job
What you met was a fuckboy and you're posting a thread instead of fucking because you didn't call him out and take it a little farther than he wanted to

look on the bright side mate, you got a girl to agree to go on a date with you, that's further than I've ever gotten

>movies on the first date

girls sure are dumb never do this senpaitachi

thanks for the advice, maybe youre right.. desu i mostly chalked it up to me not being attractive enough ( me: )

convo seemed good but maybe not from her end of it

Honestly it doesn't sound like there was much there. She might have been testing the waters. Remember most women are HOUNDED by other dudes and have orbiters.

You just gotta do your own thing and not focus on "the one" date multiple women, be honest if confronted and don't dote on them.

Women aren't some magical creature you have to pamper. Be fun and take them out as if you're going out with your buddies for a night.

Chicks are generally in the market for a relationship for a very short time dude, especially if they're attractive or have their shit together. Don't be too hard on yourself.

Fuck sake. You unironically just gotta bee yourself. Bee yourself but confident. For example you should’ve made fun of that waiter or gotten offended or something. Anything that would’ve had you stand up for yourself. My honest guess is that she dumped you because she thought you were dull or boring.

It's a good move IMO, you can go early, talk around to check the playground, and the pretty much easy signal of trying to do the hug is basically a 100% of kiss success with little to no effort and some guts. Specially if they're young.
Also it can be followed by eating/drinking and give some comversation.
If you are older, then yes, it's a shitty date.

100x this

u a guy or girl tho....

Going to the mall, then a movie and hang out is what I would expect from a 16yo desu

And if she's going to kiss you on your first meet up you don't even need a movie. Just to make some kind of physical contact and it will follow.

He's 19, so not that far of a stretch.
But yeah, anything physical would be great, while you are competent at it.

idk.. i mean mall would be kinda weird... im second year uni student and i can drink in my country

I didn't think I was doting on her or pampering her. It felt like good conversation. By the looks of it she went for an older beta bucks guy.

Thanks user

You're a 5, very punchable face, 6.5-7 with an outgoing personality or some money

Guy. If you took her to a nice restaurant (means you have money) and you say you’re not ugly, that must mean she thought you were boring.

What kind of clothes did you wear? Honestly asking.

well
jsut said im a 5 lol so maybe i am ugly.. i was wearing a tommy polo shirt and levi jeans with black knit converse

I fucking knew it. Learn how to dress.

I'm imagining ReviewBrah THE DATE
Sorry user, learn from the mistakes and take a more chill approach next time, and don't be a coward, if you think it's the time to escalate go for it.

>soyboy jeans
GTFO

lol i mean.. i agree that my fashion sense is shit... which i said earlier if u scroll up but those pictures are even worse

lol thanks

^^

Unironically wear the top right on that guys picture without your pants cuffed
What country are you in op you might be rated higher there

> "seemed like a nice guy"

She might as well have said you were "really sweet too." Both of those sentences are usually preceded by a 'but'.

If all a girl can say about you is that you're nice or sweet, she's just being polite, because she's not that into, or can't think of anything else to say. Not that I'm an expert on women. It depends a lot on how she said it, and the context of when she said it.

>those pictures are even worse

That’s how you wanna dress if you want girls. Trust me, what you’re wearing is considered extremely boring. But suit yourself.

you fucking idiot, you don’t get it

She played you for that meal bro. If she cared about you she would have told you not to go to such an expensive place. Even if yoh have a lot of money you should pretend to be thrifty. She should want to just spend time with you, gold diggers are not worth your time or money

>to such an expensive place
All he said was that they were at a restaurant. Anything with a waiter is an expensive place? I bet you're American.

bruh ive never paid for a date unless i actually know them and we've fucked.
2018 bro equal rights means they can pay for their own food unless its just like a coffee or some small shit under 10$

Here's the thing, OP. At 19, you'll never have an easier time in your life getting in shape. That's not the hard part. The hard part is developing an attractive personality.

>skinny fat so far away from being fit
>thinks he can get away with shit skin
>makes a dumbass excuse about hair

soy boys get out my board

>become chad
you poor thing

>take them out as if your going out with your buddiea for the night

Forgot to say no homo

Not skinny fat just at the beginning of cut, ur right on skin and hair tho

>first date with random slut
>fancy restaurant
do you have a learning disability?

Don't sweat it. There will be other girls. I went through 3-4 different first dates last year before I found the girl I'm with now.

Yeah, listen to this guy, OP. Just stay a NEET virgin forever. That will surely help.

You probably didn’t like her much either if there wasn’t a connection.

90? Are you insane? I usually pay 20-30 bucks in nice restaurants. Did she order the fucking lobster or something?

Yeah, this. First date is a coffee date. Dinners are after 3+ dates when you know she's actually into you and isn't using you for free meals.

Much to learn, you still have, OP.

>be honest if confronted and don't dote on them.
what do you mean by this? it's pretty much implied. Wouldn't that be autistic if you really had to spell it out for her?

you never never NEVER go to an expensive restaurant on the first date

1st date
sit down in a nice, busy café and ask her about what she is into, her hobbies, maybe try some of the 36 Questions
go for a walk/ go sightseeing in your town - tell her a bit about local history or weird connections she will never have thought about, go to a comfy bar, have some drinks and or more coffee/tea.

2nd date
go bouldering with her, tell her she can always ask for help if the can't get down herself. (It's really nice to be stuck in a spot and then having strong arms taking you off the wall.)
go waveboarding, or inlineskating, ice skating in winter is also very nice

3rd date
go to a farmers market together and get groceries and cook something that needs lots of cut vegetables, eat by the window and enjoy the view.
take her hands and massage them while looking out the window

Also good dates:
Visit museums and wonder about the exhibitions, art museums: search for the most beautiful and the ugliest paintings
Go to the expensive district with expensive shops. search the windows for the most outrageous pricy item. The Person that finds the most expensive item gets invited to the next coffee round. This also tests how much she values luxury

This will make you more interesting and also test her in regards of girlfriend material

To be fair you're the one who took her to an expensive restaurant, having to pay the entire bill was always going to be a possibility.

Next time do a first date at a casual bar just like everyone else.

>Chad
>Working as a waiter
No.
Just no.
Chadism includes career gains, not just gym gains
Waiting is literally the least chad job ever, including being a gay porn fluffer

rofl many slayers i know work at 711

your looks doesnt greatly effect the job you get, it only effects how people treat you

> 2.5/4.5/6/7+ and I will never know these feels because I went from a shut in tabletop gamer to a roided shut in tabletop gamer with a home gym

>(It's really nice to be stuck in a spot and then having strong arms taking you off the wall.)
>Pic related

I fucking hate my life.

"Chads" are just hot guys, dude. They work as waiters and bartenders just like hot chicks do when they're young and unqualified.

this lol

in the eyes of an incel they view chad as some weird motherfucker who lives in a top end condo who doesnt sleep eat or shit and only pulls women

3 days without fucking? Good think I'm not american because i would never make it if you had to go on 3 dates before you could get your dick wet, too much fucking work.

How's it feel to only date whores?
Whores who'll start taking side BBC when she gets bored of your tiny white cock?

It happen's OP.

I finally got to meet up with a girl who looked like picturerelated but a little chubbier.

Exactly my type.

20 minutes in and I realised we were both just going through the motions.

I'd bought the first round of drinks, she bought the second.

But every time I tried to broach the physical barrier (obviously at the appropriate moment), she'd either shift away or rapidly change the subject.

But she was such a rare type I thought I'd keep trying.

We change bars at my decision, get something to eat. Tried to go on a local ride but she said she got motion sick. I thought it was a shittest but when I pressed the matter her tonality changed and I figured that, yep, she wasn't lying.

Anyway, 40 minutes later and she tells me that she has to catch the bus by 7. I offer to get her an Uber, but she declined.

I already knew, but that really just reinforced that I'd essentially wasted $30 and an hour and a half.

Later on message her saying I had a good time and if she's in the neighbourhood again, or I'm up her way, to get in touch.

She says

>"Thanks :)"

then nothing.

Week passes, I'm autistic so I message her to see what's happening in her city.

>No response.

I then message a few days later asking if I had made her feel uncomfortable or what she felt I could improve on (thinking because the chances of us actually meeting again were slim to none it wouldn't matter if it came across as spergy).

>No response.

It's shit son. I'm going on 29. KV until 26. Only started getting my shit together at 28.

At this point I'm pretty confident that it's my body letting me down. I've been skinnyfat all my life so I tried to compensate with personality and humor. But my lack of experience and abundance mentality
>small town thinking, liking real titcows so slim but E cup and up
is clearly showing through.

And as a man, you just have to keep grinding.

What do you exactly hate about your life?
If you really despise something about yourself, you should take the courage to break out of it.

I am european, i also enjoy sex. high quality sex by men with high smv. You don't get to have a good relationship by giving into your urges on the first date. Women who give in on the first date are not respected by high smv men and are tossed away. They find themselves with guys like you. How does it feel to get the scraps? You don't put in the efford? Only whores for you

Sauce? Couldn't find anything

now this is leddit spacing

On this, I still have a smalltown idea of meeting people, but had a friend who's lived in mega cities most of his life.

He literally walks out on girls if they do anything he doesn't like. Anything. He pulls them up on it loudly once, then the second time they do it he leaves, pay's his half of the tab or if she's really been a bitch he'll just go & loudly wish her "Good luck".

He met a girl once, told her she doesn't look like her profile picture, say he's sure she's a nice person but that he doesn't "do" liars, then leave without even sitting down.

The girl looked shocked, then her head slinks down, then start quietly snuffling, then quickly grabs her bag, cancel her order and runs out the door.

I felt like running after her because I've felt that feeling as well. I know how shit it feels. But I was in the car.

I asked why he was such an asshole to her, a complete stranger who made the effort to come & meet him. Surely he could have at least had a chat with her & a quick drink?

His response?

>"user, you're a country kid you don't get it. When you have millions of strangers everyday passing you by, you feel more alone then when you're in a small town. You grind through work to live, so your time is super precious. Would you give your time to a complete stranger user? A stranger who you never knew before, and who doesn't care about you, your life, anything? When you go through literally a 100 people every other month, how long can you keep giving a shit about them if you don't immediately click? It's called compassion fatigue and dealing with little bitches who offer nothing but expect everything. There's all the choice in the world, but it's overwhelming, & it chews them up & spits them out. user, most of these women by the time you get to them are so fucking jaded that any notion of bonding it gone, you're both just two hollow people looking for a simple question: ""What's in it for me?""

Those are horrible you dumb piece of shit.

see

European here, you're a degenerate.

americans actually dress like this, in yuropoor you would be called a fag by a granny walking down the street

>first date
>restaurant
>inb4 women arent sluts
>inb4 the give a flying fuck about you

> most of these women by the time you get to them are so fucking jaded that any notion of bonding it gone, you're both just two hollow people looking for a simple question: ""What's in it for me?""

Damn, just damn.

"You are a nice sweet guy" = You seem gay or timid beta.
Hearing you are nice or sensitive guy is the worst thing she could've said. Dont be nice

if you pay 90 dollars for a girl the first time you meet her she'll see you as her little bitch beta bux
next time you invite a girl meet for cocktails only and buy her two rounds at most