/fraud/ - a visual metaphor for your pursuit of increased muscle mass through hormone supplementation edition

If somebody gets sides they don't enjoy then they're able to stop and have it cleared quicker

I'm a simpleton, that vidya amused me too much

will i lose muscle doing psmf and training 6 times a week if I am on 250mg test? should I just do keto or what

How's this routine for a cycle one?
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This video made me laugh during these tough times. thanks

How can you lose muscles when you don't have them in the first place

Man I feel like shit.

Me too, i went to the gym yesterday. Saw myself in the mirror 2x skinnier and now i only feel worse because i went to the gym and flu got worse

i am mortal like you faggots after all

Senpai, how's it like to have a clingy gf? Been trying so hard to find one but I think I'm past the age now (25) to find a proper clinger.

tb.h, it's fun in the begging but it becomes annoying at some point.

just be good looking at they want your attention, otherwise good luck with nothing and being lonely

>good luck with nothing and being lonely
my feels. why only fat chicks like me.

Maybe because your ugly? Your best option would be a fat girl with a god-tier face, make her skinny by motivation her to work out with you.

But then she will have confidence and still leave your ass

Can /fraud/ redpill me on meal timing? Anyone tried just an IIFYM approach while on roids? Like I'm totally down for not eating until post-workout, then smashing down a shitload of protein and carbs, then having protein and whatever else fits the macros for the rest of the night. That's what I did natty, just wondering if the whole "MEAT UND RICE EVERY 3 HOURS" thing is still a meme when anabolics are in the mix

What MasT said but make her lose weight so fast that she gets loose skin and her self-confidence goes even lower. Then she'll be yours forever

eat whatever you want, it's your body, not mine, i don't care

Where i can find a roided var-gf that will love me even when im bulking?

It sucks desu. Won't ever leave you alone. Even if you try to break up with her she won't stop calling/texting/Snapchat etc even if you block her. Only nice thing about it is you can do whatever the fuck you want to do and she'll still be there.

Find a gf who loves you while you're bulking and feed her roids and var

everybody is different. i have a sissy stomach and protein gives me massive diarrhea so i only eat once per day, after work.

Maybe swap your protein source? It's ironic but I actually found that milk settles best in my stomach, and eggs settle worst.

it's not actually just whey protein, I have not been able to pin point out things that wreak havoc. So far:

>coffee
>whey powder
>overly greesy food

i went a vegan for a week and was fine as a baby but oh boy, that was a miserable week.

but i think you're onto something here.

Yes but know that changing a woman only works if she loves you to death and is scared that you will leave you if she don't change herself, which requires some kind of treatments and techniques

it's not that easy because they will see everything as an insult. Or when you're shit-tier she will say just accept me who I am

If i woman loves you she will basically do everything for you, including using steroids

Does everyone's ex's always come crawling back or is it just mine?

The only meal timings that are important are just out of bed, before and after training. Especially after training

Basically it's just to get all the kcal in you need that day.

What a retarded question

Nobody things you're cool, just stop it

Something else that might help is blending your vegetables and drinking them instead of eating them. Should be an easy way to get fiber and nutrients in without giving you gas and/or bloating and/or diarrhea. Also try having a shot of apple cider vinegar before eating, it stimulates stomach acid and helps break down protein/other food
Love happens when that person gives you something or does something that nobody else can. My ex gf loved me because I could piss her off like nobody else could, my current gf loves me because my body is "made of marble" (her words) and because I play WoW with her. I love her because she eats candy and plays WoW all day (streamer so earns money doing it) but is still skinny and hyperactive as fuck. It'll probably sound weird but its like I'm her dad and she's my daughter, except the relationship turned incestuous after her mother passed away and now we only have each other and are jaded by the real world.

And in terms of just out of bed, before training, and after training, those are also the most important times to get carbs in right?

>when that person gives you something or does something that nobody else can
How ignorant are you, kek. It's just because she doesn't know any better at that moment. She just didn't meet that guy yet that has a bigger dick and a better face than you. Ignorance is bliss. Better is always possible.

If you really think that, then damn, you're fucking delusional. But she could also say that to you, because she's doesn't want to hurt you feelings. kek

Yes and proteins. Bulking or cutting btw

So how do you hide the rest of the world from your gf baka

I leave the pillow in bed

I don't. I know there are better looking men than me. I am not insecure to admit that or that I am the only one that can offer her something. It's just that she doesn't know better at that moment.

I know she get stared at, i know other men try to hit on her. It's inevitable, you want to spy on her 24/7, which will make you even look more like a insecure beta cuck.

If it happens it happens. I know i get another woman if i want to. Never depend on someone

it's not like taking var is requirement, it's easier to get along if you're both in the same boat (taking sterons) and you know that test bloat, deca dick, acne, tren sweats or stuff like that is temporary and it's just a part of the game

lmao, that is the reason. So it's more acceptable to her. Because when you get in a fight and she blames you being different because steroids, you can blame it also on her.

holy shit, that's almost as worse as asking her permission whether you use steroids or not

So I have never pinned my glutes because I thought it was awkward to reach while laying down but after a year of this shit I noticed that I could probably pin it quite easy while standing. Does anyone actually pin while laying on their side or am I just a fucking idiot?

I think i said it wrong. What i mean is that im an ugly roid monkey and im repulsvie for a normal natty girl but roided out girl will probably find me somewhat attractive due to this phenotype matching sort of thing.

Is it important to change injection sites? I normally just do right quad and left quad but since pinning every day I'm wondering if there's any benefit to changing sites

I started pinning standing up but switched to lying down. I lay down on my stomach and twist around though

I should really start pinning delts and quads again but DG is too comfy for me. Quads would still occasionally cause pip even though I've pinned them more times than I can count. My mobility is too shitty to actually pin delts comfortably too. Also wondering if pinning delts would make them bigger just from sheer volume of oil. I heard Alb talk about pinning them postworkout for that reason iirc

You should rotate at least three sites if you're pinning ED to reduce scar tissue buildup from what I've heard. DG, quads, delts, VG are all pretty standard.

I've heard people say they pin tris, bis, and lats but that seems scary to me

If you think it works that way, then go ahead. If you're truly ugly, then sorry it won't work

maybe if you cant compensate with a 9 inch dick and something else, who knows

extremely important

I don't know if it works like that, i can only hope it does. Never had a gf so i don't know.

I try to have one more injection spot in my roration than days pinned per week

Women are monsters I doubt it would work
But I like your theory it might for a ladyboy gf

Everything is determined by looks, face especially. The hard cold truth is that when you're ugly nobody gives a shit about your existence. That's why i advocate to get plastic surgery and don't waste your money on steroids when you goal is getting woman

You can overcome looks with money

Money is just needed to achieve that what you want to achieve. It's not a substitute

How does it exactly overcome looks

I blame Persian girl for my sickness. The only times I ever leave the house is for work, food and gym. Because I went out for social reasons this is some sort of divine punishment. It's God's will that I always be with Rem and Chocola. I haven't sleep at all in the past 36 hours because of this sore throat and this fever.

How much would it cost to pay a hooker to dress up and act like Rem to take care me whilst I'm sick? Do I have to provide the cosplay? I really should buy the light novels for Re:Zero.

Whats a good lean bulk cycle? Finally got to 8% bodyfat and never want to lose the abs again. Would 250 test and 500 tren yield good results on a bulk? Maybe throw some kind of oral like Superdrol or Dbol in at the start? I've done 2 bulking cycles of 500 test and one cutting cycle of 250 test 250 tren.

Why is it extremely important aside from what said? I will start pinning other places but just curious if there's any big significant reason other than scar tissue

What can you achieve with looks that you can't with money?

I fuck you for free and then fuck you up for free as well

what you think about that

You mean what is a good clean/lean diet.

If you bulk up you will get some fat, no matter how much gear you take. You can compensate with cardio and clean diet, but you will always gain fat.

The only things i can think of that prevent that are slin + gh and tren combo, but i assume you're too poor for that

I have read some stories about gear getting encapsulated if you inject a spot too often. Not sure if true

also scar tissue of course.

True love. Somebody that really cares and loves you for who you are.

You can have all the money in the world, but they will just then love you for the money.

Are you willing to dress up like Rem and call me Subaru or dress up like Chocola and call me goshujin-sama?

That's totally fine with me. If I buy the act then I'm happy

So sticking to a small caloric surplus is what you're saying? My diet is pretty clean. Whey, oat cereal, peanut butter, chicken, potatos, and eggs are all I eat.

If that makes you horny why not. Why not make a big man vs twink gay porn video why we at it

If that's the only thing you got to offer, then why not.

Clean food, no empty kcal. Complex carbs, Yes those look good

No just stick to the +500kcal. I never count kcal but i just estimate how much protons, carbs and fats are with each meal

you can add some cardio if think you gain fat too rapidly

abs are worthless, you need mass, bellies. Abs are easy to get, there is no fun in that

Now just remove the parts where you're not taking care of me in an earnest fashion and put in parts where you are taking care of me in an earnest fashion, we have a deal.

What's your cup size and what colour garters do you want, white or black?

Gotcha. Thanks for the advice man. I just gotta figure out how to dose my compounds for the best results now.

My fucking buttplug fell out while I was squatting. It rolled down the leg of my sweatpants and landed on floor. I immediately stuck it in my hoodie pocket and went to the bathroom.
I don't know if anyone saw, I lifted at midnight.

I don't think I can ever go back.

Your small hands can just hold them i think

I don't know which cup size that is

It's all determined by food. Fat, bloat, shreds, fullness

When i started my first cycle(pic related) i was also shredded and was very scared to lose the shreds. Because you know how hard you worked to achieve them, but i had no legs at that time and no traps, no forearms. Proportions are way more important that shreds. Work on that first.

Lower back pump while fuckin the pillow
Fuck

What are Metandienone pills?

dbol

because you fuck it the wrong way

how hard is to use google you fucking lazy fag?

Will I keep LGD gains after I stop if I'm on TRT. Have put on 6kg since starting both and have achieved bloatlord status.
Thnx

>implying 1g of substance equals 1ml volume
>what is density
its not water my dude, think again

Clarification: when I stop LGD

How do you fuck a pillow/ what is the right way to fuck a pillow?

Should I take a SERM or AI for blocking the effects of xenoestrogens being in everything?

Yes

Nah that would be silly.

y

OK. So I'm on 70mg of test per week. I know that's low but it's just TRT androgel (100mg of gel a day, times seven, times 10% absorption rate)

How do I dose an AI or SERM to that dosage?

>Arimidex (Anastrozole) Dosage on cycle: dosing is user dependent and you should get blood work to dial in your dose, but MOST users will find .5 mg of Arimidex E3D or E3.5D to be a good starting dose for 500-600 mg Testosterone (just for a reference). Some may need more frequent (EOD) dosing or some may even need less than E3.5D; this is really something that varies person-to-person too much and without blood work there is no way to know for sure what dosage you need.

>Aromasin (Exemestane) Dosage on cycle: dosing is user dependent and you should get blood work to dial in your dose, but MOST users will find 12.5 mg of Aromasin E3D or E3.5D to be a good starting dose for 500-600 mg Testosterone (just for a reference). Some may need more frequent (EOD) dosing or some may even need less than E3.5D; this is really something that varies person-to-person too much.

>Nolvadex (Tamoxifen) Dosage on cycle: 20-40mg ED

>Raloxifene (Evista) Dosage on cycle: 60mg-120mg ED

Which is best? Do I just take a quarter of that dose of AI or SERMs or something?

SERM's act as as antagonists in breast tissue, but also as agonists elsewhere (like bones). So it would be like be lowering the amount of estrogen in some parts of your body but increasing the amount of estrogen in others.

AI's will lower your own natural production of estrogen, but won't do anything about exogenous estrogens (like dietary xenoestrogens).

>tfw feeling fat and dyel
>look at the monthly /r/steroids progress pics
feel less fat and dyel

You shouldn't need an AI/SERM at that dose. Get bloodwork after 4-6 weeks and if it shows very high estrogen levels, or you have SERIOUS symptoms of high e2, start with a low dose of AI twice a week.

Get blood testing and see if your estrogen is in range or not. I can almost guarantee you're fine. Most people don't even take AI at 250mg test E a week let alone for some androgel bs.

If you're on trt and you're fat as fuck you might have high estrogen but why are you asking a mongolian basket weaving forum and not your doctor?

I know of nolvadex that it decreases the total free floating estrogen in the body as well as the binding rate.

>decreases the total free floating estrogen
One of the metabolites can act as an AI, so yes, it will decrease endogenous estrogens but do nothing about exogenous ones.

>as well as the binding rate
It's a competitive receptor modulator, that's part of how they work.

Holy fuck just had a look at that sub and it's hilariously pathetic. As a natty, I now have greater respect for roiders that actually look decent. Nothing can fix shit-tier genetics.

Just switched to liquid clen from tablets but it feels nowhere near as strong as I remember. Do I need to up the dose or is liquid clen just BS?

How is it different from this place?

Exogenous ones from dietary sources still need to be processed or dont they? They still go through this whole chain in your body that the AI disrupts doesnt it? Obviously not a bio chem major or anything here but nolvadex at least with me seemed to help to give me better male hair growth. But it doesnt suppress estrogen derived from plastics, pillow casings and estrogenic compounds in other chemicals either then? Could you explain lol?

Why do you guys use this shit when it makes you look ridiculous?

They can block the effect of them but I doubt it would be worth the sides.

SERMS, from what I have read, with the antagonists, and the different generations, seem to be in line with your reasoning. The effects of these things dont seem to be really well for our purposes. But...AI are. Though I have read upon the really long term effects and by god they are horrible. Liver toxicity...which eventually accumulates to pretty severe side effects after a year. So right now I am doing cycles with it to try to stave it off. Nolvadex seems to be the least harmful of them all as it also doesnt mess with the cholesterol.

and it also detoxifies the liver somewhat and makes it more resilient against future estrogenic attacks from what I read about it?

they actually post their own pictures

Currently on trt on my second week of 200mg cyp every other week and my estrogen is probably through the roof since my nipple are sensitive and swollen.
My doc won't prescribe AI.

I'm gonna split my dose next time to try to keep estrogen down.
Is it worth it to do 50mg/E3.5D or is 100mg/wk will result in the same since the dose is so low?

Kill your doctor, take his place and put yourself on a proper protocol. Holy fuck what garbage.

50mg e3.5d is your best option, you might not even need an AI.

touché

and how do other people react to it? Like over here, or?

they are encouraging, i don't think they have a dedicated bully
be the bully they need

Ok thanks I'll try this before hopping off.
Feeling good 5-6 days out of 14 is just awful.

People only encourage you if you look like shit, because you're not a threat to them. Yo bro you going to make it. we elle genne meke it breh, zyzz brehh

If you look better you don't hear anything or receive hate